Object corrupted

Hi all,

sad news.... for me. I have an object that I believe has become corrupted. A couple hundred prims, probably some 50 scripts scattered throughout it... listeners, linked messages, all that jazz. I started to notice that it did not like to link and unlink, and generated bogus messages about pieces being too far apart to link (even though that is clearly not the case).

Then I could not "take" the object, but rather had to copy it... and I could take the copy. Recently, linked messages between the prims are failing.

Hell in a handbasket.

Q: What is the best route to fixing this object?

Any easy ways to find the offending prims?

Edit: Yes, I am the creator of all objects/scripts/textures used in the object

Thanks for your help.

-Ryder-

Are you the creator of it all, if so then the person most qualified to fix it would be yourself as we know nothing about the code and if its 50 odd scripts it could be well over 7000 lines of code and could be failing any where, if ur not take it to the creator, chances are it needs to be linked in a certain way for the link messages to work properly

Thanks Daten...

It's not the code.

The object itself is corrupted... some (hopefully not all) of the prims are "bad" in a way that is not easly apparent.

My thinking is that I need to isolate the bad parts, replace them, relink.

This might be a perfect application for CopyBot.

-Ryder-

Whenever I have encountered corrupted prims in a build the Shift+Drag to copy method worked fine to replace the corrupt prim. I have never tried it with a linked set but imagine it will work. The copy you drag is the original, the new one will be left where the original one started out.

Just drag a box around all prims to make sure they are all selected, then do the "Shift+Drag".

Thanks, actually, I have been doing that, and it seems to help... but there is something that gets passed on to the copy... it still does not want to link... but pressing ctrl-l about 3 times seems to work.

The object has a hard time knowing where its center is... and oddly, when I try to move the selected (unlinked) group... it "drops" parts along the way... like moving a car that is not bolted together... parts just... fall off along the way (no, they are not physical

It's nuts... never seen anything quite like it.

linked messages are not traveling well through it... bump maps are failing on some of the parts... sometimes. Quite a puzzle.

But really, I just want to repair it...

Does anyone know who the author of copybot is? I may explore that avenue...

thx,

-Ryder-

Moving and/or rotating unlinked groups of prims is usually a very bad, yet mostly hilarious idea. I highly suggest the rotation part, it's pretty fun to watch.

With you delinking and relinking it, you may have botched the root prim, and with 50 scripts in 100 prims, good luck figuring out which one it was. Most likely, that's what 'corrupted' your object. My question is why were you unlinking it in the first place? And my second question is what ungodly mess has 100 prims and 50 scripts???

As you may have noticed Ryden, people are not responding to your questions about copybot. As far as I am aware this is a serious breach of the TOS. If discovered using it I would think it is an immediate ban offence and certainly LL will not look kindly on it.

I would explore every possible avenue for rectifying the problem before even considering such a move.

Have you considered just rebuilding the object. If you are the creator it should be a relatively simpple process of reconstructing the prims, copying the script contents and putting them into the new build. I appreciate this will take time but from what you've said it seems like your only option right now.

I have found a few items of my own corrupted as well, luckily I had the originals backed up in my inventory. one even was backed up into a rezzer and somehow months later unlinked a section, within the rezzer which I didnt even think was possible. anyway I too have had problems linking prims I find that the failsafe way to link is to select them all and wait a lil bit for the client to register them all, they seem to not be reading in time in some instances, and also linking through the actual client seems to be a bit more reliable as of late. the keyboard shortcuts seem to be off the past few weeks, months, gawd who knows.

o.0 ::hides the version I coded myself for my own creations which incidental checks if I'm owner and creator on each prim:: no I won't give out a copy, make your own =P

If I recall correctly, Linden labs steadfastly supported copybot, and unless something changed, is not a TOS violation to have or use.

Currently, I am making my own prim copy tool, and will post the scripts when complete, to help those that need to rebuild broken objects.

Regards,

-Ryder-

personally I'd reccomend NOT posting the scripts (I know they aren't REALLY that complex) to cut down on abuse... (not for fear of reprisals)

you could make a version that checks permissions/creator on each each prim (and compare to to the prim you'll use to copy with)... keep it closed mod, but make it freely available?

just a thought and I'm sure content creators everywhere will thank you

I remember all the fire and brimstone that came about from the last time this came up, and wanted to cry as I watched content makers begin to no-mod EVERYTHING.... I still can't buy a decent pair of shoes that's +mod, and most hair makers won't do +mod either, not to mention other various content.

with reference to copybot


taken from transcript of Townhall Meeting, Thursday, November 16th, 2006

http://blog.secondlife.com/2006/11/16/todays-town-hall-with-philip-now-available/#more-519

So the mai question is what is an inappropriate use of Copybot.

Well I would guess using it to recreate someone elses build and then selling it.

Might even go so far as suggesting if you do release the scripts, release them from an alt account. Does not matter how logical the arguments are, you will recieve a huge amount of grief. Do a search in the library for Prim Mirror to see what just the tip of the iceberg looks like.

This is not what 'copybot' is. It's an altered SL client, not a set of scripts; setting no-mod won't stop it.

Of course, mod perms and an automated linkset parameter copying script might open the potential for theft, but in reality, such occurrences are extremely few.

I think confusion arises from the same term being used for two different things. Yes there is an altered client version that will allow you to copy anyones items and scripts but from the townhall minutes I can't believe this is what Philip Linden was talking about.

It was my understanding there is a script or set of scripts floating around that will rez a new object with the same parameters as an old one.

Having said that I have not seen either version in operation.

The question is "is there any protection against the client copybot?"

They were talking about the client. No, it cannot copy people's scripts, and no, there's no protection against it. As it stands right now there's a standard client keyboard shortcut to retrieve the UUID key of a texture from any face of any prim, permissions or not. Even if there weren't, it wouldn't prevent it from being possible. It's not a big deal.