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Thunder Starbrook
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Join date: 25 Dec 2006
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12-25-2006 11:05
Hi all, I'm in the middle of making a small insect but am stuck on a certain shape, i think the correct name is a 'proboscis', i've seen this shape in sl but am at a loss as to how its made.
Moving on i've deceided a cone will do the trick but am now unable to make one small enough, i'm after somthing maybe 0.005 x 0.005 x 0.015, the last being length.
Does anyone have any idea's on how i may be able to make either the first shape at this size or reduce a regular cone down to this size?
I've read everything i can find, tried various settings over and over again, visted dozens of sandpits asking advice with no luck.. Can anyone help me?
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nand Nerd
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12-25-2006 12:38
not sure what shape you need in the first instance but for a small cone the following works: rez a sphere and dimple it from 0.95 to 1.0 (0.95 is max value, you could use less if you wish and this affects the length of the cone). then switch the Building Block Type to Cylinder and you should have a cylinder with a small height, increase the taper X & Y to 1.0 to give you a small cone (cylinder with pointed top) which you can resize to very small, if you need to go smaller you could perhaps texture it with an alpha band around the bottom half of the cone.
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Chosen Few
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12-25-2006 13:31
Nand's dimple suggestion is a good trick, useful for making prims smaller, but unfortunately it affects just height, not length or width. What I'd recommend, Thunder, is that you use a tube instead of a cylinder. Give it a profile cut, and you'll be able to remove the outside, leaving just the inside showing. That will allow you to make a cylindrical shape, significantly smaller than the 1cm across. Depending on where you start and end the cut, you can end up with a cone, a straight cylinder, an hourglass, or anything in between.
For even greater flexibility, play around with the different hollowing options. For what you're trying to do, you'll probably find that giving it a round hollow will look much more natural than the straight cone shape you're going for. The round hollow will allow it to curve from the base to the apex.
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Edward Howton
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Join date: 3 Jul 2006
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12-25-2006 21:47
I personally find that it's easier to dimple a sphere to B0.49 and E0.51. That way it's smaller and also occupies the center of the prim instead of one of the sides (which makes it MUCH easier to place). The drawback is that if you're intending to taper it to a point, the middle won't work much.
Experiment with different B and E values for the dimples and other transformations on the result. Torture your prims, they can take it. Plus it's great stress-relief!
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Ishtara Rothschild
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Join date: 21 Apr 2006
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12-26-2006 00:51
From: nand Nerd not sure what shape you need in the first instance but for a small cone the following works: rez a sphere and dimple it from 0.95 to 1.0 (0.95 is max value, you could use less if you wish and this affects the length of the cone). then switch the Building Block Type to Cylinder and you should have a cylinder with a small height, increase the taper X & Y to 1.0 to give you a small cone (cylinder with pointed top) which you can resize to very small, if you need to go smaller you could perhaps texture it with an alpha band around the bottom half of the cone. Didn't know that trick yet  I experimented a bit and managed (by coincidence) to create a four-leaved clover with a single prim: I started with a sphere with your suggested dimple values of 0.95 / 1.00, set Twist Begin / End to 360 / -360 and reduced the X size to 0.010. Single leaves can be cut off using path cut; with a path cut of 0.5 / 1 it could be used as a pair of mouse or bear ears. Sorry for the off topic post 
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Thunder Starbrook
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Join date: 25 Dec 2006
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Yay!
12-26-2006 10:26
Thanks for everyone's help, i was unable to get the original shape i wanted (a bee sting kinda thing) but i do have a cone thats small enough to finish the tail on my dragonfly, ty again! 
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Sebastian Glitterbuck
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Join date: 14 Feb 2005
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12-26-2006 10:57
From: Thunder Starbrook Thanks for everyone's help, i was unable to get the original shape i wanted (a bee sting kinda thing) but i do have a cone thats small enough to finish the tail on my dragonfly, ty again!  If its a dragonfly, keep in mind they dont have a proboscis in RL, they have two large jaws that fit together on the front of their face. Here is frontal closeup: http://www.petzon.se/dragonfly/img/photos/IMG0056.jpgAlthough in the angle of this pic the jaws are obscured by the large upper lip you can see them on each side of the lip as a crescent shape. Hope this helps your project.
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