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Phate Shepherd

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Join date: 14 Feb 2008

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01-28-2009 10:57

I am scripting an item that really benefits from the expanded memory that mono provides for scripts.

What are the cons to writing for Mono right now? I have heard there is a bug related to resetting mono scripts?

The script is extremely cleanly coded, breaking it up into smaller non-mono sized chunks would deteriorate the interactive nature of the script.

Sindy Tsure

Will script for shoes

Join date: 18 Sep 2006

Posts: 4,103

01-28-2009 11:28

With them getting server-1.25 up on the production grid, I think they're declaring that Mono is finally more-or-less happy.

Babbage Linden would really be the one to ask, though: http://wiki.secondlife.com/wiki/Office_hours#Babbage_Linden

Hewee Zetkin

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Join date: 20 Jul 2006

Posts: 2,702

01-28-2009 12:03

I haven't had any problems with it in the past couple months, and I've been compiling EVERYTHING to Mono. Beware of the "Wow! More memory!" pitfall though. It's not always true that you can fit in more data. Take a look for other threads discussing memory and mono on this forum for more info.

Darien Caldwell

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Join date: 12 Oct 2006

Posts: 3,127

01-28-2009 14:11

I've been selling complex scripted items compiled to mono since server 1.23 when it first came out. Was a bit rocky at first, but with 1.25 now out, it's pretty stable. I would recommend you use it.

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Jack Abraham

Lantern By Day

Join date: 11 Apr 2008

Posts: 113

01-29-2009 07:28

Everything I script I do in Mono, and I've had no issues I can identify.

RobbyRacoon Olmstead

Red warrior is hungry!

Join date: 20 Sep 2006

Posts: 1,821

01-29-2009 07:43

Mono seems to be pretty stable as far as I can tell. There are still bugs, and still some perfectly valid LSL that won't compile to Mono, but overall I'd encourage you to keep using it.

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Lear Cale

wordy bugger

Join date: 22 Aug 2007

Posts: 3,569

01-29-2009 09:01

No problems here, after the first few hiccups (e.g., super slow running state_exit handlers).

It's as stable as anything else in SL. I highly recommend it, esp if you need more memory.

Yingzi Xue

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Join date: 11 Jun 2008

Posts: 144

01-29-2009 10:37

MONO is great. I haven't had a bit of trouble with my scripts. I haven't compiled an LSL script since the conversion and I'm not looking back. One thing to keep in mind... whenever you edit and save a MONO compiled script in your inventory it reverts back to LSL. You have to put it in an object and recompile it as MONO.

Ceera Murakami

Texture Artist / Builder

Join date: 9 Sep 2005

Posts: 7,750

01-29-2009 10:45

So far, I have only had one script fail to work correctly after converting it to Mono. The rest ran flawlessly.

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Hewee Zetkin

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Join date: 20 Jul 2006

Posts: 2,702

01-29-2009 12:12

Ah, darn. I spoke a little too soon it seems. Just last night I got an error like this:

From: someone

objectName [scriptName]: System.NullReferenceException: Object reference not set to an instance of an object
at LindenLab.SecondLife.LslUserScript.OnEvent (ScriptEvent evt) [0x00000]-
at LindenLab.SecondLife.Script.Run (ScriptEvent evt) [0x00000]

It was NOT printed as a "script error", but went to my local chat. I don't think the script named was even doing anything at the time (actually I take that back; it might have been in a timer designed to check whether another script's data needs to be reset or not and send a link message if so). I'm not sure if it affected the operation of the script (couldn't test just then), but I reset the script just in case.

Imaze Rhiano

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Join date: 27 Dec 2007

Posts: 39

01-29-2009 23:27

From: Hewee Zetkin

Ah, darn. I spoke a little too soon it seems. Just last night I got an error like this:

It was NOT printed as a "script error", but went to my local chat. I don't think the script named was even doing anything at the time (actually I take that back; it might have been in a timer designed to check whether another script's data needs to be reset or not and send a link message if so). I'm not sure if it affected the operation of the script (couldn't test just then), but I reset the script just in case.

If possible - please add report to JIRA (http://jira.secondlife.com/browse/SVC-2908) - and if possible - PLEASE: Provide script (object) that is causing problem.

For me MONO has been performing very well - never encountered any problems and I have been using it since release.

Hewee Zetkin

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Join date: 20 Jul 2006

Posts: 2,702

01-30-2009 10:09

From: Imaze Rhiano

If possible - please add report to JIRA (http://jira.secondlife.com/browse/SVC-2908) - and if possible - PLEASE: Provide script (object) that is causing problem.

For me MONO has been performing very well - never encountered any problems and I have been using it since release.

Can't. No reproduction steps, and I'm not at liberty to disclose the source code on this one. It's also the first time I've seen it, in a script I use all the time. So intermittent to say the least.

Chilly Charlton

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Join date: 15 Jun 2004

Posts: 483

Mono rocks

01-30-2009 14:29

Mono rocks

Krystal Wrigglesworth

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Join date: 21 Feb 2008

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01-30-2009 20:47

Thanks all for the replies... I think I'm going to go ahead and stick with Mono.

It greatly simplifies the script.

Ohh I am so dieing to show this puppy off... but got lots more files to upload to complete it. I think SL photographers are gonna flip... then animators

Phate Shepherd

Addicted to code

Join date: 14 Feb 2008

Posts: 96

01-30-2009 22:35

Thanks all for the replies... I think I'm going to go ahead and stick with Mono.

It greatly simplifies the script.

Is mono scripting stable?
Phate Shepherd Addicted to code Join date: 14 Feb 2008 Posts: 96	01-28-2009 10:57 I am scripting an item that really benefits from the expanded memory that mono provides for scripts. What are the cons to writing for Mono right now? I have heard there is a bug related to resetting mono scripts? The script is extremely cleanly coded, breaking it up into smaller non-mono sized chunks would deteriorate the interactive nature of the script.
Sindy Tsure Will script for shoes Join date: 18 Sep 2006 Posts: 4,103	01-28-2009 11:28 With them getting server-1.25 up on the production grid, I think they're declaring that Mono is finally more-or-less happy. Babbage Linden would really be the one to ask, though: http://wiki.secondlife.com/wiki/Office_hours#Babbage_Linden
Hewee Zetkin Registered User Join date: 20 Jul 2006 Posts: 2,702	01-28-2009 12:03 I haven't had any problems with it in the past couple months, and I've been compiling EVERYTHING to Mono. Beware of the "Wow! More memory!" pitfall though. It's not always true that you can fit in more data. Take a look for other threads discussing memory and mono on this forum for more info.
Darien Caldwell Registered User Join date: 12 Oct 2006 Posts: 3,127	01-28-2009 14:11 I've been selling complex scripted items compiled to mono since server 1.23 when it first came out. Was a bit rocky at first, but with 1.25 now out, it's pretty stable. I would recommend you use it. _____________________
Jack Abraham Lantern By Day Join date: 11 Apr 2008 Posts: 113	01-29-2009 07:28 Everything I script I do in Mono, and I've had no issues I can identify.
RobbyRacoon Olmstead Red warrior is hungry! Join date: 20 Sep 2006 Posts: 1,821	01-29-2009 07:43 Mono seems to be pretty stable as far as I can tell. There are still bugs, and still some perfectly valid LSL that won't compile to Mono, but overall I'd encourage you to keep using it. _____________________
Lear Cale wordy bugger Join date: 22 Aug 2007 Posts: 3,569	01-29-2009 09:01 No problems here, after the first few hiccups (e.g., super slow running state_exit handlers). It's as stable as anything else in SL. I highly recommend it, esp if you need more memory.
Yingzi Xue Registered User Join date: 11 Jun 2008 Posts: 144	01-29-2009 10:37 MONO is great. I haven't had a bit of trouble with my scripts. I haven't compiled an LSL script since the conversion and I'm not looking back. One thing to keep in mind... whenever you edit and save a MONO compiled script in your inventory it reverts back to LSL. You have to put it in an object and recompile it as MONO.
Ceera Murakami Texture Artist / Builder Join date: 9 Sep 2005 Posts: 7,750	01-29-2009 10:45 So far, I have only had one script fail to work correctly after converting it to Mono. The rest ran flawlessly. _____________________ Sorry, LL won't let me tell you where I sell my textures and where I offer my services as a sim builder. Ask me in-world.
Hewee Zetkin Registered User Join date: 20 Jul 2006 Posts: 2,702	01-29-2009 12:12 Ah, darn. I spoke a little too soon it seems. Just last night I got an error like this: From: someone objectName [scriptName]: System.NullReferenceException: Object reference not set to an instance of an object at LindenLab.SecondLife.LslUserScript.OnEvent (ScriptEvent evt) [0x00000]- at LindenLab.SecondLife.Script.Run (ScriptEvent evt) [0x00000] It was NOT printed as a "script error", but went to my local chat. I don't think the script named was even doing anything at the time (actually I take that back; it might have been in a timer designed to check whether another script's data needs to be reset or not and send a link message if so). I'm not sure if it affected the operation of the script (couldn't test just then), but I reset the script just in case.
Imaze Rhiano Registered User Join date: 27 Dec 2007 Posts: 39	01-29-2009 23:27 From: Hewee Zetkin Ah, darn. I spoke a little too soon it seems. Just last night I got an error like this: It was NOT printed as a "script error", but went to my local chat. I don't think the script named was even doing anything at the time (actually I take that back; it might have been in a timer designed to check whether another script's data needs to be reset or not and send a link message if so). I'm not sure if it affected the operation of the script (couldn't test just then), but I reset the script just in case. If possible - please add report to JIRA (http://jira.secondlife.com/browse/SVC-2908) - and if possible - PLEASE: Provide script (object) that is causing problem. For me MONO has been performing very well - never encountered any problems and I have been using it since release.
Hewee Zetkin Registered User Join date: 20 Jul 2006 Posts: 2,702	01-30-2009 10:09 From: Imaze Rhiano If possible - please add report to JIRA (http://jira.secondlife.com/browse/SVC-2908) - and if possible - PLEASE: Provide script (object) that is causing problem. For me MONO has been performing very well - never encountered any problems and I have been using it since release. Can't. No reproduction steps, and I'm not at liberty to disclose the source code on this one. It's also the first time I've seen it, in a script I use all the time. So intermittent to say the least.
Chilly Charlton Registered User Join date: 15 Jun 2004 Posts: 483	Mono rocks 01-30-2009 14:29 Mono rocks
Krystal Wrigglesworth Registered User Join date: 21 Feb 2008 Posts: 0	01-30-2009 20:47 Thanks all for the replies... I think I'm going to go ahead and stick with Mono. It greatly simplifies the script. Ohh I am so dieing to show this puppy off... but got lots more files to upload to complete it. I think SL photographers are gonna flip... then animators
Phate Shepherd Addicted to code Join date: 14 Feb 2008 Posts: 96	01-30-2009 22:35 Thanks all for the replies... I think I'm going to go ahead and stick with Mono. It greatly simplifies the script.

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