Lsl Wiki?

How many LSL WIKI's are there? When I Google "lsl wiki" several come up. Which is the official WIKI? I find that rpgstats.com is more consistent for me but I just wondered what is the history behind all these WIKI's? Are they mirrored or copies, or aeparate sites, or what?

Thanks,
~Maddy

The official one is at wiki.secondlife.com. It's not as complete as the others but it's the official one and (probably) most likely to be updated as new stuff comes along.

I do like the rpgstats one, though I try to stick to the offical wiki - it's not quite as complete as lslwiki.net but it doesn't have that horrid "double-click to edit" wiki software.

Originally, there was one LSL wiki, which started out life hosted by a third party, and created by the then LSL gurus and a lot of dedicated folks. LL then brought that wiki in-house, hosting it for a time. When some security issue within the wiki software cropped up, they made plans to drop it. In addition, the wiki didn't explicitly define its contribution license, which meant that no one was sure of the copyright status of its content, so LL, in a bid to be safe, decided that it would be a good idea to not host the content nor the software anymore.

It then moved to lslwiki.com, generously donated by Catherine Omega. It existed there fine for a while, but issues with her hosting provider caused regular downtimes in what had become a critical resource for LSL scripters. At this point, several forks came into being, as backups when the main wiki was down. The problem was that contributing to any one of the forks meant that the others, and the main wiki, would end up out-of-sync with one another, unless whoever posted changes to one also posted them to all. Some of the backup wikis disabled edits, choosing to just be a mirror, but only re-imported the main wiki sporadically. At some point, lslwiki.com was moved to lslwiki.net, for reasons unknown.

Later, some of the forum folks here (including moi) had a big discussion about our options, because the main wiki was still regularly having issues. Since LL had recently set up MediaWiki software to manage more of their new knowledgebase information, it was decided to go back to LL. The problem with that option was that LL would not allow the re-import of ANY content from the main wiki, except by the original authors, because of the copyright status issue. As a result, almost all of it had to be re-created from scratch.

Thus, what we have now is:

http://www.lslwiki.net -- the old "main" wiki
http://wiki.secondlife.com/wiki/LSL_Portal - the new "main" wiki
http://www.rpgstats.com/ -- a popular mirror of the old wiki
http://www.cheesefactory.us/lslwm -- another mirror of the old wiki

There are a couple more sites, but those are the main ones.

As for the future? The "official" wiki will undoubtedly be the most accurate and up-to-date (and stable *crosses talons*) wiki on LSL. It still has a bit of fleshing out to do, but it is already a good resource on the vast majority of LSL topics. The nice part about it is that we can obtain data dumps of the entire LSL wiki and host mirrors of our own, either for public or private use, so we are never again at the mercy of a single point of failure.

Yeah. That's what I meant to say.

Note: the cheesefactory wiki is a mirror maintained by Osgeld Barmy, and can be downloaded to your local PC!! YAY! Of course, not all the linking will work, but it is lightning fast to search

Also, if you use the LSL Editor, it now offers a choice of wikis that it can download and search.

The 'official' Wiki would be a whole lot more useful if it wasn't so dog slow. I also don't really understand why it has to be an https site - which presumably only contributes to its slowness.

Having said that I don't find any of the secondlife.com domain sites very swift or reliable. Maybe it's a 'UK thing' and a European mirror would help.

They're slow in America too. I'm thinking they run on ancient Class 3 sim hardware that's been decommissioned, or even less.

most of the linking issues is due to case sensitivity, so if you download it to a windows machine all the local links should work

Wiki History:

*In the beginning there was BadGeometry: http://www.badgeometry.com/
*It's bandwidth requirements almost killed it so LL offered to host it: http://www.secondlife.com/badgeo
*LL tried to enable UTF-8 support and screwed it up.
*LL started their own wiki, the Support Wiki based on Tiki, they managed to screw that up too.
*LL didn't want to maintain the LSL Wiki so they reneged.
*The wiki is offline for some time causing several mirrors and ports to pop up.
*It then moved to lslwiki. Because of the partial conversation to utf-8 it screwed up the ACLs leading to spamming.
*LL kills the support wiki and starts a new wiki based on MediaWiki. Without fail they manage to screw up the setup but not in a way that is as fatal as previous blunders.
*The LSL Portal is born on LL's new wiki. Content from the LSLWiki cannot be copied for fear of copyright problems.

The problem with the Support Wiki was that it would only allow you to remain logged in for a 15 minute session. You would start editing and when you clicked submit it would send you to a login page and you would loose your edit. Have that happen a couple times and you loose interest in posting.

The problem with the MediaWiki setup is how the two machines sync the category tables. They don't keep them properly synced which results in the pages ending up in the wrong categories or in the or the wrong order in the categories.

it can be accessed in either https, or general http (the secure access is presumably only for the purpose of logging into and/or editing and not otherwise needed)


you mean you don't like having to click the same link an average of 2-3 times for a page to load? or wait an average of 10-14secs just for the page to respond? I can't imagine why just so you know, I live not so far away from their offices... and those are my normal issues... I feel your pain.

Yep, the wiki is *slow*