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Sho Iuga

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02-28-2008 14:03

Why do some attachment scripts work on "no script" land, like the linden roads t.ex. ?

Well, I found one hack for that: making your HUD/attachment a vehicle.
Are thre any other options?

Meade Paravane

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02-28-2008 14:08

I don't think making it a vehicle is what does it - calling llTakeControls is what does it. Most vehicles use that so that's why they usually work on no-script land...

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Sho Iuga

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02-28-2008 14:12

oops, thanks. So takecontrol is it. outch, did both in testing and though it was the vehicle part. My bad.
anyway is this the only option?

Meade Paravane

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02-28-2008 14:29

Only one I know of... (edit: in other words: maybe)

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Hewee Zetkin

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02-28-2008 15:11

Also being above a certain height, I believe. Something like 40-50m above ground. There might also be an absolute elevation requirement. Can't remember.

Sho Iuga

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02-28-2008 15:50

nope, height is not a requierement.
Otherwise those AO's wouldnt work on no script land
and vehicles wouldnt run on linden roads or waterway.

And it seems it has to be a vehicle. My little script (in a HUD) didnt work by just taking controls. It had to be vehicle as well to work.

Hewee Zetkin

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02-28-2008 16:31

From: Sho Iuga

nope, height is not a requierement.
Otherwise those AO's wouldnt work on no script land
and vehicles wouldnt run on linden roads or waterway.

I think you miss my meaning. On top of the llTakeControls() exception, I believe scripts will ALSO run if they are over a certain height (above ground and/or z = 0).

Nika Talaj

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02-28-2008 16:44

Scripts will run on noscript land if they have obtained permission to take control (via llTakeControl) OR if they are in an object which is over 70m above ground level.

This is what enables AOs, flight assists, mystitool, and yes vehicles, to continue to work in noscript zones. If this feature were to be eliminated (as requested in SVC-556), nearly all boating in SL would stop working, since scripting is turned off on the large Linden water sim blocks that are best for it.

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Hewee Zetkin

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02-28-2008 18:26

Hmm. Maybe we can get the water height set to over 70m deep....

Gabriele Graves

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02-28-2008 19:44

It used to be that if you started a timer on script-enabled land then it would continue to work on no-script land - don't know if that is still the case - I would guess probably as most AO's use a timer.

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02-29-2008 00:06

From: Gabriele Graves

It used to be that if you started a timer on script-enabled land then it would continue to work on no-script land - don't know if that is still the case - I would guess probably as most AO's use a timer.

Actually, it's the "take controls" in the AO that keep it working.

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Day Oh

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02-29-2008 00:11

Here's a tougher question, is it possible to prevent scripts from running? I mean, even if it takes controls.

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02-29-2008 00:58

From: Day Oh

Here's a tougher question, is it possible to prevent scripts from running? I mean, even if it takes controls.

currently, no, unless you kill it via top scripts.

PS please don't do that.

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Squirrel Wood

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02-29-2008 01:57

All scripts stop when they are turned off on estate level methinks.

Day Oh

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02-29-2008 03:06

Taking controls defeats even the estate setting, and "Disable Selected" in Top Scripts just plain doesn't do anything, apparently p;

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02-29-2008 12:50

::blink:: that's not good...

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Hewee Zetkin

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02-29-2008 13:31

My experience has been that scripts can actually be shut off from the Top Scripts window. It has been a long time since I had to do that though.

I can remember sitting around in-world a couple times when the Lindens had shut off logins and disabled scripts so they could take care of grid attacks. We did wonder why a few scripts still seemed to be working in a limited fashion. It didn't seem very healthy.

scripts on no script land?
Sho Iuga Registered User Join date: 6 Jun 2007 Posts: 35	02-28-2008 14:03 Why do some attachment scripts work on "no script" land, like the linden roads t.ex. ? Well, I found one hack for that: making your HUD/attachment a vehicle. Are thre any other options?
Meade Paravane Hedgehog Join date: 21 Nov 2006 Posts: 4,845	02-28-2008 14:08 I don't think making it a vehicle is what does it - calling llTakeControls is what does it. Most vehicles use that so that's why they usually work on no-script land... _____________________ Tired of shouting clubs and lucky chairs? Vote for llParcelSay!!! - Go here: http://jira.secondlife.com/browse/SVC-1224 - If you see "if you were logged in.." on the left, click it and log in - Click the "Vote for it" link on the left
Sho Iuga Registered User Join date: 6 Jun 2007 Posts: 35	02-28-2008 14:12 oops, thanks. So takecontrol is it. outch, did both in testing and though it was the vehicle part. My bad. anyway is this the only option?
Meade Paravane Hedgehog Join date: 21 Nov 2006 Posts: 4,845	02-28-2008 14:29 Only one I know of... (edit: in other words: maybe) _____________________ Tired of shouting clubs and lucky chairs? Vote for llParcelSay!!! - Go here: http://jira.secondlife.com/browse/SVC-1224 - If you see "if you were logged in.." on the left, click it and log in - Click the "Vote for it" link on the left
Hewee Zetkin Registered User Join date: 20 Jul 2006 Posts: 2,702	02-28-2008 15:11 Also being above a certain height, I believe. Something like 40-50m above ground. There might also be an absolute elevation requirement. Can't remember.
Sho Iuga Registered User Join date: 6 Jun 2007 Posts: 35	02-28-2008 15:50 nope, height is not a requierement. Otherwise those AO's wouldnt work on no script land and vehicles wouldnt run on linden roads or waterway. And it seems it has to be a vehicle. My little script (in a HUD) didnt work by just taking controls. It had to be vehicle as well to work.
Hewee Zetkin Registered User Join date: 20 Jul 2006 Posts: 2,702	02-28-2008 16:31 From: Sho Iuga nope, height is not a requierement. Otherwise those AO's wouldnt work on no script land and vehicles wouldnt run on linden roads or waterway. I think you miss my meaning. On top of the llTakeControls() exception, I believe scripts will ALSO run if they are over a certain height (above ground and/or z = 0).
Nika Talaj now you see her ... Join date: 2 Jan 2007 Posts: 5,449	02-28-2008 16:44 Scripts will run on noscript land if they have obtained permission to take control (via llTakeControl) OR if they are in an object which is over 70m above ground level. This is what enables AOs, flight assists, mystitool, and yes vehicles, to continue to work in noscript zones. If this feature were to be eliminated (as requested in SVC-556), nearly all boating in SL would stop working, since scripting is turned off on the large Linden water sim blocks that are best for it. .
Hewee Zetkin Registered User Join date: 20 Jul 2006 Posts: 2,702	02-28-2008 18:26 Hmm. Maybe we can get the water height set to over 70m deep....
Gabriele Graves Always and Forever, FULL Join date: 23 Apr 2007 Posts: 6,205	02-28-2008 19:44 It used to be that if you started a timer on script-enabled land then it would continue to work on no-script land - don't know if that is still the case - I would guess probably as most AO's use a timer. _____________________ Trout Rating: I'm giving you an 8.2 on the Troutchter Earth-Movement Slut Scale. You are an amazing, enchanting woman, and, when the situation calls for it, a slut of the very best sort. Congratulations and shame on you!
Beezle Warburton =o.O= Join date: 10 Nov 2006 Posts: 1,169	02-29-2008 00:06 From: Gabriele Graves It used to be that if you started a timer on script-enabled land then it would continue to work on no-script land - don't know if that is still the case - I would guess probably as most AO's use a timer. Actually, it's the "take controls" in the AO that keep it working. _____________________ Though this be madness, yet there is method in't. -- William Shakespeare Warburton's Whimsies: In SL Apez.biz
Day Oh Registered User Join date: 3 Feb 2007 Posts: 1,257	02-29-2008 00:11 Here's a tougher question, is it possible to prevent scripts from running? I mean, even if it takes controls. _____________________
Void Singer Int vSelf = Sing(void); Join date: 24 Sep 2005 Posts: 6,973	02-29-2008 00:58 From: Day Oh Here's a tougher question, is it possible to prevent scripts from running? I mean, even if it takes controls. currently, no, unless you kill it via top scripts. PS please don't do that. _____________________ \| \| . "Cat-Like Typing Detected" \| . This post may contain errors in logic, spelling, and \| . grammar known to the SL populace to cause confusion \| \| - Please Use PHP tags when posting scripts/code, Thanks. \| - Can't See PHP or URL Tags Correctly? Check Out This Link... \| -
Squirrel Wood Nuteater. Beware! Join date: 14 Jun 2006 Posts: 471	02-29-2008 01:57 All scripts stop when they are turned off on estate level methinks.
Day Oh Registered User Join date: 3 Feb 2007 Posts: 1,257	02-29-2008 03:06 Taking controls defeats even the estate setting, and "Disable Selected" in Top Scripts just plain doesn't do anything, apparently p; _____________________
Void Singer Int vSelf = Sing(void); Join date: 24 Sep 2005 Posts: 6,973	02-29-2008 12:50 ::blink:: that's not good... _____________________ \| \| . "Cat-Like Typing Detected" \| . This post may contain errors in logic, spelling, and \| . grammar known to the SL populace to cause confusion \| \| - Please Use PHP tags when posting scripts/code, Thanks. \| - Can't See PHP or URL Tags Correctly? Check Out This Link... \| -
Hewee Zetkin Registered User Join date: 20 Jul 2006 Posts: 2,702	02-29-2008 13:31 My experience has been that scripts can actually be shut off from the Top Scripts window. It has been a long time since I had to do that though. I can remember sitting around in-world a couple times when the Lindens had shut off logins and disabled scripts so they could take care of grid attacks. We did wonder why a few scripts still seemed to be working in a limited fashion. It didn't seem very healthy.

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