Sitting & Flying in Spaceship headache

Hiya
I'm hoping to get some advice on this headache of mine.

I made a 1 seat saucer (UFO) in my 1st couple of weeks
Fairly basic saucer with glowy bottom, round hull and glass top etc.
I took the famous magic carpet script, which was ideal and placed it in the saucer.
That was okay as long as you right clicked 'FLY' anywhere on the saucer except for the hull.
Why I'm not sure!

I'm now making a pink version for a friend of mine (lol) and
Ive put 3 seats in the saucer this time and each seat has a pose ball for the sit. The seats work fine on their own
I put the Hover script in the hull and when right clicking to FLY, the AV (me) ends up facing upwards positioned inbetween all 3 seats!!

Now when looking at the original seat itself on the magic carpet, local axis X (red) is facing forwards in same direction of AV when sat and Z axis (blue) up.

On my saucer hull, which is made from a flattened sphere with one dimple end opened out, local X axis is facing up and z axis s facing back (rear)

I cant make the sphere with dimple opened out on z axis so I must have the hull the way it is (dimple cuts are along the x axis)

When I fly the saucer (with the AV still facing upwards!) after typing START, the saucer just rises upwards.
Before, when experimenting..the saucer would just dive nose down and become vertical. It would fly ok but hull was vert!

Ive tried sittarget scripts in the hull, poseball with the hover script in it..tried all sorts..but too no avail

Any advice on how to fix the above problem and any tutorials, scripts, tools, guides that might make me a little more knowledgable in this frustrating area...will be gratefully appreciated!

Taz

i'm not sure if this is what you mean Taz, but have a look inside the flight script, there is probably a sit target inside that script that is making your AV sit funny and it sounds like the vehicle is running on a different axis than the way you want it to, don't worry, happens to everyone i think. now when making a vehicle i usually make sure the script is running fine on one prim (seat/hull) and then build the rest around it.

another way for you to get around this is to put the fly script inside a invisable box, sit on it, position it correctly inside your space ship so your av faces the right way and the ship fly's the right way, then link it to your ship making it the parent prim.

-Crunch

This is the script in question
This is obtained free from Abbots Airfield - shop....top floor
It's a nice script (from a flying point of view) but the vehicles banks when turning and that really doesnt suit an UFO (I'm sure UFO's dont bank!)

Anything obvious?


// Cubey Terra Helicopter Style Flight script

// Do not delete these script credits! If you modify this script, *add* your name and date and make your work available in Public Domain.

// * Portions based on a public-domain flight script from Jack Digeridoo.
// * Portions based on hoverboard script by Linden Lab.
// * Nov 30, 2003 - Significant modifications and additions by Cubey Terra... (apologies for the crappy indenting). -CT
// * Jan 11, 2004 - Fixed listen bug. Thanks to Trimming Hedges for the solution. -TH
// * March 27, 2004 - Adapted to work as helicopter-style vehicle -CT
// * April 8, 2004 - Adapted to work as U-Fly Taxi -CT
// * April 15, 2004 - Adapted to work as DIY helicopter script -CT
// * ???, 2004 - Adapted to work as magic carpet. -CT
// * April 10, 2006 - Released to public. Tidied some code. Added beacon. Allowed anyone to pilot, no longer keyed to owner. -CT


integer sit = FALSE;
integer listenTrack;
integer brake = TRUE;
integer BEACON_INT = 1440; //# of mins between beacon messages
integer beaconMins; // current # of minutes elapsed since last beacon message

float X_THRUST = 20;
float Z_THRUST = 15;

float xMotor;
float zMotor;

key agent;
key pilot;

vector SIT_POS = <0.25, 0.0, 0.65>;
vector CAM_OFFSET = <-10.0, 0.0, 2.0>;
vector CAM_ANG = <0.0, 0.0, 2.0>;

listenState(integer on) // start/stop listen
{
if (listenTrack)
{
llListenRemove(listenTrack);
listenTrack = 0;
}
if (on) listenTrack = llListen(0, "", pilot, "";
}

help()
{
llWhisper(0,"O Master of the Carpet, you may use these commands to fly me...";
llWhisper(0," Say START to begin moving.";
llWhisper(0," Say STOP to stop moving.";
llWhisper(0," PgUp/PgDn or E/C = hover up/down";
llWhisper(0," Arrow keys or WASD = forward, back, left, right";
llWhisper(0," Say HELP to display help.";
}


default {
state_entry()
{
llSetSitText("Fly";
llSitTarget(SIT_POS, ZERO_ROTATION);
llSetCameraEyeOffset(CAM_OFFSET);
llSetCameraAtOffset(CAM_ANG);
llCollisionSound("",0.0);


//SET VEHICLE PARAMETERS
llSetVehicleType(VEHICLE_TYPE_AIRPLANE);

llSetVehicleVectorParam( VEHICLE_LINEAR_FRICTION_TIMESCALE, <200, 20, 20> );


// uniform angular friction
llSetVehicleFloatParam( VEHICLE_ANGULAR_FRICTION_TIMESCALE, 2 );

// linear motor
llSetVehicleVectorParam( VEHICLE_LINEAR_MOTOR_DIRECTION, <0, 0, 0> );
llSetVehicleFloatParam( VEHICLE_LINEAR_MOTOR_TIMESCALE, 2 );
llSetVehicleFloatParam( VEHICLE_LINEAR_MOTOR_DECAY_TIMESCALE, 120 );

// agular motor
llSetVehicleVectorParam( VEHICLE_ANGULAR_MOTOR_DIRECTION, <0, 0, 0> );
llSetVehicleFloatParam( VEHICLE_ANGULAR_MOTOR_TIMESCALE, 0 );
llSetVehicleFloatParam( VEHICLE_ANGULAR_MOTOR_DECAY_TIMESCALE, .4);

// hover
llSetVehicleFloatParam( VEHICLE_HOVER_HEIGHT, 2 );
llSetVehicleFloatParam( VEHICLE_HOVER_EFFICIENCY, 0 );
llSetVehicleFloatParam( VEHICLE_HOVER_TIMESCALE, 10000 );
llSetVehicleFloatParam( VEHICLE_BUOYANCY, 0.977 );

// no linear deflection
llSetVehicleFloatParam( VEHICLE_LINEAR_DEFLECTION_EFFICIENCY, 0 );
llSetVehicleFloatParam( VEHICLE_LINEAR_DEFLECTION_TIMESCALE, 5 );

// no angular deflection
llSetVehicleFloatParam( VEHICLE_ANGULAR_DEFLECTION_EFFICIENCY, 0);
llSetVehicleFloatParam( VEHICLE_ANGULAR_DEFLECTION_TIMESCALE, 5);

// no vertical attractor
llSetVehicleFloatParam( VEHICLE_VERTICAL_ATTRACTION_EFFICIENCY, 1 );
llSetVehicleFloatParam( VEHICLE_VERTICAL_ATTRACTION_TIMESCALE, 1 );

// banking
llSetVehicleFloatParam( VEHICLE_BANKING_EFFICIENCY, 1);
llSetVehicleFloatParam( VEHICLE_BANKING_MIX, .5);
llSetVehicleFloatParam( VEHICLE_BANKING_TIMESCALE, 0.01);


// default rotation of local frame
llSetVehicleRotationParam( VEHICLE_REFERENCE_FRAME, <0,0,0,1>;

// remove these flags
llRemoveVehicleFlags( VEHICLE_FLAG_NO_DEFLECTION_UP
| VEHICLE_FLAG_HOVER_WATER_ONLY
| VEHICLE_FLAG_LIMIT_ROLL_ONLY
| VEHICLE_FLAG_HOVER_TERRAIN_ONLY
| VEHICLE_FLAG_HOVER_GLOBAL_HEIGHT
| VEHICLE_FLAG_HOVER_UP_ONLY
| VEHICLE_FLAG_LIMIT_MOTOR_UP );

}

on_rez(integer num)
{
llSetStatus(STATUS_PHYSICS, FALSE);
pilot = llGetOwner();
llSetTimerEvent(60); // beacon timer for 1 min intervals
}


listen(integer channel, string name, key id, string message)
{
message == llToLower(message);
if (message == "help"
{
help();
}

if (message == "stop"
{
brake = TRUE;
llWhisper(0,"We are stopped, O Master of the Carpet. You may say START to resume flight.";
llSetStatus(STATUS_PHYSICS, FALSE);

}
else if (message == "start"
{
brake = FALSE;
llWhisper(0,"I hear and obey, O Master of the Carpet. We now begin flight.";
llSetStatus(STATUS_PHYSICS, TRUE);
}
}


// DETECT AV SITTING/UNSITTING AND GIVE PERMISSIONS
changed(integer change)
{
agent = llAvatarOnSitTarget();
if(change & CHANGED_LINK)
{
if((agent == NULL_KEY) && (sit))
{
//
// Avatar gets off vehicle
//
llSetStatus(STATUS_PHYSICS, FALSE);
llStopAnimation("sit_ground";
llMessageLinked(LINK_SET, 0, "unseated", "";
llStopSound();
llReleaseControls();
sit = FALSE;
listenState(FALSE);
}
else if ((agent != NULL_KEY) && (!sit))
{
//
// Avatar gets on vehicle
//
pilot = llAvatarOnSitTarget();
sit = TRUE;
llRequestPermissions(pilot, PERMISSION_TAKE_CONTROLS | PERMISSION_TRIGGER_ANIMATION);
listenState(TRUE);
llWhisper(0,"O Master of the Carpet, "+llKey2Name(pilot)+", command me as you will. Should you need assistance, please speak the word HELP.";
llMessageLinked(LINK_SET, 0, "seated", "";
}


}
}





//CHECK PERMISSIONS AND TAKE CONTROLS
run_time_permissions(integer perm)
{
if (perm & (PERMISSION_TAKE_CONTROLS))
{

llTakeControls(CONTROL_UP | CONTROL_DOWN | CONTROL_FWD | CONTROL_BACK | CONTROL_RIGHT | CONTROL_LEFT | CONTROL_ROT_RIGHT | CONTROL_ROT_LEFT, TRUE, FALSE);

}
if (perm & PERMISSION_TRIGGER_ANIMATION)
{
// Admittedly, animations are bugged. I'll let you figure it out. -CT
llStartAnimation("sit_ground";
llStopAnimation("sit";
}

}





//FLIGHT CONTROLS
control(key id, integer level, integer edge)
{

vector angular_motor;
integer motor_changed;

if ((level & CONTROL_FWD) || (level & CONTROL_BACK))
{

if (edge & CONTROL_FWD) xMotor = X_THRUST;

if (edge & CONTROL_BACK) xMotor = -X_THRUST;
}
else
{
xMotor = 0;
}


if ((level & CONTROL_UP) || (level & CONTROL_DOWN))
{
if (level & CONTROL_UP)
{
zMotor = Z_THRUST;
}
if (level & CONTROL_DOWN)
{
zMotor = -Z_THRUST;
}

}
else
{
zMotor = 0;

}

llSetVehicleVectorParam(VEHICLE_LINEAR_MOTOR_DIRECTION, <xMotor,0,zMotor>;



if (level & CONTROL_RIGHT) {
angular_motor.x = TWO_PI;
angular_motor.y /= 8;
}
if (level & CONTROL_LEFT) {
angular_motor.x = -TWO_PI;
angular_motor.y /= 8;
}

if (level & CONTROL_ROT_RIGHT) {
angular_motor.x = TWO_PI;
angular_motor.y /= 8;
}

if (level & CONTROL_ROT_LEFT) {
angular_motor.x = -TWO_PI;
angular_motor.y /= 8;
}


llSetVehicleVectorParam(VEHICLE_ANGULAR_MOTOR_DIRECTION, angular_motor);
}

timer()
{
//This is a beacon. Vehicles that are not keyed to owner will often get stolen.
// To avoid leaving vehicle litter all over the world, this beacon notifies the owner of it's location.
if (beaconMins < BEACON_INT)
{
beaconMins += 1;
}
else
{
beaconMins = 0;
vector pos = llGetPos();
llInstantMessage(llGetOwner(), "O Master of the Carpet, I have been left unattended in "+llGetRegionName()+" "+(string)((integer)pos.x)+", "+(string)((integer)pos.y)+", at an altitude of "+(string)((integer)pos.z)+" meters.";
}
}
}