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Drongle McMahon

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02-20-2009 15:34

I have just been somewhere on mainland where there is a 16sqm hole going down 100m below the surrounding ground level. This is a normal +/-4m terraform sim. I have seen patches of bug pits this deep, but this one is isolated and looks intentional. Can this be done deliberately? With a script?

Cherry Hainsworth

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02-20-2009 16:02

I'm curious! I can only suppose it's an 'exploit' as going 100m underground just puts you in dark-blue boringness normally. Did it look like the ground went right down the sides of the hole? If so, the ground mesh must have been distorted somehow, mustn't it?

I've been to a couple of establishments that claimed to be built underground, but they were just camera tricks. I have my camera constraints turned off.

As a comment of slight relevance, you can place objects underground. Comes in useful sometimes.

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02-21-2009 20:39

might have been a legacy sim, that had unusual terraform limits (a few used to have +/-40, and few were +/-100, there used to be a list but I've lost the link), a private sim (estate manages don't have to obey the limits (I think?), or it could be related to this jira issue...
https://jira.secondlife.com/browse/SVC-2959

ETA: I'm guessing the surrounding land the OP was discussing was 100m+ I don't think you can go below the sim floor even using a custom raw file for the sim layout. (but I could be wrong)

PSedit: the mentioned list of (mainland) sims with odd terraform limits appears to have been wiped out (was in the knowledge base) the only two I could dig up names for were 'Da Boom' and 'Immaculate' (both +/-40)... there were about 2 dozen... no clue if their odd limits still apply

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02-21-2009 23:47

I vaguely remember someone a year or two ago mentioning a goofy technique to achieve something like this but wasn't interested enough to remember it.

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Drongle McMahon

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02-22-2009 06:00

From: Void Singer

ETA: I'm guessing the surrounding land the OP was discussing was 100m+ I don't think you can go below the sim floor even using a custom raw file for the sim layout. (but I could be wrong)

Yes. The bottom is at 0. Surrounding is 98-100, and there is water at about 64 (odd? I thought LL water was at 20m). It is not a legacy terraform limit sim. It's in the next continent north of DaBoom etc.

Ah. I read the jira. That must be it.

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02-22-2009 12:41

water at 64m !?!? on a mainland sim? that does seem odd... I thought all LL sims had their water at 20m... odd.

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Destiny Niles

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02-22-2009 14:34

Water on some mountain sims are even higher.
You can go underground with the llSitTarget( <0,0,100>, ZERO_ROTATION);

Talarus Luan

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02-22-2009 16:34

Yeah, it's a bug in the terraforming tools. You can set one of the options to a weird value and essentially blow a "hole" or a pillar in your land. Can't fix it without Linden help, or perhaps a sim reboot.

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02-24-2009 01:30

From: Drongle McMahon

I have just been somewhere on mainland where there is a 16sqm hole going down 100m below the surrounding ground level.

That would be an interesting sight, would you post the coordinates?
tyia
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Drongle McMahon Older than he looks Join date: 22 Jun 2007 Posts: 494	02-20-2009 15:34 I have just been somewhere on mainland where there is a 16sqm hole going down 100m below the surrounding ground level. This is a normal +/-4m terraform sim. I have seen patches of bug pits this deep, but this one is isolated and looks intentional. Can this be done deliberately? With a script?
Cherry Hainsworth Registered User Join date: 31 Jul 2006 Posts: 125	02-20-2009 16:02 I'm curious! I can only suppose it's an 'exploit' as going 100m underground just puts you in dark-blue boringness normally. Did it look like the ground went right down the sides of the hole? If so, the ground mesh must have been distorted somehow, mustn't it? I've been to a couple of establishments that claimed to be built underground, but they were just camera tricks. I have my camera constraints turned off. As a comment of slight relevance, you can place objects underground. Comes in useful sometimes. Cherry _____________________ ================= My stuff on XSt:- http://tinyurl.com/383mgh
Void Singer Int vSelf = Sing(void); Join date: 24 Sep 2005 Posts: 6,973	02-21-2009 20:39 might have been a legacy sim, that had unusual terraform limits (a few used to have +/-40, and few were +/-100, there used to be a list but I've lost the link), a private sim (estate manages don't have to obey the limits (I think?), or it could be related to this jira issue... https://jira.secondlife.com/browse/SVC-2959 ETA: I'm guessing the surrounding land the OP was discussing was 100m+ I don't think you can go below the sim floor even using a custom raw file for the sim layout. (but I could be wrong) PSedit: the mentioned list of (mainland) sims with odd terraform limits appears to have been wiped out (was in the knowledge base) the only two I could dig up names for were 'Da Boom' and 'Immaculate' (both +/-40)... there were about 2 dozen... no clue if their odd limits still apply _____________________ \| \| . "Cat-Like Typing Detected" \| . This post may contain errors in logic, spelling, and \| . grammar known to the SL populace to cause confusion \| \| - Please Use PHP tags when posting scripts/code, Thanks. \| - Can't See PHP or URL Tags Correctly? Check Out This Link... \| -
Osprey Therian I want capslocklock Join date: 6 Jul 2004 Posts: 5,049	02-21-2009 23:47 I vaguely remember someone a year or two ago mentioning a goofy technique to achieve something like this but wasn't interested enough to remember it. _____________________ http:www.atomic-raygun.com Combat Cards in Europa [url=http://slurl.com/secondlife/grignano/118/116/]The Photography Studio in Grignano[/url] Mud! Mud! Glorious mud! Nothing quite like it for cooling the blood. So, follow me, follow, down to the hollow, And there let us wallow in glorious mud. Flanders and Swan
Drongle McMahon Older than he looks Join date: 22 Jun 2007 Posts: 494	02-22-2009 06:00 From: Void Singer ETA: I'm guessing the surrounding land the OP was discussing was 100m+ I don't think you can go below the sim floor even using a custom raw file for the sim layout. (but I could be wrong) Yes. The bottom is at 0. Surrounding is 98-100, and there is water at about 64 (odd? I thought LL water was at 20m). It is not a legacy terraform limit sim. It's in the next continent north of DaBoom etc. Ah. I read the jira. That must be it.
Void Singer Int vSelf = Sing(void); Join date: 24 Sep 2005 Posts: 6,973	02-22-2009 12:41 water at 64m !?!? on a mainland sim? that does seem odd... I thought all LL sims had their water at 20m... odd. _____________________ \| \| . "Cat-Like Typing Detected" \| . This post may contain errors in logic, spelling, and \| . grammar known to the SL populace to cause confusion \| \| - Please Use PHP tags when posting scripts/code, Thanks. \| - Can't See PHP or URL Tags Correctly? Check Out This Link... \| -
Destiny Niles Registered User Join date: 23 Aug 2006 Posts: 949	02-22-2009 14:34 Water on some mountain sims are even higher. You can go underground with the llSitTarget( <0,0,100>, ZERO_ROTATION);
Talarus Luan Ancient Archaean Dragon Join date: 18 Mar 2006 Posts: 4,831	02-22-2009 16:34 Yeah, it's a bug in the terraforming tools. You can set one of the options to a weird value and essentially blow a "hole" or a pillar in your land. Can't fix it without Linden help, or perhaps a sim reboot.
Abraxes Binder Registered User Join date: 23 May 2008 Posts: 205	where.. 02-24-2009 01:30 From: Drongle McMahon I have just been somewhere on mainland where there is a 16sqm hole going down 100m below the surrounding ground level. That would be an interesting sight, would you post the coordinates? tyia ab _____________________ BR ab