Lockmeister

(not sure if my last post posted so)

I've been interested in using the lockmeister system, but I have no idea where to find any information on using lockmeister in any projects. Where does the script come from? Can anyone use it? Is there any information available about how to acquire use of it? I've searched SL up and down and all I find are content creators who use it, no sources for making use of it yourself. Can someone point me in the right direction?

Thanks.

Find something done by this Lockmeister - click on it and look at ”creator” - IM him o she and ask...


/Tina

I believe Kyrah Abbatoir is the creator of the lockmeister line.

*hugs*

Ash

I assume it's a system done by someone else and used by different makers.. not sure, though Kyrah's stuff was the first i saw that had the lockmeister system used. I suggest IMing her or another one of the designers that use it to find out how to get it. =)

Edit --
and as Sis said, I believe she is right. =D

I saw that post just as I posted this, too funny.

Details of the lockmeister protocol are on the LSL Wiki.

http://secondlife.com/badgeo/wakka.php?wakka=exchangeLockMeisterSystem

It's on the wiki. It isn't a script though - it's a protocol - and it's of limited use unless you're scripting yourself.

Basically, it lets an object ask an avatar: "hey, are you wearing an attachment of <x> type? If so, can it please talk to me, so I can get its key from the listen?". It's almost a shame it's wrapped up in BDSM because that same system can be useful for lots of things. To say nothing about the "hey, can you turn your AO off please, because this piece of furniture wants to animate you?" command - that should be standard everywhere surely!

There is part of the protocol that isn't documented on the wiki, namely the target command (which I understand is the "Amethyst extension". I won't say how that works here, since it's possible it's not been documented for a reason, but once you know what channel it's working on it's easy to figure out anyway.

whee reviving old threads, for the protocol, all it do is explained on the wiki page, i finally have also put back the sample attachment code

well i am not responsible if some peoples write non standard functions for it

That's OK.. she has figured it out and is giving / selling it under the name LockGuard (with some changes that make it incompatible with LockMeister of course)

http://www.slboutique.com/index.php?p=buy&itemid=78121
http://www.slboutique.com/index.php?p=buy&itemid=78850
http://www.slboutique.com/index.php?p=buy&itemid=79631
http://www.slboutique.com/index.php?p=buy&itemid=79968

You have gotten a few things wrong in your message, allow me to correct you.

First, yes, I was interested in Lockmeister, but only because I thought it was a "particle chain system". Yet, I had since come to find out.....

Lockmeister is "only a protocol", nothing more, and NOT a particle chain system.

So, I designed what I was looking for myself, a particle chain system, and released it for >>FREE<< with complete protocol documentation, and script examples.

Yes, I do offer a builder version with purpose to eliminate scripting entirely from the process by providing a pre-scripted animation handler and attachment points which use the LockGuard protocol, but that's a *choice*. If you know how to script, it isn't necessary, and can do the exact same thing with the FREE dev kit.

Now we come to the other mistakes of your message. LockGuard does NOT do the same thing as Lockmeister. Lockmeister is a only protocol which passes keys from cuffs to furniture and does nothing beyond that, while LockGuard is a complete, self-contained particle chain system which uses an entirely different protocol which requires *far* less scripting on the part of furniture creators. So different in fact, ONE line of code in your furniture will create a particle chain from a LockGuard item.

As for your issue with LockGuard not being compatible with Lockmeister, the protocols operate *completely* different, there was really no way to make LockGuard compatible with Lockmeister without *using* Lockmeister. You can try to claim LockGuard is the same thing as Lockmeister, but one read of the two protocols will show you vast differences, not withstanding the fact LockGuard is an entire particle chain system while Lockmeister is not.

So, I'm giving a fully-supported, fully documented, free particle chain system which uses a different protocol, requires much less scripting, and even creates customizable particle chains, to furniture builders without requiring permissions or applying restrictions for its use..... tell me again how this is supposed to be Lockmeister?

And next time, before you attack someone for something you **think** they are doing, do your research.

Lockmeister and Lockguard are completely different. A Lockmeister furniture has all the particle code inside the furniture itself, while LockGuard has all the magic in the avatar's attachments. Looking at the protocol itself shows very clearly that they are by no means related in any way.

I'm sorry.. but the difference in the protocol is simply in reversing the direction. You have changed the code from:



To:


The fact that you provide free cuffs with a closed source particle chain script is a different matter. As it locks the system into being used with only your cuffs.

In other words, you're saying two things which achieve an end but do them in two different ways are the same. So, everyone who makes a chair, even though they look and act different as chairs, are copying the original chair. Well, I can't argue with that, but the means to the end is as much different as it is opposite. Try creating some practical furniture for both, and you'll find out how very different they really are.

As for closed source, for the last day or two I've have been talking to people who are interested in making LockGuard an open source project, and I am 100% behind that, and willing to throw all my support to that project, and bring LockGuard to the market as open source. It can do nothing but improve competition, from which the end result is better BD products at competitive prices. After all, monopolies are bad for business, competition drives innovation.

I don't mean to come off as overly defensive, and I hope I don't come off as rude in this message or my previous one, it's not really my intention here, and I apologize if I sounded off in my first response (I've been working long SL days, lol). But there are really quite a few differences between LockGuard and Lockmeister, and they both have their own unique advantages and disadvantages.

Finally, as for making cuffs compatible...... Today, the updated LockGuard Dev Kit is being released..... it also includes stand-alone LockGuard scripts which can be inserted into any item you own. I've already put them in my own cuffs, and now they're happily compatible with both LockGuard and Lockmeister furniture.

I have nothing against Lockmeister as a protocol, heck, I spent a L$ fortune on Lockmeister-based equipment (1000s and 1000s of L$, literally), and originally wanted to release a SDK to make Lockmeister easier to use for everyone. Unfortunately, at that time, Lockmeister was a near mystery (though since June 1 the protocol docs for LM have finally been updated to be cleaner and clearer and a little bit more in-depth, good job on that LM), nobody was willing to help me develope such a SDK, and the restrictions of Lockmeister use didn't make it any easier to create a widely distributed and free SDK.

So, welcome to LockGuard..... an easy, unrestricted, free-for-all protocol with as much support from me as I can possibly muster.

There are no restrictions on the use of the LockMeister protocol, as it is an open protocol. There is a requirement specification to meet if you wish to use the LockMeister logo, but none to use the protocol itself.

As far as I remember there is a paragraph in the LockMeister licence that *requires* you to get the "LockMeister Approval Seal" when doing furniture (particle emitters), only for the attachments, it's *optional*.

Let's reiterate this once again:

LockMeister and LockGuard do achieve similar goals, but internally they work completely different. Even the protocol itself is different. It's true, there are similarities, but that would be the same for, say, ShackleLock, because it can't be done otherwise. If you build a car, you will need to have a means to accelerate, steer and brake. A particle chain system will need to find the target, draw particles and communicate.

Another fundamental difference between LockMeister and LockGuard can be seen at first glance: LockMeister can only be used for target-to-cuff chains, while LockGuard can work with cuff-to-cuff as well as cuff-to-any-object-in-world, there doesn't even have to be a LockGuard enabled object around to do that.

what a fight...
and no there is not such paragraph in my license ... i wrote a license? oh yeah in the sample script, that basically say, "don't be a moron and don't copy paste this code without trying to understand it a lil"

what i, see is that when you attempt to unify all the bdsm toys under one open system for compatibility reasons, there are peoples that manage to make a closed system aside, hell even Xcite use it.

Funny, my particle chain handcuffs use the Lockmeister protocol for cuff-to-cuff linking just fine...

I'll consider a different protocol as soon as its documented on the Wiki...

using lockmeister for cuff2cuff and i use lockmeister to where it fits.

Perhaps this is not the palce to ask, but what the heck, since it was mentionned, how does one do cuff to cuff or cuff to collar connectinos in either lockguard or lockmeister systems?

I'm not sure how Lockguard words, but for Lockmeister, you just have one of the cuffs ask the other for its key, then rez a particle chain with that key set as the target.

I'm not sure where the poster above got the idea that Lockmeister can only be used by static objects. It's a completely generic protocol that basically says "hey, tell me if you have <x> attachment". In fact, as I mentioned above, it's useful for lots of things other than making kinky particle chains. It's even used by some standard poseballs and AOs now because of the handy AO disable command.

Talk about dredging up the past..

But since it was asked, here is everything you ever needed to know about Lockmeister:

http://www.lslwiki.net/lslwiki/wakka.php?wakka=exchangeLockMeisterSystem

and for the sake of fairness, here's everything you need to know about Lockguard:

http://www.lslwiki.net/lslwiki/wakka.php?wakka=exchangeLockGuard

You can find a Lockmeister Development kit in the 1L Amethyst Cross sold at any Amethyst Vendor.

There used to be a Lockguard Dev Kit at Dictatorshop, but I can't find it anymore. IM me if you need a copy.