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SuezanneC Baskerville

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04-02-2005 07:01

Regarding the new handles that allow motion constrained to one plane: what is the name to call these handles? I am getting tired of typing "Constrain to Plane Handles", it is making me think of "The Rain In Spain Stays Mainly In The Plains" and calling them Constraint Handles sounds kinda kinky to me, and callling them Plane Handles sounds like one is referring to the plain old handles that i used to call arrowheads?

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Liberty Tesla

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04-02-2005 10:42

How about 2D handles?

(Which unfortunately, kinda sounds like Malibu Barbie's bra size...)

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04-02-2005 12:18

From: SuezanneC Baskerville

Regarding the new handles that allow motion constrained to one plane: what is the name to call these handles? I am getting tired of typing "Constrain to Plane Handles", it is making me think of "The Rain In Spain Stays Mainly In The Plains" and calling them Constraint Handles sounds kinda kinky to me, and callling them Plane Handles sounds like one is referring to the plain old handles that i used to call arrowheads?

How about CTP Handles?

Err - well it's just a suggestion. C2P?

Um. Ok, I dunno what to really call them, but I agree that it's a pain to type "Constrain to Plane" and I worry that just typing "little arrows" won't be very clear. LOL.

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04-02-2005 14:28

Anti-love handles.

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04-02-2005 21:30

"the very little triangles"

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04-03-2005 22:43

"gizmos" is what the 3D modeller Maya calls them. Of course, "plane constraint handles" works too, but "axis transform handles" ("transform" being the broad classification for translation--position, rotation, and scaling) might be a better term and is more descriptive, and cooler-sounding, than "gizmos".

Jeffrey Gomez

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04-03-2005 22:48

X arrow, Y arrow, Z arrow. Red arrow, green arrow, blue arrow.

Sorry, I just... had to.

"Constrained axes" also works.

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SuezanneC Baskerville

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The arrows on the "two colored triangle things" are black.

04-04-2005 03:33

Jeffrey, I think that Red, Blue, and Green arrows would be misleading, because the arrows on the contrain to plain handles are black. Each ctp handle has a set of two black arrows perpendicular to one another, and each of them has two different colors of triangles making up the background. There are some axis displays with conical arrowhead indicators , but those are not the ones I am talking about., and I suspect that calling things that are not Red, Blue, and Green arrows by those terms when there are things that are Red Blue and Green arrows nearby, and which are already called by those names by some, might possibly be a bit confusing.

Since there are two black arrows on each, terms such as Two Black Arrows on A Green and Blue Background handle, Two Black Arrows on Blue and Red Background Handle, and "The one in back that you often can't see or is obscured by the blue arrowhead" might be understandable.

I have heard someone called them "the little triangle thingies" which seems ok.

I like "love handles" which makes no sense but would be fun to say but there is already a love handle slider in the appearance editor.

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Jeffrey Gomez

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04-04-2005 07:05

From: SuezanneC Baskerville

Jeffrey, I think that Red, Blue, and Green arrows would be misleading, because the arrows on the contrain to plain handles are black.

Don't worry about it. I was being sarcastic with that suggestion.

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04-04-2005 10:21

I call the old ones axial constraint handles and the new ones planar constraint handles. That's simple enough I think.

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04-04-2005 10:32

From: SuezanneC Baskerville

... and calling them Constraint Handles sounds kinda kinky to me...

You say that like it's a bad thing...

I suppose I should probably get in-world sometime and actually see these new features.

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04-04-2005 11:14

From: Jeffrey Gomez

Don't worry about it. I was being sarcastic with that suggestion.

NO, WE WILL HAVE NO TOMFOOLERY IN THIS THREAD. WE WILL DISCUSS THIS MATTER 100% LITERALLY>

(also, I dont think they got it Jeff

literary refferences of that caliber often get lost on these forums

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Seth Kanahoe

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04-04-2005 11:29

We could call them what Chose Few calls them, which is what everybody in real life already calls them....

DoteDote Edison

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04-04-2005 18:12

uni-directional arrows/handle
bi-directional arrows/handle

single-axis arrow
dual-axis handle

X arrow, Y arrow, Z-arrow
X/Y arrow, X/Z arrow, Y/Z arrow

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04-04-2005 22:38

From: Seth Kanahoe

We could call them what Chose Few calls them, which is what everybody in real life already calls them....

Please, dont make this more simple than it needs to be. If we cant have a fourteen word long descriptor for these things, than all is lost.

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04-04-2005 23:41

From: Spider Mandala

Please, dont make this more simple than it needs to be. If we cant have a fourteen word long descriptor for these things, than all is lost.

You don't understand. I'm proposing we call them "What Chosen Few calls them, which is what everybody in real life already calls them."

That's 15 words.

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04-05-2005 13:27

From: Seth Kanahoe

You don't understand. I'm proposing we call them "What Chosen Few calls them, which is what everybody in real life already calls them."

That's 15 words.

Ah excellent thats by far the most unnescessarily complcated... good show.

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Damanios Thetan

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04-05-2005 17:07

As in the issues database:

ID: 154 PREVIEW GRID
Summary: Objects do not snap to grid
Priority: P2
Status: Closed

Description:
Previous version had the object snapping to a grid while moving if the Tools->Snap was set. It is not exhibiting this behavior in 1.6

Workaround: snap works with the new prim dragging tabs. (little triangular things seen near the selected prim)

So that's what they're called?

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04-05-2005 17:49

Only by that person who entered the bug. Better names have already been suggested. I like mine best though: axis transform handles.

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04-05-2005 21:27

From: Spider Mandala

Please, dont make this more simple than it needs to be.

Hah! Great signature line.

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04-05-2005 21:45

From: Spider Mandala

Please, dont make this more simple than it needs to be.

Hah! Great signature line.

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Zindorf Yossarian

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04-12-2005 13:53

How about "planar contraining two-dimensional object translation handles" (P.C.T.D.O.T.H.)?
Or just planar handles.

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Question: The new Constrain to Plane handles
SuezanneC Baskerville Forums Rock! Join date: 22 Dec 2003 Posts: 14,229	04-02-2005 07:01 Regarding the new handles that allow motion constrained to one plane: what is the name to call these handles? I am getting tired of typing "Constrain to Plane Handles", it is making me think of "The Rain In Spain Stays Mainly In The Plains" and calling them Constraint Handles sounds kinda kinky to me, and callling them Plane Handles sounds like one is referring to the plain old handles that i used to call arrowheads? _____________________ - So long to these forums, the vBulletin forums that used to be at forums.secondlife.com. I will miss them. I can be found on the web by searching for "SuezanneC Baskerville", or go to http://www.google.com/profiles/suezanne - http://lindenlab.tribe.net/ created on 11/19/03. Members: Ben, Catherine, Colin, Cory, Dan, Doug, Jim, Philip, Phoenix, Richard, Robin, and Ryan -
Liberty Tesla Perpetual Newbie Join date: 1 Sep 2003 Posts: 173	04-02-2005 10:42 How about 2D handles? (Which unfortunately, kinda sounds like Malibu Barbie's bra size...)
Nikki Seraph Registered User Join date: 6 Jan 2005 Posts: 238	04-02-2005 12:18 From: SuezanneC Baskerville Regarding the new handles that allow motion constrained to one plane: what is the name to call these handles? I am getting tired of typing "Constrain to Plane Handles", it is making me think of "The Rain In Spain Stays Mainly In The Plains" and calling them Constraint Handles sounds kinda kinky to me, and callling them Plane Handles sounds like one is referring to the plain old handles that i used to call arrowheads? How about CTP Handles? Err - well it's just a suggestion. C2P? Um. Ok, I dunno what to really call them, but I agree that it's a pain to type "Constrain to Plane" and I worry that just typing "little arrows" won't be very clear. LOL. _____________________ "The supreme happiness in life is the conviction that we are loved — loved for ourselves, or rather, loved in spite of ourselves." -Victor Hugo eNVe Designs: Puea \| Slootsville On the Web: SLexchange \| SLboutique
Lordfly Digeridoo Prim Orchestrator Join date: 21 Jul 2003 Posts: 3,628	04-02-2005 14:28 Anti-love handles. _____________________ ---- http://www.lordfly.com/ http://www.twitter.com/lordfly http://www.plurk.com/lordfly
Damanios Thetan looking in Join date: 6 Mar 2004 Posts: 992	04-02-2005 21:30 "the very little triangles"
Eep Quirk Absolutely Relative Join date: 15 Dec 2004 Posts: 1,211	04-03-2005 22:43 "gizmos" is what the 3D modeller Maya calls them. Of course, "plane constraint handles" works too, but "axis transform handles" ("transform" being the broad classification for translation--position, rotation, and scaling) might be a better term and is more descriptive, and cooler-sounding, than "gizmos".
Jeffrey Gomez Cubed™ Join date: 11 Jun 2004 Posts: 3,522	04-03-2005 22:48 X arrow, Y arrow, Z arrow. Red arrow, green arrow, blue arrow. Sorry, I just... had to. "Constrained axes" also works. _____________________ ---
SuezanneC Baskerville Forums Rock! Join date: 22 Dec 2003 Posts: 14,229	The arrows on the "two colored triangle things" are black. 04-04-2005 03:33 Jeffrey, I think that Red, Blue, and Green arrows would be misleading, because the arrows on the contrain to plain handles are black. Each ctp handle has a set of two black arrows perpendicular to one another, and each of them has two different colors of triangles making up the background. There are some axis displays with conical arrowhead indicators , but those are not the ones I am talking about., and I suspect that calling things that are not Red, Blue, and Green arrows by those terms when there are things that are Red Blue and Green arrows nearby, and which are already called by those names by some, might possibly be a bit confusing. Since there are two black arrows on each, terms such as Two Black Arrows on A Green and Blue Background handle, Two Black Arrows on Blue and Red Background Handle, and "The one in back that you often can't see or is obscured by the blue arrowhead" might be understandable. I have heard someone called them "the little triangle thingies" which seems ok. I like "love handles" which makes no sense but would be fun to say but there is already a love handle slider in the appearance editor. _____________________ - So long to these forums, the vBulletin forums that used to be at forums.secondlife.com. I will miss them. I can be found on the web by searching for "SuezanneC Baskerville", or go to http://www.google.com/profiles/suezanne - http://lindenlab.tribe.net/ created on 11/19/03. Members: Ben, Catherine, Colin, Cory, Dan, Doug, Jim, Philip, Phoenix, Richard, Robin, and Ryan -
Jeffrey Gomez Cubed™ Join date: 11 Jun 2004 Posts: 3,522	04-04-2005 07:05 From: SuezanneC Baskerville Jeffrey, I think that Red, Blue, and Green arrows would be misleading, because the arrows on the contrain to plain handles are black. Don't worry about it. I was being sarcastic with that suggestion. _____________________ ---
Chosen Few Alpha Channel Slave Join date: 16 Jan 2004 Posts: 7,496	04-04-2005 10:21 I call the old ones axial constraint handles and the new ones planar constraint handles. That's simple enough I think. _____________________ . Land now available for rent in Indigo. Low rates. Quiet, low-lag mainland sim with good neighbors. IM me in-world if you're interested.
Cross Lament Loose-brained Vixen Join date: 20 Mar 2004 Posts: 1,115	04-04-2005 10:32 From: SuezanneC Baskerville ... and calling them Constraint Handles sounds kinda kinky to me... You say that like it's a bad thing... I suppose I should probably get in-world sometime and actually see these new features. _____________________ - Making everyone's day just a little more surreal - Teeple Linden: "OK, where did the tentacled thing go while I was playing with my face?"
Spider Mandala Photshop Ninja Join date: 29 Aug 2003 Posts: 194	04-04-2005 11:14 From: Jeffrey Gomez Don't worry about it. I was being sarcastic with that suggestion. NO, WE WILL HAVE NO TOMFOOLERY IN THIS THREAD. WE WILL DISCUSS THIS MATTER 100% LITERALLY> (also, I dont think they got it Jeff literary refferences of that caliber often get lost on these forums ) _____________________ "There's an old saying in Tennessee, I know it's in Texas, probably in Tennessee, that says, fool me once... shame on... shame on you. You fool me, you can't get fooled again." -George W. Bush East Literature Magnet School, Nashville, Tennessee, Sep. 17, 2002
Seth Kanahoe political fugue artist Join date: 30 Jan 2005 Posts: 1,220	04-04-2005 11:29 We could call them what Chose Few calls them, which is what everybody in real life already calls them....
DoteDote Edison Thinks Too Much Join date: 6 Jun 2004 Posts: 790	04-04-2005 18:12 uni-directional arrows/handle bi-directional arrows/handle single-axis arrow dual-axis handle X arrow, Y arrow, Z-arrow X/Y arrow, X/Z arrow, Y/Z arrow
Spider Mandala Photshop Ninja Join date: 29 Aug 2003 Posts: 194	04-04-2005 22:38 From: Seth Kanahoe We could call them what Chose Few calls them, which is what everybody in real life already calls them.... Please, dont make this more simple than it needs to be. If we cant have a fourteen word long descriptor for these things, than all is lost. _____________________ "There's an old saying in Tennessee, I know it's in Texas, probably in Tennessee, that says, fool me once... shame on... shame on you. You fool me, you can't get fooled again." -George W. Bush East Literature Magnet School, Nashville, Tennessee, Sep. 17, 2002
Seth Kanahoe political fugue artist Join date: 30 Jan 2005 Posts: 1,220	04-04-2005 23:41 From: Spider Mandala Please, dont make this more simple than it needs to be. If we cant have a fourteen word long descriptor for these things, than all is lost. You don't understand. I'm proposing we call them "What Chosen Few calls them, which is what everybody in real life already calls them." That's 15 words.
Spider Mandala Photshop Ninja Join date: 29 Aug 2003 Posts: 194	04-05-2005 13:27 From: Seth Kanahoe You don't understand. I'm proposing we call them "What Chosen Few calls them, which is what everybody in real life already calls them." That's 15 words. Ah excellent thats by far the most unnescessarily complcated... good show. _____________________ "There's an old saying in Tennessee, I know it's in Texas, probably in Tennessee, that says, fool me once... shame on... shame on you. You fool me, you can't get fooled again." -George W. Bush East Literature Magnet School, Nashville, Tennessee, Sep. 17, 2002
Damanios Thetan looking in Join date: 6 Mar 2004 Posts: 992	04-05-2005 17:07 As in the issues database: ID: 154 PREVIEW GRID Summary: Objects do not snap to grid Priority: P2 Status: Closed Description: Previous version had the object snapping to a grid while moving if the Tools->Snap was set. It is not exhibiting this behavior in 1.6 Workaround: snap works with the new prim dragging tabs. (little triangular things seen near the selected prim) So that's what they're called? _____________________
Eep Quirk Absolutely Relative Join date: 15 Dec 2004 Posts: 1,211	04-05-2005 17:49 Only by that person who entered the bug. Better names have already been suggested. I like mine best though: axis transform handles.
SuezanneC Baskerville Forums Rock! Join date: 22 Dec 2003 Posts: 14,229	04-05-2005 21:27 From: Spider Mandala Please, dont make this more simple than it needs to be. Hah! Great signature line. _____________________ - So long to these forums, the vBulletin forums that used to be at forums.secondlife.com. I will miss them. I can be found on the web by searching for "SuezanneC Baskerville", or go to http://www.google.com/profiles/suezanne - http://lindenlab.tribe.net/ created on 11/19/03. Members: Ben, Catherine, Colin, Cory, Dan, Doug, Jim, Philip, Phoenix, Richard, Robin, and Ryan -
SuezanneC Baskerville Forums Rock! Join date: 22 Dec 2003 Posts: 14,229	04-05-2005 21:45 From: Spider Mandala Please, dont make this more simple than it needs to be. Hah! Great signature line. _____________________ - So long to these forums, the vBulletin forums that used to be at forums.secondlife.com. I will miss them. I can be found on the web by searching for "SuezanneC Baskerville", or go to http://www.google.com/profiles/suezanne - http://lindenlab.tribe.net/ created on 11/19/03. Members: Ben, Catherine, Colin, Cory, Dan, Doug, Jim, Philip, Phoenix, Richard, Robin, and Ryan -
Zindorf Yossarian Master of Disaster Join date: 9 Mar 2004 Posts: 160	04-12-2005 13:53 How about "planar contraining two-dimensional object translation handles" (P.C.T.D.O.T.H.)? Or just planar handles. _____________________ Badass Ninja Penguin: Killing stuff it doesn't like since sometime in May 2004.

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