Learn/Teach Scripting Easier

This is a new feature request to facilitate teaching and learning scripting in SL. Please vote on this issue! http://jira.secondlife.com/browse/VWR-4961 (vote on lower left side of page)

Interesting idea but I don't see LL doing it. Seems like they'd have to add a lot of new stuff underneath to make it work and a lot of it might not have use elsewhere - it might be too low bang-for-the-buck for them to go after.

You might be able to sorta do this already, without changing SL. If the 'teacher' had a video capture system grabbing SL and a streaming web server, they could pipe the capture to the stream and set the parcel they're on to show that as the video media. Anybody else there on that parcel could see whatever was on the teachers screen...

There's other desktop sharing software that might allow this too, though you'd have to experiment to see how well they interact with SL's graphics rendering.

quick useles question from me, but seems like a good place to ask

if someone has a scripted build window type teachin tool (big prim skined with clickable buttons) please shoot me a copy or tell me where you seen one.. tia

teaching someone to script is very difficult, but teaching someone to use the Build Menu without visuals adds another hurdle to the race.. i been kinda lookin for a build menu object to try and help ppl in the Sboxes for a while.. even toyed with the idea of doing it myself, i started creating all the textures but then thought someone had to of done this already and god almighty and the 10$l uploads would have killed me :/

good luck and happy creatin

upload 1 texture and use transparent prims over it

or upload 1 texture and offset it so the buttons line up on your prims

Well, they were working on html on a prim, so the graphical side is almost there. Just a matter of synching that up to a text file (script of notecard).

So, they have bits and peices, but would still be lots of work to implement it.

Although, if they do release HTML on a prim, someone could make a page that has a graphical interface like the script window.

You mean INTERACTIVE HTML on a prim? I thought the plan was always to simply display graphics of an HTML page like a texture. I had no idea it was going to incorporate browser input functions. You sure about that?

most of those button textures are already contained in your sl folder if you look hard enough

yea they have been working on it, for what 2 years maby more? dont hold your breath

Well, they talked about upgrading the physics engine for something like 3 years, and they are. So im sure it will happen. Is there an entry in jira about the html on a prim?

Also, the internal web browser in the client was part of the process.
And the graphical side of the html on a prim has been tested (uBrowser http://www.ubrowser.com/ ), it just was not added to the client stuff, and as far as i remember hearing, no plans on how to interact with it.

But with Windlight and Havok4, I'm sure its on the backburner. So probably once those are released and stable (well, under SL's terms), maybe they will continue with html on a prim.

they were talking about a new physics engine back in 03... and I remember in 04 hearing mention of html on a prim... but that stalled mostly because of privacy issues at the time. html on a prim means every person viewing it would have to connect to the webserver that was it's source, thus exposing the users IP. and while the same exposure shows in the media controls for land, their planned implementation for this was not to limit it to land controls, nor to have it as an optional off feature (that was later discussed). then there was the possibility of having to secure their own content against web threats, in the shared environment, and at that point it pretty much got dropped in the circular file.

the usefulness of being able to see someone else editing a file is extremely limited, especially for new inexperienced users, and that's just how LL decides on new features... will it be attractive to the average/new user. if not... it's only luck to get a feature request in.

Hmmm seems like a LOT of work for limited payoff. I do empathize with those trying to teach LSL inworld ... must be incredibly difficult. But really, it's a very easy scripting language, and the tutorials on the wikis are pretty good.

If I were going for a learning assist for LSL, I would still go self-paced. I'd want a Camtasia flash of an LSL editor session (stop/start so the user could just step thru it themselves while watching), complete with ducking out to wikis for reference, then a machinima with voiceover (like Torley's) showing the inworld cut/paste and final debugging.
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