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Sonia Stardust
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Join date: 6 Nov 2006
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07-10-2007 10:49
Please make your stuff mod. There have been so many times when I have seen furniture that I loved...but it doesn't go with my unusual color palette in my gallery..and I just want to retexture the upholstery, or tint the wood to be a little more colorful but I can't so I don't buy it.
Please make stuff mod especially if you do not offer it in multiple colors/ styles. I usually don't go too crazy retexturing but I love to re-tint stuff so that it blends better with my look.
My favorite types of furniture creators are the ones who do the modern stuff...but you guys need to stop making that one boxy chair/sofa with the metal around it...everyone makes that! I'm sick of seeing it.
also, i'd love to see more modernized takes on old stuff...like...japanese tea tables and cushions that are more colorful, or are kind of distressed. I like the stuff that looks like it was recylced...but that stuff is usually made to look old and dirty and neutral colored (too much brown and grey for my tastes).
-make lower prim items of some of your more complex stuff. there's this one chandelier that i absolutely love, but i have no idea how many prims it is...but it looks like a lot...it looks too big for my gallery anyways..but if there was a smaller one that had just 3 candles on it i would probably definitely get it.
-let people choose buy object instead of pay object. i don't buy things when i don't know what i'm getting...and i want to know what the perms are going to be. if i can't modify it that will affect my decision to buy it. i'm not going to pay $400L for a chair if i can't modify it.
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Sonia Stardust
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07-10-2007 12:25
I don't know why I didn't think of this...but I can understand why many designers don't make their stuff mod now...they don't want people taking apart their goods to copy it. So...instead of making stuff mod...what I suggest is putting one of those color and/or texture changing scripts in the furniture and I will love it a lot more. hehe.
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JessyAnne Theas
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07-10-2007 12:29
Anything I build is no mod. A lot has copy/no trans perms, because it used to annoy me to go buy a nightstand for 150L and just have to buy it twice to make it look right... Or planters, etc. Usually though, if you ask the builder they will retexture or recolour it for you. I had someone upload a tiger texture once and inventory drop it to me so I could put it as the upholstery on their specific item
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Sonia Stardust
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07-10-2007 18:56
well that's cool! i know enough about building that i could probably just build what i really want if i wasn't being lazy.
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Wilhelm Neumann
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Join date: 20 Apr 2006
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07-11-2007 15:22
From: Sonia Stardust I don't know why I didn't think of this...but I can understand why many designers don't make their stuff mod now...they don't want people taking apart their goods to copy it. So...instead of making stuff mod...what I suggest is putting one of those color and/or texture changing scripts in the furniture and I will love it a lot more. hehe. a lot of stuff used to be mod but lately there has been a lot of incident of reverse engineering so over time items have less and less flexibility when it comes to that. I used to be able to buy mod shoes/boots anywhere but last time I went out to buy boots they were all no mod. I guess you can call it a sign of the times as they say and something people have to get used to. I have also started seeing more and more no mod houses as well but I never guy buildings not even when I was new but also for many reasons people are becoming more protective beacuse the incidence of reverse engineering etc has skyrocketed. I remember seeing some guys horse reverse engineered He made horses for riding etc and it had been reverse engineered on him so he had to remove any permissions except copy. Its unfortunate but well if someones gonna work to make furniture if i built furniture to sell I would at least want people to learn now and not copy exactly. Its highly irritating to say the least you think up a concept and build stuff around it etc only to have some guy come along and steal the entire thing I dont even care if it was only being sold for 10L its terribly unsettling and upsetting to have someone take something of yours and call it their own 
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Xenius Revere
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07-12-2007 15:37
As a furniture designer, i have a couple things I'd like to say in response to this thread.
Firstly Sonia, there a multitude of totally valid reasons why furniture is sometimes sold non-mod:
1. Sculpt Furniture. As of right now, with sculpt prim items sold mod, it is very easy to steal the sculpt texture out of the object via a simple screen grab in edit mode. Yes, one can hide it by using the alpha channel, but there are those of us who are worried that the alpha might eventually be used for something with the sculpt map, so its safer to simply sell it no mod. 2. Artistic choice. There are some of us who might not like you retexturing/recoloring our furniture, for multiple reasons. Firstly, our name is forever tied to that piece as the creator. Would you like spending days on something only to have someone recolor it hideously, and have others see it, right click on it, and associate your name as an artist with it? Secondly, its the artist's prerogative to decide whether something (s)he's made should be interactive/modifiable or not.
Next, if you're sick of seeing "that one boxy sofa" (i assume youre talking about the image I attached), then don't purchase it. Complaining about such things is like complaining that too many people sell furry heads, or lightsabers, or sex animations. Market demand prives production generally, so when people stop buying "that one boxy sofa you so hate", we as furniture artists, will probably stop making it.
Some of your feedback here overall is useful, and i would be more apt to agree were your overall tone not so irritated and arrogant sounding. I hope I've provided a couple answers as to why some of up furniture producers do what we do.
-Xen
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Sonia Stardust
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07-13-2007 16:43
um i said right after i posted that i realized why people do no mod... so i don't need to be lectured on that. i just didn't think of that at first because i'm not the type of person who would steal another persons design.
My arrogance is justified because it is for a good reason. there is a lot of unoriginal crap to sift through. there is a lot of theft going on. that does certainly irritate me. there are probably lots of designers who do actually design their own rugs and art...but it's very hard to tell. one thing that makes me suspicious of someone is when they have a lot of differing styles of art, or when i see something that i know is by someone famous. maybe they got permission...but i highly doubt it. it's pretty easy to just save a photo of a rug into your hard-drive and recolor it. It makes me sad when I see good furniture design and then they have rugs and art that they ripped off.
That's great if you are selling a lot of those chairs that I am sick of seeing! I'm weird and don't like things that everyone else likes...and to be honest, if I go into a store and see that chair my first impression is "uh oh another unoriginal designer" and sorry if that makes you feel bad...but that's how I honestly feel...i'm not sure if there are other people that feel that way, that may be affecting sales too. I usually do look around and sometimes find stuff that I like. I bought a clock from a furniture designer that had those chairs...the clock is very cool, and went with my palette...but the furniture was all white, black or red (i think) and no mod so i didn't buy any of it.
here are some colors that i have been using lately: Yellow, hot pink, orange, red, lime green, aqua and brown.
i pretty much gave up on furniture, just used what i have and what i've built myself and just bought a couple simple cushions and retinted them. eh...less prims anyways.
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Archer Braun
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Join date: 12 Nov 2006
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07-13-2007 17:19
No mod furniture is the suck. If my avi is a bit over or under standard size...being able to mod a piece of furniture to fit is critical. I'll never buy a piece of no mod furniture...period. And if it's a matter of "artistic integrity"...then mark it as a piece of art...not as something I'm going to spend time rubbing my digital bootie on. Just my two Linden's worth, is all...
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