Welcome to the Second Life Forums Archive

These forums are CLOSED. Please visit the new forums HERE

Where do I find the "|" key?

Tegg Bode
FrootLoop Roo Overlord
Join date: 12 Jan 2007
Posts: 5,707
08-28-2008 03:24
I'm trying to enter an "or" comparison and buggered if I know where this key is, I been getting away so far with copy/pasting it from other places, but I'm sure it's somewhere easy?
_____________________
Level 38 Builder [Roo Clan]

Free Waterside & Roadside Vehicle Rez Platform, Desire (88, 17, 107)

Avatars & Roadside Seaview shops and vendorspace for rent, $2.00/prim/week, Desire (175,48,107)
Viktoria Dovgal
Join date: 29 Jul 2007
Posts: 3,593
08-28-2008 03:33
How on earth did you get that into the subject, copy/paste? (guess so, I read that and it didn't register :p) On many layouts, it's a shifted \. What sort of keyboard do you have?
Talon Brown
Slacker Punk
Join date: 17 May 2006
Posts: 352
08-28-2008 03:34
See the \ key? It should be to the left of the backspace key. Press shift+\ to get |.
Tegg Bode
FrootLoop Roo Overlord
Join date: 12 Jan 2007
Posts: 5,707
08-28-2008 03:53
Doh!
My 3 keyboards all show a break in the middle of the line sharing the "\" key.
I wonder if........

||||||||||||

WOOT! EUREKA! A bit of coloring in with a black pen on the key and now it works :)
_____________________
Level 38 Builder [Roo Clan]

Free Waterside & Roadside Vehicle Rez Platform, Desire (88, 17, 107)

Avatars & Roadside Seaview shops and vendorspace for rent, $2.00/prim/week, Desire (175,48,107)
Tegg Bode
FrootLoop Roo Overlord
Join date: 12 Jan 2007
Posts: 5,707
08-28-2008 03:56
From: Viktoria Dovgal
How on earth did you get that into the subject, copy/paste? (guess so, I read that and it didn't register :p) On many layouts, it's a shifted \. What sort of keyboard do you have?
I had to manually draw it on the screen with a pen :)
_____________________
Level 38 Builder [Roo Clan]

Free Waterside & Roadside Vehicle Rez Platform, Desire (88, 17, 107)

Avatars & Roadside Seaview shops and vendorspace for rent, $2.00/prim/week, Desire (175,48,107)
Viktoria Dovgal
Join date: 29 Jul 2007
Posts: 3,593
08-28-2008 04:29
From: Tegg Bode
My 3 keyboards all show a break in the middle of the line sharing the "\" key.

Oh, THAT. The little break is IBM's fault, they had a weird glyph fetish for the longest time.
Adz Childs
Artificial Boy
Join date: 6 Apr 2006
Posts: 865
08-28-2008 05:07
From: Viktoria Dovgal
... they had a weird glyph fetish for the longest time.
I'm disturbed by that, and that's saying alot.
_____________________
http://slnamewatch.com — Second Life Last Name Tracking — Email Alerts — Famous People Lookup — http://adz.secondlifekid.com/ — Artificial Boy — Personal Blog
From: Tofu Linden
Hmm, there's nothing really helpful there, but thanks for pasting.
Very Keynes
LSL is a Virus
Join date: 6 May 2006
Posts: 484
08-28-2008 05:15
One of my keyboards actually has an "Any" Key on it, not sure what it does or what scan code it returns but it solves the old "Press Any Key to continue" problem.
Jesse Barnett
500,000 scoville units
Join date: 21 May 2006
Posts: 4,160
08-28-2008 08:55
From: Very Keynes
One of my keyboards actually has an "Any" Key on it, not sure what it does or what scan code it returns but it solves the old "Press Any Key to continue" problem.

Wish I would have had that one. Would have saved me years of frustration.

And don't feel bad Tegg, it took me awhile to figure the "|" key out myself.
_____________________
I (who is a she not a he) reserve the right to exercise selective comprehension of the OP's question at anytime.
From: someone
I am still around, just no longer here. See you across the aisle. Hope LL burns in hell for archiving this forum
Talon Brown
Slacker Punk
Join date: 17 May 2006
Posts: 352
08-28-2008 11:59
This seems more like a Windows font issue than any problem with the actual symbol on the keyboard. If you type a | into DOS, a Windows command prompt session, and likely pretty much any other OS ever, you will see a character that has a break in the middle. (Yes, I am probably taking this response too seriously. :p )
Talarus Luan
Ancient Archaean Dragon
Join date: 18 Mar 2006
Posts: 4,831
08-28-2008 12:17
The reason why the "pipe" character, as it is called, is broken on many keyboards is because it looks like a capital "I", and whoever designed said keyboards originally set the standard to put that break in there to avoid confusing users.
Viktoria Dovgal
Join date: 29 Jul 2007
Posts: 3,593
08-28-2008 13:09
ASCII has a solid vertical bar since ancient times. IBM's EBCDIC had a broken bar. They deviated from tradition and used ASCII for the PC, but insisted on bringing their bar with them, never mind that EBCDIC had both by then. At least they left the lozenge behind.
Lear Cale
wordy bugger
Join date: 22 Aug 2007
Posts: 3,569
08-28-2008 13:15
From: Talarus Luan
The reason why the "pipe" character, as it is called, is broken on many keyboards is because it looks like a capital "I", and whoever designed said keyboards originally set the standard to put that break in there to avoid confusing users.


It's more properly called the "vertical bar". In UNIX shells (command line languages), it's used to create a "pipe" (streaming the output of one command into the input of another) and thus is called the "pipe character" by many nerds. But the vertical bar character preceded UNIX. DOS adopted this convention as well, while saddling us with the awkward backslashes for directories. Laywers probably made them do that. ;)

The ASCII vertical bar has been rendered as either solid or broken, depending on the terminal hardware or font, as long as I can remember (dating back to the 70's -- I can remember farther back, but was not using computers at the time!) There was no serious standardization. However, IBM keyboards and terminals tended to show it as a broken bar, and our Windows PC keyboards derive from that.

Now there is a Unicode character representing the broken bar, but that generally doesn't appear when you use the key that shows a broken vertical bar on your keyboard: instead you get the ASCII vertical bar key that might be broken or not, depending on the font that you use, but usually it's solid.

British keyboards reportedly have both keys, solid and broken vertical bars.

Go figure.
Strife Onizuka
Moonchild
Join date: 3 Mar 2004
Posts: 5,887
08-28-2008 14:43
From: Lear Cale
British keyboards reportedly have both keys, solid and broken vertical bars.

Probably requires a quadruple bucky to get at it.
_____________________
Truth is a river that is always splitting up into arms that reunite. Islanded between the arms, the inhabitants argue for a lifetime as to which is the main river.
- Cyril Connolly

Without the political will to find common ground, the continual friction of tactic and counter tactic, only creates suspicion and hatred and vengeance, and perpetuates the cycle of violence.
- James Nachtwey
Pale Spectre
Registered User
Join date: 2 Sep 2005
Posts: 586
08-28-2008 14:59
From: Lear Cale
British keyboards reportedly have both keys, solid and broken vertical bars.
They do indeed. Here's a few I did ealier. ;) |¦|¦|¦|¦|¦|¦|¦|¦|¦|¦|¦|¦|¦|¦|¦|¦|¦|¦|¦|

The key to the left of the '1' has three characters on it...
Unmodified: `
Shifted: ¬
Alt Gr (I kid you not): ¦
Strife Onizuka
Moonchild
Join date: 3 Mar 2004
Posts: 5,887
08-28-2008 15:20
From: Pale Spectre
They do indeed. Here's a few I did ealier. ;) |¦|¦|¦|¦|¦|¦|¦|¦|¦|¦|¦|¦|¦|¦|¦|¦|¦|¦|¦|

The key to the left of the '1' has three characters on it...
Unmodified: `
Shifted: ¬
Alt Gr (I kid you not): ¦


AltGr proudly brought to you by IBM.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AltGr_key
_____________________
Truth is a river that is always splitting up into arms that reunite. Islanded between the arms, the inhabitants argue for a lifetime as to which is the main river.
- Cyril Connolly

Without the political will to find common ground, the continual friction of tactic and counter tactic, only creates suspicion and hatred and vengeance, and perpetuates the cycle of violence.
- James Nachtwey
Very Keynes
LSL is a Virus
Join date: 6 May 2006
Posts: 484
08-28-2008 15:37
interesting, I have an Alt Gr key but it works just like the Alt key. What code Page do you have loaded Pale?
Pale Spectre
Registered User
Join date: 2 Sep 2005
Posts: 586
08-29-2008 08:49
Um... 850?

But is it a code-page thing, or a keyboard thing?

Some links for all of those with a keyboard fetish...




...the Chinese keyboards look the most fun! :D