Full Ownership/Creator Name Update?
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Vegas Vuckovic
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06-06-2007 16:42
I've done a search and am coming up with some conflicting information.
I contracted to have an item made. Upon completion and purchase I am to have full and exclusive rights to that item. I have the item and it's full copy/mod/transfer-resell. The problem lies in having the person I contracted listed still as the creator. I am listed as owner, and even when I take a copy of the of the item and rezz it, it still shows the person I contracted as creator versus myself.
I've also used that one item in a group of components that I've built to sell and it shows that person as the creator of the entire unit that I've built which included that item as part of it.
What am I doing wrong, or was the product transfer handled wrong at the start of exchange. He just dropped the item in my inventory when complete. Should he had set it at $0 and I purchased and would that have solved my problem?
Thanks in advance..
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Kyrah Abattoir
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06-06-2007 16:55
it won't change, because you aren't the creator. Even if someone made a commissioned work for you you can't remove them from the creator tag.
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Vegas Vuckovic
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06-06-2007 17:01
From: Kyrah Abattoir it won't change, because you aren't the creator. Even if someone made a commissioned work for you you can't remove them from the creator tag. Thanks for the response Kyrah. So if I use that one piece/item (created by someone else), within a grouping of items that I've created, and it equals only a small part of which I plan to link and sell, they will be seen as the creator for the entire item also?
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Shack Dougall
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06-06-2007 18:57
From: Vegas Vuckovic So if I use that one piece/item (created by someone else), within a grouping of items that I've created, and it equals only a small part of which I plan to link and sell, they will be seen as the creator for the entire item also?
I think it uses the root prim to determine how the linked item appears. So, if you want it to show you as the creator, you just have to make sure that you select one of your prims (one that you created) last before you link it.
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Kyrah Abattoir
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06-07-2007 14:26
actually if you use the "inspect" option you see a dump of all the elements of the object and their respective creator, but personally commission work or not i am not alright with the idea of someone appropriating himself the talent of another.
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Marcush Nemeth
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06-07-2007 18:30
Since you have full perms anyway, you can theoretically dismantle it and copy every attribute of every single prim into a new prim of your own. Well, textures might be harder, but you get the idea.
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Shack Dougall
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06-07-2007 19:00
From: Marcush Nemeth Since you have full perms anyway, you can theoretically dismantle it and copy every attribute of every single prim into a new prim of your own. Well, textures might be harder, but you get the idea. Way to go! That is so not helpful.
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Dragger Allen
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06-07-2007 20:24
add am invisable prim to it and link it as the last item on teh object it will then take the last prim linked as the creator
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Shack Dougall
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06-07-2007 20:29
From: Dragger Allen add am invisable prim to it and link it as the last item on teh object it will then take the last prim linked as the creator Didn't I already say that? Except that what you are saying is how to take someone else's work for yourself and what the OP wants is to take ownership of his/her own work.
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Dragger Allen
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06-07-2007 20:40
if he wanted to change the creator of the item he commisioned to have made for himt o sell then this is the way to do it as far as what you said i actually have no idea all i got was something about it not being right but i am not the morality police so its not my place to say whats right or wrong with some one else actions
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Shack Dougall
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06-07-2007 20:42
From: Dragger Allen if he wanted to change the creator of the item he commisioned to have made for himt o sell then this is the way to do it as far as what you said i actually have no idea all i got was something about it not being right but i am not the morality police so its not my place to say whats right or wrong with some one else actions have you heard of this amazing thing called a period?
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Flix Saiman
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06-07-2007 20:48
if a builder was commisioned to build somthing for sombody else for full perms.. imo that builder has lost his rights to be the orginal creator.. it wasnt his idea.. maybe the person that the commisioner is a scripter and not a builder and wants to showcase his script but is not a builder (that being said i am a builder not a scripter) If you want to make the object say your name.. add a prim and make sure that prim has you as the creator .. then all you have to do is make sure its the root prim (ie the last prim selected before linking) When i am commissioned to build things for people i actually request this. Because I dont want be bothered bout a product that I dont sell. Mostly because the scripts arnt working or somthing needs to be changed. I was commissioned to build somthing for somobdy else.. what he does with it at that point is up to him.
just my 2l worth
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Shack Dougall
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06-07-2007 20:49
From: Flix Saiman if a builder was commisioned to build somthing for sombody else for full perms.. imo that builder has lost his rights to be the orginal creator.. it wasnt his idea.. maybe the person that the commisioner is a scripter and not a builder and wants to showcase his script but is not a builder (that being said i am a builder not a scripter) If you want to make the object say your name.. add a prim and make sure that prim has you as the creator .. then all you have to do is make sure its the root prim (ie the last prim selected before linking) When i am commissioned to build things for people i actually request this. Because I dont want be bothered bout a product that I dont sell. Mostly because the scripts arnt working or somthing needs to be changed. I was commissioned to build somthing for somobdy else.. what he does with it at that point is up to him.
just my 2l worth Have you heard of paragraphs?
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Dragger Allen
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06-07-2007 20:51
From: Shack Dougall have you heard of this amazing thing called a period? so now we have english teachers here also wow its getting more and more like FL every day
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Shack Dougall
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06-07-2007 20:54
From: Dragger Allen so now we have english teachers here also
wow its getting more and more like FL every day If I'm an English teacher, you must be stupid. But I know for sure that I'm not an English teacher.
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Shack Dougall
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06-07-2007 21:18
From: Dragger Allen so now we have english teachers here also
wow its getting more and more like FL every day And my goodness. From March 2007, you've been fighting for this ideal called Second Life. But every day, you find yourself drawn back into the reality of it. grammar. periods. paragraphs. It is so inhumane....
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Helmut Wunderle
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06-07-2007 22:20
Please don't feed the Shack... er, Troll.
Just one more to add to the mute list.
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Ricci Beebe
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Grammar matters!
06-08-2007 06:25
From: Shack Dougall have you heard of this amazing thing called a period? Have you heard of the convention of starting a sentence with a capital letter? Ricci x
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