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Sebastian Beltway
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08-09-2006 06:30
I'm not enirely sure if this should be the correct forum to post on, so here it goes.

As for my first question, It has been bothering me about these "Prims" Is it possible for a house to gain more prims than givin for the land? It's hard, Just buying a home and not being able to place anything inside of it due to the lack of prims!

My second question, as buying property in the ocean, Is there any restrictions or rules you need to know about making the land? As such, please help me!! and thank you for the feedback!
Dear Misfit
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08-09-2006 09:16
From: Sebastian Beltway
I'm not enirely sure if this should be the correct forum to post on, so here it goes.

As for my first question, It has been bothering me about these "Prims" Is it possible for a house to gain more prims than givin for the land? It's hard, Just buying a home and not being able to place anything inside of it due to the lack of prims!

My second question, as buying property in the ocean, Is there any restrictions or rules you need to know about making the land? As such, please help me!! and thank you for the feedback!


Sebastian, the fact that you ask the first question kind of makes it difficult for anyone to reply, because the answer is huge. Its kind of like 'what is blue?'... Thats a pretty big question, and rather hard to explain to a blind person. Let me give you some very basic information, then you can go and investigate some more for yourself.

A Prim is a "Primitive Object".... That means a shape. Everything in SL is a prim, including your Avitar. A script requires a prim to function, and a texture requires a prim to be visible (even if it makes the prim INvisible). While a scripted prim is generally textured, a textured prim isnt neccesarily scripted (in fact, few prims ARE scripted relative to the number of prims in-world). Land has a pre-defined Prim limit based upon its meterage. A 1024m lot, irrespective of its shape gets 234 prims....so a 512 gets 117, and a 65,000m full Sim gets 15,000 (numbers rounded up and down on the big one). What this means is, if you own a 1024m lot, it would be silly to drop a 235 prim house on it...because it just aint gonna stick. By the same token, dropping a house on a lot that runs about half your prim allocation is also not going to be a majorly good move, particularly on the smaller parcels (once you start getting up with the big parcels its not such a big deal). Generally, with landscaping, furniture, etc, you are going to AT LEAST match your house prim value, and thats only if your lot is purely residential...add a commercial element and expect your prim requirements to fly skywards.

"Buying land in the ocean". Be quite careful there Sebastian. Is this an ocean sim you are looking at buying land in? If so there is an incredibly reduced prim value on those sims. If its a 'normal' sim, you can use the 'edit land' facility (or some land shaping tools) to bring your property above water level.
Erin Talamasca
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08-09-2006 10:51
From: Dear Misfit
Is this an ocean sim you are looking at buying land in? If so there is an incredibly reduced prim value on those sims.


Is the prim allocation to land ratio different to that of 'land' sims? I didn't know that, it seems a little bonkers... Why would they do that?! What an odd world we build in...

I don't think the answer to the first question is so huge, if I've understood it correctly. As Dear said, but more basically, you are restricted to the number of prims you can use on your land based on the size of the parcel you own. You can increase the limit by buying more land in the same Sim (the parcels don't have to be connected for their prim limits to be shared, but do need to be in the same region). You can't increase that number unless you increase your land holdings.

If you find your house uses up so much of your prim allocation that you can't afford the space for furniture, the only solutions are to buy more land, or find a house and furniture which use less prims. There are a lot of low-prim prefabs out there for people with just the same problem.
Chosen Few
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08-09-2006 11:04
From: Dear Misfit
A Prim is a "Primitive Object".... That means a shape. Everything in SL is a prim, including your Avitar.

Actually, the avatar is a mesh model, not a primitive. Primitives are basic geometric shapes such as spheres, cubes, cylinders, etc.

Not everything in SL is a prim. Land, like the avatar model, is a mesh, not a prim. Particles are not prims. Ocean is not prims. The clouds in the sky, the sun, the moon, the stars, all not prims.

It's more acurate to say, the objects that we as users build in the world are made of prims. There are plenty of other things in SL that are not prims.


From: Sebastian Beltway
Is it possible for a house to gain more prims than givin for the land?

The simple answer here is no, you can't use more prims than are allocated for the amout of land you own. However, if you own two parcels of land in the same sim, you can combine their prim count, and use all your allotted prims on one parcel.

As Dear said, in normal sims, you get 117 prims for every 512 square meters of land. You have to keep your builds reasonable with respect to the land capacity, always. Don't go buying a giant mansion, and expect to put it on a tiny lot. It just ain't gonna happen.



From: Sebastian Beltway
My second question, as buying property in the ocean, Is there any restrictions or rules you need to know about making the land?

If you want to be able to edit land, you have to make sure you're buying property in a sim that is terraformable. Not all of them are.
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