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Jerod Bagley

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03-02-2008 15:12

When I add a sit target to an object I would also like to be able to control what happens when the "Stand Up" command is triggered. When avatars stand up, they sometimes do so in a normal sort of motion, standing in front of the object upon which they were standing, but in other cases they seem to stand right on top of the sit target or end up hanging in the air with their legs scrambling for footing. I have not been able to find information about how the "Stand Up' action is controlled. Can someone give me some pointers?

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03-02-2008 16:16

the usual trick is build sit animations that are 'behind' their starting position, and then push the sit target forward. the reasoning is that the av will get up at the sit target, if that's in the object you can get varying effects, like the av standing on the object, being shoved in one direction or another (becuase of interpentration of the av with a solid) or getting stuck (the falling anim)...

H4 has a new twist in that it currently pushes avs in the positive X direction of the object when they get up, there's a jira on it.

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Atashi Toshihiko

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03-02-2008 18:35

From: Void Singer

H4 has a new twist in that it currently pushes avs in the positive X direction of the object when they get up, there's a jira on it.

Is this twist only in H4? I've started to notice it on the island where I do most of my work, and I'm 99% certain that island is not on the H4 early adopter program. It's just been in the last couple days, maybe since the last rolling restarts.

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03-02-2008 19:25

I haven't been building anything with seats recently, so haven't noticed... my understanding was it's only H4 sims, but with LL who knows

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Lost Oddfellow

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03-02-2008 19:45

I have been trying to deal with a similar problem where upon standing up from any piece of furniture in my home an avatar will be propelled through the roof of a room.
it doesn't matter weather there is room in the room for the AV they just go through the roof the moment they stand up.
If there is an easy way around this beyond removing the roof or making it phantom, I would be very grateful to hear it.

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03-02-2008 23:05

if you have access to the scripts in the furniture you can make it go phantom for a few secs or use different tweaked anims... if not, your only other option would bbe to make the whole thing phantom, it'll still work for sitting, but if you don't sit you'll be able to walk through it... the perils of premade furniture....

it's not always the makers fault, different sized avs can end up with different reations sometimes.

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Hewee Zetkin

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03-03-2008 01:28

If you provide some kind of programmatic unsit (like if they touch the furniture to unsit themselves), you could use llSetLinkPrimitiveParams() to put them in a convenient location (and animation...) before the unsit. Probably not an applicable solution, but I thought I'd mention it in case you can make it work somehow.

Darien Caldwell

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03-03-2008 12:51

On an added note, with the latest H4 refresh, LL rolled back that unsit change, or so they say. I'm not 100% convinced it's back how it originally was, but it's not as bad. And yes, that was only on H4. If you are seeing some push from your sitting device in H1, it's probably a case of the rocketing Avatars they were trying to fix in the first place

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Esmee Isbell

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jira link addresses this ... please take a look

03-04-2008 10:08

Please review this related jira issue regarding the need for implementing a new function: llUnsitTarget(); and VOTE if meaningful to you. Thanks

http://jira.secondlife.com/browse/SVC-886

Controlling the "Stand Up" action
Jerod Bagley Registered User Join date: 25 Nov 2007 Posts: 2	03-02-2008 15:12 When I add a sit target to an object I would also like to be able to control what happens when the "Stand Up" command is triggered. When avatars stand up, they sometimes do so in a normal sort of motion, standing in front of the object upon which they were standing, but in other cases they seem to stand right on top of the sit target or end up hanging in the air with their legs scrambling for footing. I have not been able to find information about how the "Stand Up' action is controlled. Can someone give me some pointers?
Void Singer Int vSelf = Sing(void); Join date: 24 Sep 2005 Posts: 6,973	03-02-2008 16:16 the usual trick is build sit animations that are 'behind' their starting position, and then push the sit target forward. the reasoning is that the av will get up at the sit target, if that's in the object you can get varying effects, like the av standing on the object, being shoved in one direction or another (becuase of interpentration of the av with a solid) or getting stuck (the falling anim)... H4 has a new twist in that it currently pushes avs in the positive X direction of the object when they get up, there's a jira on it. _____________________ \| \| . "Cat-Like Typing Detected" \| . This post may contain errors in logic, spelling, and \| . grammar known to the SL populace to cause confusion \| \| - Please Use PHP tags when posting scripts/code, Thanks. \| - Can't See PHP or URL Tags Correctly? Check Out This Link... \| -
Atashi Toshihiko Frequently Befuddled Join date: 7 Dec 2006 Posts: 1,423	03-02-2008 18:35 From: Void Singer H4 has a new twist in that it currently pushes avs in the positive X direction of the object when they get up, there's a jira on it. Is this twist only in H4? I've started to notice it on the island where I do most of my work, and I'm 99% certain that island is not on the H4 early adopter program. It's just been in the last couple days, maybe since the last rolling restarts. -Atashi _____________________ Visit Atashi's Art and Oddities Store and the Waikiti Motor Works at beautiful Waikiti.
Void Singer Int vSelf = Sing(void); Join date: 24 Sep 2005 Posts: 6,973	03-02-2008 19:25 I haven't been building anything with seats recently, so haven't noticed... my understanding was it's only H4 sims, but with LL who knows _____________________ \| \| . "Cat-Like Typing Detected" \| . This post may contain errors in logic, spelling, and \| . grammar known to the SL populace to cause confusion \| \| - Please Use PHP tags when posting scripts/code, Thanks. \| - Can't See PHP or URL Tags Correctly? Check Out This Link... \| -
Lost Oddfellow Registered User Join date: 15 Sep 2005 Posts: 33	03-02-2008 19:45 I have been trying to deal with a similar problem where upon standing up from any piece of furniture in my home an avatar will be propelled through the roof of a room. it doesn't matter weather there is room in the room for the AV they just go through the roof the moment they stand up. If there is an easy way around this beyond removing the roof or making it phantom, I would be very grateful to hear it. _____________________ I've made my statement and I stand by it, but I could be wrong.
Void Singer Int vSelf = Sing(void); Join date: 24 Sep 2005 Posts: 6,973	03-02-2008 23:05 if you have access to the scripts in the furniture you can make it go phantom for a few secs or use different tweaked anims... if not, your only other option would bbe to make the whole thing phantom, it'll still work for sitting, but if you don't sit you'll be able to walk through it... the perils of premade furniture.... it's not always the makers fault, different sized avs can end up with different reations sometimes. _____________________ \| \| . "Cat-Like Typing Detected" \| . This post may contain errors in logic, spelling, and \| . grammar known to the SL populace to cause confusion \| \| - Please Use PHP tags when posting scripts/code, Thanks. \| - Can't See PHP or URL Tags Correctly? Check Out This Link... \| -
Hewee Zetkin Registered User Join date: 20 Jul 2006 Posts: 2,702	03-03-2008 01:28 If you provide some kind of programmatic unsit (like if they touch the furniture to unsit themselves), you could use llSetLinkPrimitiveParams() to put them in a convenient location (and animation...) before the unsit. Probably not an applicable solution, but I thought I'd mention it in case you can make it work somehow.
Darien Caldwell Registered User Join date: 12 Oct 2006 Posts: 3,127	03-03-2008 12:51 On an added note, with the latest H4 refresh, LL rolled back that unsit change, or so they say. I'm not 100% convinced it's back how it originally was, but it's not as bad. And yes, that was only on H4. If you are seeing some push from your sitting device in H1, it's probably a case of the rocketing Avatars they were trying to fix in the first place _____________________
Esmee Isbell Registered User Join date: 21 Jun 2006 Posts: 9	jira link addresses this ... please take a look 03-04-2008 10:08 Please review this related jira issue regarding the need for implementing a new function: llUnsitTarget(); and VOTE if meaningful to you. Thanks http://jira.secondlife.com/browse/SVC-886

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