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Chaz Longstaff
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03-16-2008 12:55
Scripting related in that it applies to config cards and mod scripts in prim objects that one might want to make accessible to people on your project team....
When you have, say, a notecard in a prim, and in its properties, tick "Share with group", does anyone know *for sure* which group that means -- the group name showing on the prim, or the group tag that you happen to have active at the time becuase out of politeness you accepted a group invite for a friend's club and have forgotten that it became your active group immediately (which drives me nuts, but never mind that point :} ).
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Haplo Voss
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03-16-2008 13:19
As it implies... the group that an object is set to share with, will do so. Therfore if the object is set to "Heebeegebbie" Group, then it doesn't matter what group tag you are wearing at the time - the object cares about what it has in it's properties.
Note: Whatever group tag you are wearing at the time you create an object, is the group it will retain - so if you want it to be shared with a different group - use the "Set..." button in object properties next to "Group: whatever". That's what it's there for.
Did that make sense? LOL
Take care - Hap
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Chaz Longstaff
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03-16-2008 13:41
From: Haplo Voss As it implies... the group that an object is set to share with, will do so. Therfore if the object is set to "Heebeegebbie" Group, then it doesn't matter what group tag you are wearing at the time - the object cares about what it has in it's properties. Note: Whatever group tag you are wearing at the time you create an object, is the group it will retain - so if you want it to be shared with a different group - use the "Set..." button in object properties next to "Group: whatever". That's what it's there for. - Hap Hey Hap, Well, that's certainly one working theory I've had about it. Where did you find the documentation for this? Here's one thing I've noticed. Have the "Heebeegebbie" Group active on you. Rez a box that is full mod. Plop a notecard in it, full mod, share with group. Now have your friend Bob come along. Bob needs to edit that notecard, but the group that you and Bob share happens to be the "XYZ Group". So, set prim properties to XYZ group, and tell Bob to go crazy editing the notecard. He can't.
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Haplo Voss
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03-16-2008 14:05
Are you changing the group for *both* the object *and* the notecard?
I've never had any troubles with that as long as I do the above, and make sure that the person trying to do the editing has their tag changed to that group.
I don't have a documentation resource for you... it's just a couple of years making thinks in SL that I've observed this and use it. Not sure where you can get specific docs for it, sorry.
EDIT: Also, you might want to check his abilities within the group. If he can't edit objects, then he can't edit the notecard, even if he can see inside the box so to speak.
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Chaz Longstaff
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03-16-2008 14:26
From: Haplo Voss Are you changing the group for *both* the object *and* the notecard? I've never had any troubles with that as long as I do the above, and make sure that the person trying to do the editing has their tag changed to that group. I don't have a documentation resource for you... it's just a couple of years making thinks in SL that I've observed this and use it. Not sure where you can get specific docs for it, sorry. EDIT: Also, you might want to check his abilities within the group. If he can't edit objects, then he can't edit the notecard, even if he can see inside the box so to speak. >> Also, you might want to check his abilities within the group. If he can't edit objects, then he can't edit the notecard, even if he can see inside the box so to speak. No, no, all that checks out. He is a biz partner, has and needs full access to stuff. >> Are you changing the group for *both* the object *and* the notecard? In properties for a notecard, you can't set the group, nor see what group it thinks it is set to. As far as I know, anyway. All you can do is "Share with (editor: undefined) group."
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Haplo Voss
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03-16-2008 14:28
Agreed. I didn't really say that clearly, just making sure you shared the object, and was sharing the notecard as well.
I haven't made a group specific object in a few weeks. I will try this out and report my results.
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Haplo Voss
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03-16-2008 14:38
Ok, just tried it out. The only limiting factor I found w/ a friend of mine is that if he was not using the group tag of the object in question, then he could not open the notecard.
As long as he used the same group tag that the object was set to, he was able to open and edit the notecard.
Exact circumstances:
Object set Modify only, group set to XYZ, shared with group. Notecard inside was set to share w/group and Modify only. With a different group tag, friend not able to edit no matter what I did to the notecard. With the XYZ group tag on, he could in fact edit it. (as long as Mod is ticked)
So I'm wondering if your friend was using the group tag needed to edit the object perhaps?
Take care, Hap
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Chaz Longstaff
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03-16-2008 14:51
From: Haplo Voss Object set Modify only, group set to XYZ, shared with group. Notecard inside was set to share w/group and Modify only. With a different group tag, friend not able to edit no matter what I did to the notecard. With the XYZ group tag on, he could in fact edit it. (as long as Mod is ticked) Yep, that is by the book (well, the unwritten book anyway that we know of, hehe.) Now, leaving object rezzed as it is in world, set the object to another group that friend belongs to. Tell the friend to follow suit and change active tag to that group as well. *Then* have friend try to edit notecard.
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Haplo Voss
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03-16-2008 15:16
Well, I can't repeat the "bug" which you describe. I tried making three diff boxes with three different notecards made by three different people. In each case I tried out-of-group and it didn't work. As long as they were using same group as box, no problem Then I changed the group on each box - and it worked the same way. I know that SL perms can be flaky sometimes, but I dunno on this one.. it's working for me Wish I could have been more help! 
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