Welcome to the Second Life Forums Archive

These forums are CLOSED. Please visit the new forums HERE

For confirmation - selling objects

Xylo Quisling
Registered User
Join date: 1 Feb 2007
Posts: 146
04-04-2007 03:12
I've been told that the best way to sell furniture that you have in a shop is to use the root prim of the piece of furniture as a container, in which you put another copy of the piece. Then you set the Content of the first piece for sale.
Would you people agree that is the safest way?

Thanks,
Xylo
Jackal Ennui
does not compute.
Join date: 25 May 2005
Posts: 548
04-04-2007 03:57
If you put a copy of the furniture in the root prim of the display model, and set for sale "Content", the furniture will be delivered in a separate folder, named like the display model, to the buyer's inventory.

If you directly set the display model for sale "Copy", the furniture will be delivered into the buyer's Object folder, and not in a separate folder.

I'd say both methods are equally safe; but the "Content" method allows you to add a landmark or an information notecard that will be delivered to the buyer with the furniture, in the same folder. On the other hand, it will clutter the buyer's inventory with a lot of folders if multiple pieces of furniture are bought. So it really comes down to personal preference.
_____________________
Lassitude & Ennui - Fine prim jewelry & footwear, Nouveau(60,60)

http://lassitudeennui.blogspot.com/
Dido Zarf
Registered User
Join date: 5 Mar 2007
Posts: 1
04-04-2007 06:32
Thanks, Jackal. I was told that if you put 'Copy' for sale, the buyer can then make one more copy and sell that one, which the next buyer can do, too, etc. I have heard this in a selling class, so it is supposedly true, but I do find it a little odd.

Xylo
Xylo Quisling
Registered User
Join date: 1 Feb 2007
Posts: 146
04-04-2007 06:40
Thanks, Jackal. I was told that if you put 'Copy' for sale, the buyer can then make one more copy and sell that one, which the next buyer can do, too, etc. I have heard this in a selling class, so it is supposedly true, but I do find it a little odd.

Xylo
Arikinui Adria
Elucidated Deviant
Join date: 18 Aug 2006
Posts: 592
04-04-2007 07:06
From: Xylo Quisling
Thanks, Jackal. I was told that if you put 'Copy' for sale, the buyer can then make one more copy and sell that one, which the next buyer can do, too, etc. I have heard this in a selling class, so it is supposedly true, but I do find it a little odd.

Xylo


Hi Xylo!

When you mark the for sale option as "Copy" this does not change the perms you set for what the next person can do with it.

They can buy a copy, but not make another copy, nor sell copies unless you allow this via the perms of the item.

Sorry to say that the information you received is incorrect.

Best,
~Ari
Jackal Ennui
does not compute.
Join date: 25 May 2005
Posts: 548
04-04-2007 07:12
From: Xylo Quisling
Thanks, Jackal. I was told that if you put 'Copy' for sale, the buyer can then make one more copy and sell that one, which the next buyer can do, too, etc. I have heard this in a selling class, so it is supposedly true, but I do find it a little odd.


Nope, what you're talking about here are permissions, that's a different thing. I'd add a screenshot but SL is down for maintenance. Anyway, the permissions are on the General tab too (or under "Properties" when you right-click an item in inventory), and I think it says "Next owner permission". From the knowledgebase:

From: someone
The entries you want to change are listed under Next owner can:.
Modify: Checking this lets the next owner modify your creation. Unchecking it does not permit any modifications.
Copy: Checking this lets the next owner copy your creation If they drag the object from inventory to inworld, it will retain a copy in inventory. Unchecking it does not permit any copies; if they drag the object inworld it will leave the inventory until Taken back into inventory.
Resell/Give Away: Checking this lets the next owner give your creation to someone else. If the object permits Copy, they can sell copies. If the object does not permit Copy, they can sell the original. Unchecking this means the next owner cannot give the object to anyone else. If the object permits Copy, they can make as many copies as they want, but can never give a copy away or sell it.


These settings are totally independent from the "For sale" settings! For instance, if you have a piece of furniture that is modify / no copy / transfer, you can safely set it "For Sale - Copy". It won't allow the buyer to make multiple copies of the furniture, all it will do is deliver the item directly to their object folder.

The only setting to be careful of is "For Sale - Original" - this will transfer ownership of the displayed item from yourself to the buyer. The buyer then has to "Take" the item, and then it's gone for good (unless you kept a copy in your inventory). So while this is useful in a yard sale or if you're selling one of a kind items, it's a lot less useful in a regular furniture store. Unless you enjoy refurnishing the store every time someone goes on a shopping spree :D

If you're still unclear about the permission issue and different ways of selling, I would recommend getting together with a friend (or an alternate account) and selling a few plywood cubes back and forth to see for yourself how it works. You can set them for sale at 0L$ btw, it will still work the same way but no one will lose money trying this out.
_____________________
Lassitude & Ennui - Fine prim jewelry & footwear, Nouveau(60,60)

http://lassitudeennui.blogspot.com/
Xylo Quisling
Registered User
Join date: 1 Feb 2007
Posts: 146
04-04-2007 19:45
Yes, Arikinui and Jackal, that makes a lot more sense. I was made to Doubt by the advice of the class teacher - it was given as rather urgent advice. With the best of intentions, of course. But it seems, then, that it was mistaken.
And experimenting with it is of course a very good idea.

Thanks,
Xylo