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Massive Dump of Script Library into wiki?

Christopher Omega
Oxymoron
Join date: 28 Mar 2003
Posts: 1,828
04-10-2006 14:30
Hey all,

How would everone react to scripts being moved from the forum Script Library to the wiki's ScriptLibrary page? Should I ask every contributer individually? What do I do about page ownership if the script's author isn't registered on the wiki?

Access to these forums is restricted for a significant portion of the SL population, teen-grid users, in particular. The duplicaton will also emphasize the script's presence (more people will see it), since we have easier ways to organize data on the wiki.

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Catherine Omega
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Join date: 10 Jan 2003
Posts: 2,053
04-10-2006 15:03
It's probably a good idea, but there's likely to be some authors who aren't as happy about it. I say do it, and if anyone has a problem, remove their scripts. You're not going to get a response from every author you ask permission otherwise.
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Seifert Surface
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Join date: 14 Jun 2005
Posts: 912
04-10-2006 15:10
Good idea at first thought, but possibly clunky - newer versions of scripts would need to be updated in two places. Ideally the author of the script would own the wiki page, but that seems infeasible.
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Jeffrey Gomez
Cubed™
Join date: 11 Jun 2004
Posts: 3,522
04-10-2006 16:04
Good question. I'd actually ask Nada about it first. Because the duplication is a relevant point.

As for my piece, feel free to move my stuff wholesale, including your own mods (eg. model importer). Just be sure to give credit where it's due. Not that that's a problem, ya? :)
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Eloise Pasteur
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Join date: 14 Jul 2004
Posts: 1,952
04-10-2006 16:37
If Nada's OK with it, I'd say go for it more or less.

The only thing I'd be cautious about is if there's a script that later scripting calls have totally outmoded. I remember a halving walk to find the number of notecard lines for example, which is no longer relevant since the get number of lines call.
MC Seattle
Registered User
Join date: 3 Apr 2006
Posts: 63
04-10-2006 16:42
Feel free to include any of my code (which includes everything from Eddy Stryker and MC Seattle). I try and remember to mark the code as licensed under LGPL or CC Attribution, but I forgot to attach the notice sometimes so just assume CC Attribution license for all my work.
Osgeld Barmy
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Join date: 22 Mar 2005
Posts: 3,336
04-10-2006 16:54
DUMP heh


anyways, what would be the point (besides the wiki is ezer to search from the root/ homepage level)

BTW ppl you can search subtopics here.. you just have to go out of your way (and its crappy becuase they have the subforums setup like a monkey smoking crack driving a 18wheeler)
Jeffrey Gomez
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Join date: 11 Jun 2004
Posts: 3,522
04-10-2006 19:13
From: Osgeld Barmy
anyways, what would be the point (besides the wiki is ezer to search from the root/ homepage level)

Because not all people like using the forums. The wiki is less resource-intensive for public viewing, as in class (my fan kicks in when I'm on these forums). The wiki also has a much more friendly presentation than the trolli^H^H^H^H^H^H one on these forums.


Also, the knee-jerk reaction for many of us is "search for the solution on the wiki." Having the data mirrored, or at the very least referenced there, would be a great help to eager newbies. Since I get mentoring questions every so often from there, I assume people are still using the wiki these days. :D
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Osgeld Barmy
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04-10-2006 23:02
dont see why, the search is almost as useless as the forums (do a search for set, it pulls up google, wow helpfull eventho theres 100000000 commands that use set in the function)

alot of the info is plain ol wrong or not verry helpfull (or 15 versions out of date)

NOTE THIS POST HAS CHANGED DURING 1.3 (who gives a FK)

and how much less resource intensive do you need besides some generic mambo website with a picture in the banner ... lets start using lynx again its much faster on a 2 ghz pc

heh even this color sceme is one of the mambo defaults ...

i use the wiki alot but its mostly for copy and paste of functions ... ive not really learned anything from it, most of what ive learned is tru inworld ppl or trial and error

really LL needs to get their ass in gear and bring some sort of organization to the fourms

maby then if i search a sub forum i could actually get help instead of 37 pages of ppl bitching about land and trees
Newfie Pendragon
Crusty and proud of it
Join date: 19 Dec 2003
Posts: 1,025
04-11-2006 07:37
I'm ok with my scripts being put on the wiki. I would like ability to edit it though, for any future updates I may make.


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Lex Neva
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Join date: 27 Nov 2004
Posts: 1,361
04-11-2006 09:32
Likewise, feel free to drag over my stuff. I'd love to be able to edit it too, but I seem to have lost the password to the LexNeva wikiword. Maybe I'll see if I can get that reset for me.
MC Seattle
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Join date: 3 Apr 2006
Posts: 63
04-12-2006 00:46
I know I'm falling for bait responding to a troll, but here it goes.
From: Osgeld Barmy
dont see why, the search is almost as useless as the forums (do a search for set, it pulls up google, wow helpfull eventho theres 100000000 commands that use set in the function)
What was the expected result of searching the wiki for "set", and how does that differ from the output you got? If you search for set and it returns every function that contains the word set, did something go wrong? Also, try searching the forums for the word set and see what you get. Well, you can imagine what you might get but in practice you'll never find out since you can't search forums for three letter words.
From: Osgeld Barmy

alot of the info is plain ol wrong or not verry helpfull (or 15 versions out of date)

NOTE THIS POST HAS CHANGED DURING 1.3 (who gives a FK)
I haven't found any wrong info on there, could you link to a specific article that is wrong or out of date? Digging through the scripting library in the forums and reading old scripting tips forum you are guaranteed to find information that is out of date, and there is no drawn line of what is new and what is worthless. The wiki has the ability to adapt all of it's content to changes in LSL and SL.
From: Osgeld Barmy

and how much less resource intensive do you need besides some generic mambo website with a picture in the banner ... lets start using lynx again its much faster on a 2 ghz pc

heh even this color sceme is one of the mambo defaults ...

i use the wiki alot but its mostly for copy and paste of functions ... ive not really learned anything from it, most of what ive learned is tru inworld ppl or trial and error
When I'm developing in SL I typically have a copy of MSVC open (for running statistical simulations or pre-writing code in a more familiar language before LSL), a copy of Photoshop, some sort of image thumbnail previewer, UltraEdit, Excel, iTunes, calc, couple explorer folders and Firefox with a dozen to two dozen tabs open. The leaner content of the wiki makes it much quicker to have a dozen wiki tabs open to different functions and sample code rather than the more visually aesthetic forums.
From: Osgeld Barmy

really LL needs to get their ass in gear and bring some sort of organization to the fourms

maby then if i search a sub forum i could actually get help instead of 37 pages of ppl bitching about land and trees
If you search the scripting library sub-forum you get posts that are fairly straight to the point I've found, and even the scripting tips is not bad. Of course you will always get the low signal to noise ratio found on forums, whereas a wiki is as content-oriented as the web gets.
Zeera Xi
Real Join Date: Mid '05
Join date: 21 Sep 2006
Posts: 54
10-22-2006 11:30
I know that this thread is..ancient. But I believe it is quite an important subject to look at and it did not receive the attention it should.

The scripts in the scripting library are extremely useful, but it is very very hard to go through them all to find what you need with the loading time of the forums and all.

On the other hand if the scripts were on the wiki it could be very neatly organized into sections and categories and with a fast loading rate.
Llauren Mandelbrot
Twenty-Four Weeks Old.
Join date: 26 Apr 2006
Posts: 665
10-23-2006 08:57
I would like to suggest a compromize solution.

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