Impossible Things I Want to Do

heyas;

have some ideas for scripts i want to make and stuff. and.... near as i can figure from reading the scripting wiki, they're impossible. but since half the stuff they're saying is beyond my poor brain... i'll just ask the experts around here.


can i get the object the avatar is currently editing? without having to throw a script on that object that says 'hey, im being edited!'


can i create an object? you know... rez something? like a sphere.


can i copy an object? my OWN object. there's a button for it in the interface, so theoretically, there should be a script for it.


can i make a freekin egg shape? i've been reading the prim torture article... and the instructions leave a lot to be desired. i tried making a cylinder, tapering it, then changing it to a sphere (in the editor), but that obviously didn't taper my sphere. and then there's something about old shapes, and new shapes, and default forced values....


thanks, guys!

I've not make a one prim egg, but when making my faberge egg, used half an elongated sphere (actually 2 quarters of an elongated sphere) linked to half a regular sphere of the same circumference.

Unfortunately no.



Yes, but the object you want to rez has to be in the inventory of the scripted object. Then you can rez it with a call to llRezObject.



Sort of - when an object rezzes another object, if you have copy permission the original object stays in the inventory so you can rez multiple copies. But you can't copy them in inventory.



I think for an egg you need to use two half-spheres, with different sizes, stacked on top of each other - but I'm not such a great builder so there might be a better way

Without using a script in the object.... i don't think so..




llRezObject



With some use of llRezObject you can generate copies of an object contained in another objects inventory.




You can use a Torus with the hole closed and two spheres to cover the holes part in each side. If you want a sample, I cand send you one in about five hours.

lol! Yumi, maybe we are lost twins!

you can also make an egg by twisting a torus slightly, so that it forms a semi spherical cone. Then use a sphere to round out the bottom.

If you can get the script to read the name of the object the avatar is editing then you could fake it by re-naming an attached prim and having that say it.

I don't know how you'd workout if an object is being edited tho.

heyas;

so, to put it in a nutshell.... ain't no way in heck to build a hud attachment to enhance/replace the standard editing palette. right? gotcha.

as for the egg... i dont want "an egg"! :) i want a tapered sphere to build with, so i have an egg-shape with one prim, instead of having to build multiple spheres and torii and whatnot to get one shape.
what i meant was, can't i (or HOW can i, more helpfully) 'torture' a sphere to make it tapered?

Prim torture requires carefully planned and executed calls to llSetPrimitiveParams to make shapes do the impossible. The old Wiki contains a LibraryPrimTorture entry which might help you:

http://rpgstats.com/wiki/index.php?title=LibraryPrimTorture

If you don't mind it being a tad inaccurate, just use an ellipsoid (sphere stretched in one direction).

Regarding making a prim editor HUD, it is possible, but would be very clunky compared to the viewer's build tool. Making a HUD which adds some nice extensions to the build tool might come in handy, though.

I agree that replacing the build to = pht... but extending it with a hud would be very cool Like being able to easily set 100% transparency which you can do in a script but not the build tool. (Why don't they just remove such limits on the build tool?)

just to blather...

At a guess a hud could be used to rez a prim (from inventory) and then communicate with it to change it, and the script in the prim could autodelete it-self after recieving a command from the hud. The rezzed prim to be edited could name it-self and say it's name so that you could switch from editing one prim to another (the hud listening for the prims).

Perhaps the hud could be designed to send the sript to an object as well, so you could use it on things you have already built. Though as I recall you have to know the prim's PIN and I think you can only determine that via a script, so you'd have to manually put a script in each prim not rezzed by the hud anyway.

Nice goodies for this... automated prim tourcher, 100% tranparency, rotation tools (I dunno about you but sometimes getting a prim to rotate the direction you want is frustrating as hell for me), miniturizing techniques, 3 face and 5 face panels, ect...

For extending the building tools, it probably makes more sense to look at the types of things described here: http://jacek-antonelli.blogspot.com/search/label/xui

I'd have to guess that with the client source, it should now be possible to do a lot more of this sort of thing.