make a meeting place

I would like to make a meeting place for about 100 people.
Something like a flat space with rows of chairs would be good.
Is it possible to make a whiteboard to write on?

I would appreciate ideas how to do this.

I have no idea how to get land, but I paid for the 512 sqm. Any hints on a good place for a classroom would be appreciated.

regards, Mark

To start, you will need a lot more than 512sqm, 100 people and chairs, a chair on average has 5 prims, thats 500 prims you will need just for that, or they can sit on boxes.

I would suggest talking to some landowners that rent out their land for various events.

Try this thread and others in the property and land rental/sales forum

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Any idea how to calculate how much land I would need to setup a classroom?

Is there a place where a non-profit group can have meetings?

regards
Mark

mainland sims only support 40 for a whole sim...

you really only need one prim per person for seating, and it doesn't have to be a box.

There was a "white board" marker product that I thought was pretty cool, used quicktime.

I have a few 512 lots, not for sale, but could let you try them out to get a feel for the size of the lot.

IM me in game.

100 people would be able to get onto a private sim - but not too comfortably. Very laggy after 50 avatars gather. Chairs aren'tthe answer - more of a stadium with sit scripts embedded in the benches. Go to SLexchnage.com and look up POWERPOINT. There are a few presentation systems available there.

Seems like you need to rent a quarter sim to make all of this happen (16,000M).

The way it works is every region supports 15,000 prims. Since a region is 256x256 meters, or 65,536 square meters, that breaks down into 117 prims for every 512 square meter parcel of land.

So, to go with Larrie's example of 5 prims per chair, you'd want to go with 2560 square meters.

However, you really don't need to invest 5 prims into each chair, especially in the age of sculpties. You can make a very nice chair out of a single sculpted prim. Putting 100 of those on a 512M parcel is certainly doable (although having that many sculpties on screen could mean a performance hit for people with low end graphics cards).

There is another limiting factor. As Renee mentioned, mainland regions only support 40 avatars at a time. That's for the entire region. Cramming 100 people into a small area is not gonna happen, at least not on the mainland.

If you really need to have 100 people in the same place at the same time, you'll want to do it on a private island. Islands have a lot more options than the mainland, which is why they cost more.

The 5 prims was only an example.

However, I do not know exactly what you are wanting to present or demonstrate, but if it is for non profit and/or educational purposes, then take a look at the Second Life main page, then the Second Life grid, there is an option there that may apply to your cicumstances under Education & Non Profit Organisations.

Even a private island would buckle under a load like that. Indeed it may be impossible in SL.

At minimum, you'd need 4 entire sims with a presentation area at the junction of the four. There is also a such a setup at the Ahern welcome area currenty which would likely fall over with 25 avatars per sim.

It is worth noting that the last time the Lindens themselves tried to hold a meeting on this scale, they could barely accomodate 80 attendees and even the presenter - the president of LL - crashed one or more times while trying to speak.

Assuming that your attendees aren't already running Second Life, you can reasonably expect 1/4 or more of them won't be able to get it running on their machine either. It would likely be less expensive and infinitely more reliable to fly your attendees to a conference room somewhere.

I only wish I were being pessimistic.

I think a 'nonphysical' presence facility would help. Users could move around and perhaps chat but the sim wouldn't have to simulate them or facilitate any interaction with objects around them... again havok seems to be the limiting factor here...

That's callled Internet Relay Chat* (IRC) and has been around for almost 20 years.

In fact, you could just make a static picture of an SL presenter and stadium of attendees, put that as "wallpaper" on the desktop, open a small IRC window on top of it, and have the same effect as a 100-way SL conference, except it would work and wouldn't cost much at all. I bet you could even have 200 attendees with this system.

Except you can't because I just filed a patent for "Simulation of Virtual World Presentation Facilities".

*http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Internet_Relay_Chat

Am I the only one that thinks gathering 100 people together in SL is extremely unlikely - you'd struggle to get that many if you were giving away free money!!! 100 people to meet and read from a whiteboard? Not gonna happen (IMHO)

Go on then, what's the event/class? I am curious...

Cat x

Malachi, I've been on IRC since 1993, but I don't see what that has to do with SecondLife, unless this is a geek competition in which case I will promptly take you up on it by referencing FidoNet.

Hey, I remember when FidoNet was the hot new thing for the BBS geeks. The true question is: can you emulate a 300 baud modem by singing into the phone?

The relation of IRC to the thread is that someone asked about a "non physical presence facility" which I read as Second Life without the avatars. Second Life without avatars is pretty much chat, whence IRC.

You may not have an avatar, but you'd still be able to look around the 3d environment of the sim. This is of course purely speculating that the bottleneck is physical simulation of the avatar... well, then again if they all sat down, they'd be nonphysical too. I wonder how many people you could reasonably have in a sim if they were all sitting

You need to contact Zatzai asturus, who owns an island that can handle the load youo want and is set up for what you are looking to do.