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SuezanneC Baskerville

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05-21-2005 08:53

Might we be able to obtain a pencil sketch rendering in SL using the technique described at HijackGL--Non-Invasive Extensibility for Graphics Applications ?

It might produce an SL that looks sort of like:

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Strife Onizuka

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05-21-2005 09:25

wrong forum?
or are you suggesting something wicked

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Strife Onizuka

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05-21-2005 10:09

The plugins don't handle most of the more advanced rendering features that SL uses.
but here are some screen shots i managed to get.
Snapshot_004.png
Snapshot_005.png

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- Cyril Connolly

Without the political will to find common ground, the continual friction of tactic and counter tactic, only creates suspicion and hatred and vengeance, and perpetuates the cycle of violence.
- James Nachtwey

Keknehv Psaltery

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05-21-2005 11:47

Wow, this stuff is pretty crazy. It looks like it would be a cool thing to play around with, but I can't get it to work.

Nice find!

Csven Concord

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05-21-2005 12:39

nice find. thanks for sharing

SuezanneC Baskerville

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Thanks, Strife!

05-21-2005 12:48

Strife, I think the scripting forum is the most approprate forum for this, since this is where the programmers hang, and you have shown me to be correct by getting the pencil sketch output you presented.

It would be totally neat to see the SL world in that format.

As to whether I was suggesting something wicked, I don't see the harm in this.

Was it just a matter of following the instructions or did it involve a bunch of additional brainpower dealing with problems?

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Csven Concord

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05-21-2005 13:11

having trouble getting it to hijack the gl stream. bummer.

Keknehv Psaltery

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05-21-2005 14:05

From what I can tell, he may have just been lucky. There aren't verbose error messages that tell you when you mess up and how.

It may just be that he has the right configuration for it. Would someone who got it to work mind posting up their specs and SL settings?

Csven Concord

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05-21-2005 14:51

was hoping that tp'ing would equate to starting up a new map in Q3. might have to load Quake to see if that even works...

Strife Onizuka

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05-21-2005 17:10

turn off every nice rendering feature
including fast vertex for av's

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Truth is a river that is always splitting up into arms that reunite. Islanded between the arms, the inhabitants argue for a lifetime as to which is the main river.
- Cyril Connolly

Without the political will to find common ground, the continual friction of tactic and counter tactic, only creates suspicion and hatred and vengeance, and perpetuates the cycle of violence.
- James Nachtwey

Jeffrey Gomez

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Join date: 11 Jun 2004

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05-21-2005 17:11

Hey, that's pretty nifty. Nice find!

If there are other rendering packages out there that work in this manner, I might just get my wish vis a vis my complaining about how SL renders stuff.

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Logan Bauer

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Join date: 13 Jun 2004

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Fun stuff!

05-21-2005 17:14

I got it to work. Very oddly, if I click on a shortcut to secondlife while the files are in my Secondlife directory, it says SL is already running. However, right before I gave up, I found out that if I run the actual exe program instead of the shortcut, it works!

Screenshots attached. For anyone else playing around with this, I found 2 "tips" - If you hit Scroll lock and are about to take a screenshot with printscreen, if you hold alt, it will make some prims visible that aren't already. Also, the best way to "trick" it into rendering objects I found was this - select and edit an object so it's highlighted and shows the drag-arrows. then hit scroll-lock - for about 1/2 a second as it switches to whichever renderer, it will draw the outline-highlighting and "trace" the objects" Other than that, it looks pretty neat but still can't get it to draw much more than the AV, trees, and a few surrounding prims.

Csven Concord

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05-21-2005 23:29

"including fast vertex for av's"

did the trick. thanks.

Huns Valen

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05-24-2005 09:28

does not function, not even the sample GL apps :/

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Jeffrey Gomez

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05-24-2005 15:02

Hit Scroll Lock to enable, Huns. I made the same mistake.

Is the console appearing, at least?

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Logan Bauer

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05-25-2005 15:51

Only one of the sample apps functioned for me, the atlantis one did not.

Csven Concord

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05-29-2005 09:13

i needed to grab the GLUT32.dll off the net and plunk it in the folder with the Atlantis demo to get it to work. just in case you didn't try that...

Pencil Sketch Rendering for Second Life?
SuezanneC Baskerville Forums Rock! Join date: 22 Dec 2003 Posts: 14,229	05-21-2005 08:53 Might we be able to obtain a pencil sketch rendering in SL using the technique described at HijackGL--Non-Invasive Extensibility for Graphics Applications ? It might produce an SL that looks sort of like: _____________________ - So long to these forums, the vBulletin forums that used to be at forums.secondlife.com. I will miss them. I can be found on the web by searching for "SuezanneC Baskerville", or go to http://www.google.com/profiles/suezanne - http://lindenlab.tribe.net/ created on 11/19/03. Members: Ben, Catherine, Colin, Cory, Dan, Doug, Jim, Philip, Phoenix, Richard, Robin, and Ryan -
Strife Onizuka Moonchild Join date: 3 Mar 2004 Posts: 5,887	05-21-2005 09:25 wrong forum? or are you suggesting something wicked _____________________ Truth is a river that is always splitting up into arms that reunite. Islanded between the arms, the inhabitants argue for a lifetime as to which is the main river. - Cyril Connolly Without the political will to find common ground, the continual friction of tactic and counter tactic, only creates suspicion and hatred and vengeance, and perpetuates the cycle of violence. - James Nachtwey
Strife Onizuka Moonchild Join date: 3 Mar 2004 Posts: 5,887	05-21-2005 10:09 The plugins don't handle most of the more advanced rendering features that SL uses. but here are some screen shots i managed to get. Snapshot_004.png Snapshot_005.png _____________________ Truth is a river that is always splitting up into arms that reunite. Islanded between the arms, the inhabitants argue for a lifetime as to which is the main river. - Cyril Connolly Without the political will to find common ground, the continual friction of tactic and counter tactic, only creates suspicion and hatred and vengeance, and perpetuates the cycle of violence. - James Nachtwey
Keknehv Psaltery Hacker Join date: 11 Apr 2005 Posts: 1,185	05-21-2005 11:47 Wow, this stuff is pretty crazy. It looks like it would be a cool thing to play around with, but I can't get it to work. Nice find!
Csven Concord * Join date: 19 Mar 2005 Posts: 1,015	05-21-2005 12:39 nice find. thanks for sharing
SuezanneC Baskerville Forums Rock! Join date: 22 Dec 2003 Posts: 14,229	Thanks, Strife! 05-21-2005 12:48 Strife, I think the scripting forum is the most approprate forum for this, since this is where the programmers hang, and you have shown me to be correct by getting the pencil sketch output you presented. It would be totally neat to see the SL world in that format. As to whether I was suggesting something wicked, I don't see the harm in this. Was it just a matter of following the instructions or did it involve a bunch of additional brainpower dealing with problems? _____________________ - So long to these forums, the vBulletin forums that used to be at forums.secondlife.com. I will miss them. I can be found on the web by searching for "SuezanneC Baskerville", or go to http://www.google.com/profiles/suezanne - http://lindenlab.tribe.net/ created on 11/19/03. Members: Ben, Catherine, Colin, Cory, Dan, Doug, Jim, Philip, Phoenix, Richard, Robin, and Ryan -
Csven Concord * Join date: 19 Mar 2005 Posts: 1,015	05-21-2005 13:11 having trouble getting it to hijack the gl stream. bummer.
Keknehv Psaltery Hacker Join date: 11 Apr 2005 Posts: 1,185	05-21-2005 14:05 From what I can tell, he may have just been lucky. There aren't verbose error messages that tell you when you mess up and how. It may just be that he has the right configuration for it. Would someone who got it to work mind posting up their specs and SL settings?
Csven Concord * Join date: 19 Mar 2005 Posts: 1,015	05-21-2005 14:51 was hoping that tp'ing would equate to starting up a new map in Q3. might have to load Quake to see if that even works...
Strife Onizuka Moonchild Join date: 3 Mar 2004 Posts: 5,887	05-21-2005 17:10 turn off every nice rendering feature including fast vertex for av's _____________________ Truth is a river that is always splitting up into arms that reunite. Islanded between the arms, the inhabitants argue for a lifetime as to which is the main river. - Cyril Connolly Without the political will to find common ground, the continual friction of tactic and counter tactic, only creates suspicion and hatred and vengeance, and perpetuates the cycle of violence. - James Nachtwey
Jeffrey Gomez Cubed™ Join date: 11 Jun 2004 Posts: 3,522	05-21-2005 17:11 Hey, that's pretty nifty. Nice find! If there are other rendering packages out there that work in this manner, I might just get my wish vis a vis my complaining about how SL renders stuff. _____________________ ---
Logan Bauer Inept Adept Join date: 13 Jun 2004 Posts: 2,237	Fun stuff! 05-21-2005 17:14 I got it to work. Very oddly, if I click on a shortcut to secondlife while the files are in my Secondlife directory, it says SL is already running. However, right before I gave up, I found out that if I run the actual exe program instead of the shortcut, it works! Screenshots attached. For anyone else playing around with this, I found 2 "tips" - If you hit Scroll lock and are about to take a screenshot with printscreen, if you hold alt, it will make some prims visible that aren't already. Also, the best way to "trick" it into rendering objects I found was this - select and edit an object so it's highlighted and shows the drag-arrows. then hit scroll-lock - for about 1/2 a second as it switches to whichever renderer, it will draw the outline-highlighting and "trace" the objects" Other than that, it looks pretty neat but still can't get it to draw much more than the AV, trees, and a few surrounding prims.
Csven Concord * Join date: 19 Mar 2005 Posts: 1,015	05-21-2005 23:29 "including fast vertex for av's" did the trick. thanks.
Huns Valen Don't PM me here. Join date: 3 May 2003 Posts: 2,749	05-24-2005 09:28 does not function, not even the sample GL apps :/ _____________________ [ huns? \|\| words \|\| 1TBS KREW \|\| VHI Aircraft \|\| Whitepaper on Aircraft Physics ] Make yourself and your objects immune to llPushObject().
Jeffrey Gomez Cubed™ Join date: 11 Jun 2004 Posts: 3,522	05-24-2005 15:02 Hit Scroll Lock to enable, Huns. I made the same mistake. Is the console appearing, at least? _____________________ ---
Logan Bauer Inept Adept Join date: 13 Jun 2004 Posts: 2,237	05-25-2005 15:51 Only one of the sample apps functioned for me, the atlantis one did not.
Csven Concord * Join date: 19 Mar 2005 Posts: 1,015	05-29-2005 09:13 i needed to grab the GLUT32.dll off the net and plunk it in the folder with the Atlantis demo to get it to work. just in case you didn't try that...

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