Still looking for a full perm collar script
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Nickolas Goodman
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12-29-2006 15:44
Hi everyone. I am still looking for a full permission collar script for my collars. The one I have is no mod and has issues, needs updating but I can't get a hold of the scripter. Is there anyone that can create one for a price or knows of one I can buy? Thanks so much!
Nick
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Newgate Ludd
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Join date: 8 Apr 2005
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12-30-2006 02:50
What you want is basically similar to a multipose ball, the specific poses make little or no difference. The main difference is that it will be worn as an attachment, like an AO.
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Nickolas Goodman
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12-30-2006 10:11
Thanks Newgate. I can see that for the animations but how do the leash, cage and adding owners relate to pose balls as well as other slave/sub/pet options it has?  Nick
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Newgate Ludd
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12-30-2006 10:44
From: Nickolas Goodman Thanks Newgate. I can see that for the animations but how do the leash, cage and adding owners relate to pose balls as well as other slave/sub/pet options it has?  Nick Afraid I cant help you on that side as I dont understand the question.
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Silje Russell
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Join date: 2 Oct 2005
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12-30-2006 16:05
oki i am sure i sound like a bitch by saying this But what about do as us other that made collars.. learn to script? I said to my self i wanted to make collar now i doing it! So way not learn how to script and you see how it done If you want full perm script look at libary not tips.. Tips are for hints and help
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Nickolas Goodman
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12-30-2006 16:35
Newgate, no problem. I think I am in the wrong forum for this request. Thanks.  <Silje Russell wrote> >oki i am sure i sound like a bitch by saying this >But what about do as us other that made collars.. >learn to script? >I said to my self i wanted to make collar now i doing it! >So way not learn how to script and you see how it done >If you want full perm script look at libary not tips.. >Tips are for hints and help Silje, Scripting is not for everyone. Not all of us out here have the fortitude and/or time to learn such a cryptic thing as LSL and would rather pay a good deal for a skilled scripter to do it for us. Just because you claim you did does not mean all others have to follow suit. We are all different and have different strengths and weaknesses. I cannot script and do not lose any sleep over it. Think about it. I will end this thread now and post to the other forum. Thanks.
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Silje Russell
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12-31-2006 02:09
not saying you need to learn everyting at once. But a full collar scripts is lots of coding. So maybe write the basic functions you self. Then com back asking for help on the functions you have problems with. like animations system and so on.
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Winter Ventura
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12-31-2006 02:29
Can I suggest that you contact Amethyst Rosencrans? She sells a collar with almost every function you wish to instill in yours.. and I think she has a version that is "just scripts" (you make your own collar).. perhaps you can work out a deal with her where you produce a model and new features, and perhaps cut her a kickback on the proceeds from selling your unit.. or something.
The price is really reasonable.. moreso when you realize the amount and quality of tech support she gives.
Amethyst's stuff is "Da Bomb" (if the kids still say that these days). I have found her collar to be "all the collar I need". (and it's moddable, so you can re-shell it if you like).
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Zozo Plympton
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Join date: 26 Oct 2006
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12-31-2006 06:10
As the collar script writing people make a living by selling that the collar (or collar script) I am pretty sure that nobody will sell you a full rights script for any fixed amount of money.
It seems that the best suggestion is to cut a deal with one of the collar makers... as sugested in the post above.
my 2c. Zozo
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altic Plasma
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Join date: 15 Mar 2006
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12-31-2006 06:36
i paid someone 15K for my full perm collar script, and from what i gather thats cheap as the person i brought it off paid 50K to have it made for them
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Silje Russell
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12-31-2006 07:33
Oki its alright to buy tings from others but i only think what about the day script break cus of changes from LL? they who been buying scripts like thatwill probly not cud fix it so the end customer loses. Thats also a reason way i dont buy or sell custom scripts like that.. i can show howtos and so on give hints. but complet scripts its like do the home work for a kid they learn noting cus its copy and past
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Kinga Svarog
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i would suggest him to do the same but one prob
12-31-2006 09:50
From: Winter Ventura Can I suggest that you contact Amethyst Rosencrans? She sells a collar with almost every function you wish to instill in yours.. and I think she has a version that is "just scripts" (you make your own collar).. perhaps you can work out a deal with her where you produce a model and new features, and perhaps cut her a kickback on the proceeds from selling your unit.. or something.
The price is really reasonable.. moreso when you realize the amount and quality of tech support she gives.
Amethyst's stuff is "Da Bomb" (if the kids still say that these days). I have found her collar to be "all the collar I need". (and it's moddable, so you can re-shell it if you like). i would have told him to do the same but one prob with ame, you don't get full perms. her no mods on em and you don't get the actual script you get the collar or the collar you make she scripts for you. but however they are no mod....thus not fully permed
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Newgate Ludd
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Join date: 8 Apr 2005
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12-31-2006 10:11
From: Silje Russell Oki its alright to buy tings from others but i only think what about the day script break cus of changes from LL? they who been buying scripts like thatwill probly not cud fix it so the end customer loses. Thats also a reason way i dont buy or sell custom scripts like that.. i can show howtos and so on give hints. but complet scripts its like do the home work for a kid they learn noting cus its copy and past Every update to SL gives the potential to break scripts. I seriously doubt there is any script out there that would be the ONLY one to be affected by any change introduced problem. And there in lies the strength of the forums. Any problem posted is automatically going to have several scripters pointing at it almost instantly. If the problem is significant then there will be significantly more scripts affected and hence significantly more people working on a solution. I agree with the homework analogy but only to a point. As had been previousy posted, some people just cant script, they dont have the time, patience or logical bent of mind to wade through the convoluted process of converting an idea into a working script. But they are happier not learning, they just point us at the problem and say go fix. If a script is full mod then its only a matter of spending the time to read and digest what its doing so as to be able to debug, support or enhance.
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Nickolas Goodman
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12-31-2006 10:19
Thank you to everyone for the suggestions and tips! I have been able to tweak some scripts when I understand them...small scripts of course. *sighs* The script I bought copy/resell rights to, Gaz Hornpipe's, works but has some bugs and I can't reach him and don't think he supports it any longer. I have looked at the wiki but it leaves so much out for the different options that each function uses, I am lost on it all. Is there another resource that explains them any better out there? Yes, it seems I will have to learn it somehow to have a better product or pull the script out and sell unscripted collars. People seem to like my designs since they are unique but having a working script will really help them take off. I have seen the Amethyst collars and agree they have much potential. I will contact her and see what can be worked out. Thanks again to everyone. Your replies are grealty appreciated.  Nick
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Newgate Ludd
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12-31-2006 10:27
The wikki and this forum are by far the best resources you can possibly get. If you know explicitly what problems you are having post direct focued question, even without seeing the code we may be able to offer suggestions which will enable you to either narrow your search, post a second question or may be even solve the probloem.
If it gets to the point where we need to see code then you may be able to strip out the sensitive stuff and post a skeleton that will still give us a clue.
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Nickolas Goodman
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12-31-2006 10:32
Thanks Newgate. I will see what I can come up with.  Nick
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Samantha Fuller
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01-01-2007 22:58
Im a fairly novice scripter and woud like some advise on learning to make an anchor chain script for a flying boat that woud work something like those leashes.
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Yumi Murakami
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Join date: 27 Sep 2005
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01-02-2007 11:26
I wrote a set of collar scripts a while back but then discovered it wasn't worth developing further because of the market being cornered by Amethyst. I'm redeveloping the "new" features as a plug-in for the Amethyst (and any other one with an SDK) - at least, those that can be plugged in; most of the SDKs are kinda limited, so things like the configurable permissions system will probably have to be dropped. I could, thus, probably post or do something else the basic scripts that just duplicated existing functionality, although they're only beta quality and not entirely complete (and don't have some of the features that are standard nowadays, such as the chain timing formula)
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Krazzora Zaftig
Do you have my marbles?
Join date: 20 Aug 2005
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01-02-2007 11:47
Amethyst Products = <ITEM> of ownage +5 (with linden protection) Most people sell the same stuff no copy that she sells at a fraction of the price and copy. She's helpful when you break stuff and will even help you understand her scripts if you decide to get creative (My facial piercings were modified to allow her nose ring script). Heck she has some things last I checked her competitors did not have and that's cuase she listened to people. ^_^ She might not be full perm BUT she might be willing to help you in your plight one way or another if she is able.
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Nickolas Goodman
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01-02-2007 16:48
Yumi, Thank you so much! Anything you may have for collar functionality would help incredibly. It would, if nothing else, give me some code to look at while I learn to develop the script on my own. I took a programming class many years ago that did not teach much more than basic so it will be rough going until I learn LSL. I know each thing I want the collar to do will be a challenge in itself and will take some time but hopefully with everyone's help and time I will be able to put it all together. Krazzora, thanks. I will talk to her and see if she is willing to help me in some way. I will keep reading the wiki and combing the forums for info while I learn and post bits of script here when I come to a roadblock and can't continue without some help. Thanks to everyone for past and future help.  Nick
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