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1 prim vendors

Babette Ultsch
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Join date: 26 Mar 2007
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05-05-2007 14:31
Hi

i have a question regarding 1 prim vendors.
I have checked the hybrid vendor 1.5 recommended in this forum (from yiffy yaffy?)
but i doesnt work exactly like i want :-).
What i usually like myself when buying stuff is when the buy option
appears insted of the 'take' option in the right click menue, and the
vendor hands out the inventory of the prim to the buyer.
While the hybrid vendor uses the pay option of the right click menue
and doesnt show the contents of the purchase.

What i like to know is, if its just a simple trick to get the buy option
in place of teh take option, or whether theres scripting involved.
From what i've seen you can set prims to give inventory (contents) to buyers
just by switching on the appropiate option in the prim editor, which is actually closely to what i want.
But the bad thing is that the buy option appears on page 2 of the right click menue
after you coose the more> option. This is pretty confusing for buyers imo.

I hope i could made clear what i'd like to know, many thanks for your answers
in advance.

sincerely,
Babette
Ziggy Puff
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05-05-2007 14:45
There's no scripted access to the Buy option. You set that in the edit window for the prim, no scripting needed. You can set a price, and set the object to sell its contents, or sell itself, or a copy of itself. If you say 'sell contents', the entire contents will be given to the person who buys it.

A vendor is used when you have multiple objects in inventory, that you want to sell individually, and maybe sell each item for a different price. There's no way to do that with the 'Buy' option. In that case, you need a vendor script, and you have to use the Pay option. The Pay option shows up on page 1 for everyone else, I think, it only shows up on page 2 for the owner of the object. Try this with someone else's vendor to double-check it.

If all you want to do is sell the entire inventory contents for a single price, set up Buy from the edit menu, and don't use a vendor.
Morgana Hilra
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Join date: 25 Oct 2006
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05-06-2007 01:12
where do we get vendors that pay the owner, and not the creator?
Newgate Ludd
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05-06-2007 01:36
From: Morgana Hilra
where do we get vendors that pay the owner, and not the creator?


Unless explicitly writen to do so all vendors pay the owner not the creator.
Any money paid to the object goes directly into the owners account. The vendor would have to explicitly use llGiveMoney to pay someone else.
Babette Ultsch
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Join date: 26 Mar 2007
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05-06-2007 03:10
thank you for the answers.
LOL i actually realized what was wrong.
The take otopion shows just for me
while all others see the buy option ^.^
Morgana Hilra
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06-03-2007 12:47
From: Newgate Ludd
Unless explicitly writen to do so all vendors pay the owner not the creator.
Any money paid to the object goes directly into the owners account. The vendor would have to explicitly use llGiveMoney to pay someone else.


I ended up getting my sl hubby/rl fiance, to make new ones...
BUT
The vendors she/we (sister and I) were using were paying someone else, and not us.
Something like 50% of her sales.
Newgate Ludd
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06-04-2007 04:47
From: Morgana Hilra
I ended up getting my sl hubby/rl fiance, to make new ones...
BUT
The vendors she/we (sister and I) were using were paying someone else, and not us.
Something like 50% of her sales.


Was this a script you have picked up off teh forums or soemthing you picke dup in world?
If you have access to the script look into the money event and see what key is being used in the call to llGiveMoney
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Marcush Nemeth
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06-04-2007 05:56
This is just a note to be VERY careful with scripts you buy or pick up anywhere. There are a lot of bonafide vendor creators out there, but there's always the occasional rotten apple that spoils the fruit. If you see a type of vendor being used regularly, then do look into it, and see if it's worth investing in that one. Or have a scripter you know and trust make one for you. And sadly, there's more types of scripts being abusable. So be careful with these things. You don't want to open just any attachment in your e-mail. Similarly, you will not want to place just any script into any of your objects.

It is very much possible for a scripter to set a script so he or she receives a percentage or even all of the money. It's even possible for a scripter to have a vendor do this only at random and not too common intervals, so you'd probably never even notice, but would still generate some nice money for the scripter.. In a worst case scenario, a scripter could even tell an object to become full-perms for 10 seconds through some unknown chatcommand, so he could buy it to start up his own bussiness with your work.

If you notice a vendor acting weird and sending money to other people, without any clear statement (for example in a notecard) that it should, then file an abuse report for both the script and the account the money was sent to, and let Linden Labs sort it out.
Bloodsong Termagant
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Posts: 615
06-07-2007 07:55
some "free" vendors are actually set up to take commissions.

that's the caveat of them being 'free.' you dont pay, until/unless you make sales. then you pay. otherwise, you would just buy the commercial version of the vendor straight out. (hippovend and i think a new vendor has this system). technically, they're not cheating you, because ostensibly they noted it was a commission vendor before or when you took it.

if you start up a vendor (or anything) and it asks you for permission to debit your account (take lindens from you) that's a huge red flag to check it out. and say NO! potentially, once you give an object this permission, it can shunt all your lindens anywhere it bloody well wants.

so my main advice is, NEVER use vendors that ask to debit your account.

some vendors give change, in case the buyer pays the wrong amount. avoid these as well. you want vendors that dont LET the buy enter any value, but use the PAY_HIDE method of only presenting them with one pay button. they either pay that price, or they hit cancel.
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Lyn Mimistrobell
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06-07-2007 10:48
I agree with the restricted use of the pay method (IE only showing the correct amount and hiding the buttons). However, if you check the wiki (http://rpgstats.com/wiki/index.php?title=llSetPayPrice):

From: LSL Wiki
Note Also: Always (ALWAYS!) check the amount paid - this UI element isn't modal, and has had bug problems in the past. Never trust the client software to be secure.

So what do you do when someone still doesn't pay the correct amount and you don't allow an object to pay from your account? Ofcourse, it could IM you and you'd have to pay the customer back manually but that's a lot of extra manual administration.

My advice:
1. Create an alternate avi with a very limited amount of money - in fact it could be L$0 - that owns the vendor. That way, a vendor could never pay out more than it receives.
2. Ask around. Perhaps the vendor creator/seller has a group that you can talk to for info.
3. NEVER EVER allow a freebie script or object - especially one given to you by someone else - to take money from your account.

Lyn
poopmaster Oh
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06-07-2007 14:38
you dont need any scripts for a 1 prim vendor

its built into every prim

set for sale

and 'give contents'
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Suzy Hazlehurst
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06-08-2007 02:50
From: poopmaster Oh
you dont need any scripts for a 1 prim vendor


You do if you have a low prim allowance and need to get one prim to sell different items. I used to have that kind at one of my stores, if you left click it, it shows the next item, if you right click it, you can pay for the item that is being displayed.

I use 'Hiro's Super Vendor Package' for my 1 prim and 3 prim vendors. It's a freebie, I think I picked it up at Yadni's Junkjard. It does ask for debit permission, but for the months I have been using it it has not once short-changed me. People do sometimes get confused by the pay option though: they pay the wrong amount (usually not enough), then try to give the vendor the rest of the money, then complain to me about not getting their item. But an SL vendor is not like a soda machine, it can't take payment in different sessions and add them to a total. It just returns any amount to small to buy the item immediately, so the people complaining got their money back so fast they didn't even notice. (apparently the kind of people who blindly confirm every blue dialogue)

For multi prim vendors I can recommend JEVN. You see those all over the place, and for good reason: they are great. I plan on replacing my left-over freebie vendors (that were great during my penniless start-up, thank you Hiro!) with it when I can find the time to set it up. It is best though to have your own plot of land if you use JEVN: you need to set up a server in a place where it's unlikely to be moved, because picking up the server and putting it somewhere else may cause a disconnect, forcing you to install it all over again.
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poopmaster Oh
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06-08-2007 06:06
MVG makes a 'multi item' 4 prim free vendor system that works wonderfull
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