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Troy Vogel
Marginal Prof. of ZOMG!
Join date: 16 Aug 2004
Posts: 478
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03-08-2006 10:35
Background: When I build an object and set it for sale, the options allows me to unselect ONLY one of the three permissions:
Modify Copy Resell/Give Away
So as long as I have played this game, I have settled on setting things to Modify/Resell Perms on.
I just noticed that several items in my inventory that I've bought from various vendors in SL are "Resell/Give Away" ONLY. How did they accomplish this? Or is this the result of a bug induced by the flurry of updates we've had?
Troy
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Troy Vogel
Marginal Prof. of ZOMG!
Join date: 16 Aug 2004
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03-08-2006 10:37
Blah. nevermind. Yes they can do that. I guess what I want is Modify/No Transfer and THAT is not doable. Am I asking for too much?  Troy
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Dianne Mechanique
Back from the Dead
Join date: 28 Mar 2005
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03-08-2006 11:05
From: Troy Vogel Blah. nevermind. Yes they can do that. I guess what I want is Modify/No Transfer and THAT is not doable. Am I asking for too much?  Troy I don't understand why we aren't allowed to pick what we want. More importantly, in about two weeks I will have been playing for one full year, yet the borked permissions system, which is the very heart of the game itself (making stuff being what it's all about), is *unchanged* from that time. This, even though the very first week I started, I heard about how "bad the permissions were" and how they *must* be changed soon. A year!  I mean just think of all the versions and all the things they have changed in a year, yet not done one single thing to fix permissions. 
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Troy Vogel
Marginal Prof. of ZOMG!
Join date: 16 Aug 2004
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03-08-2006 11:18
I agree.
However, I feel like I need to explain why I ask for the "modify/no resell" combination.
Mainly I make furniture and paintings(my own work from RL) in SL. I don't mind bringing my work in SL, and I make some reproductions of RL furniture along with some of my own designs.
Most of the stuff I make REALLY should not be resold. However having said that, I don't mind it being transferred for free. Nothing wrong with someone giving away an item to a friend etc.
But Furniture being furniture, I am guessing many people will want to play around with the upholstery or if it's a painting, they will want to resize it, perhaps change the frame etc. Because of this reason, most of everything I make and sell MUST have Modify permissions otherwise they're kind of useless for the buyer.
I don't like copy permission because it creates a lot of gray area for me and my customers. I am not about to argue that one of pieces is set at a high price because you can copy it. That makes the price too high for people who just want one copy. So all my items are set to no-copy because I want people to buy as many as they need. And because I do not have to worry about multiple copies being resold etc, I can lower my prices to a level where even one day old users can buy my furniture without blowing their budget.
So, this is why I have used Modify/Resell combination. But in an ideal world what I want is Modify/Give Away.
Does this make sense? I wanted to rephrase what I said in the earlier post because I felt I did not provide enough information.
Troy Vogel.
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Argent Stonecutter
Emergency Mustelid
Join date: 20 Sep 2005
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03-08-2006 11:22
From: Troy Vogel I guess what I want is Modify/No Transfer and THAT is not doable. Err, what? How do you figure "mod/no-trans" isn't possible? The only combination that's not possible is no-trans/no-copy.
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Troy Vogel
Marginal Prof. of ZOMG!
Join date: 16 Aug 2004
Posts: 478
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03-08-2006 11:28
From: Argent Stonecutter Err, what? How do you figure "mod/no-trans" isn't possible? The only combination that's not possible is no-trans/no-copy. Alright I am confused. Here is what I see in my UI: 1-Create a box 2-Set it to sell at x lindens 4-Set it to sell a copy and not the original 3-All permissions are turned on by default 4-Deselect Resell/Give Away 5-Deselect Copy 6-You will notice that a grayed out Resell/GiveAway box gets checked on by the application voila Modify/no-trans -> not possible. Or should I have said: Modify/no-copy/no-trans. Perhaps I was not being clear. Troy
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Zapoteth Zaius
Is back
Join date: 14 Feb 2004
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03-08-2006 11:49
From: Troy Vogel Alright I am confused. Here is what I see in my UI:
1-Create a box 2-Set it to sell at x lindens 4-Set it to sell a copy and not the original 3-All permissions are turned on by default 4-Deselect Resell/Give Away 5-Deselect Copy 6-You will notice that a grayed out Resell/GiveAway box gets checked on by the application
voila Modify/no-trans -> not possible.
Or should I have said: Modify/no-copy/no-trans. Perhaps I was not being clear.
Troy modify/nocopy/notrans is a lot clearer, as its no copy and no transfer that can't be done together. Modify and No Transfer CAN be used together, just not with No Copy, modify isn't an factor.
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Argent Stonecutter
Emergency Mustelid
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03-08-2006 12:35
From: Troy Vogel Deselect Copy 6-You will notice that a grayed out Resell/GiveAway box gets checked on by the application that's because you deselected Copy. You can't deselect both Copy and Transfer, but that's got nothing to do with Modify. From: someone Modify/no-copy/no-trans. Perhaps I was not being clear. Indeed. You can't have no-copy/no-trans, whether you have modify or not.
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