detect speaking?

Hi, I was wondering if there's a way to detect when someone is speaking, like maybe a state for llGetAgentInfo that isn't listed on the wiki yet:
http://www.lslwiki.net/lslwiki/wakka.php?wakka=llGetAgentInfo

Speaking? What do you mean? Are you talking about voice? If so, I don't think there's a way. I don't think you mean typing, since you mentioned llGetAgentInfo() yourself. If you mean the instant they hit enter and send a chat message, you're looking for llListen(), of course.

If you want to detect if someone is speaking near the area where your object scripted is you have to use listen event:

http://rpgstats.com/wiki/index.php?title=Listen

And unsing a listener in channel 0

And there you have a script that generates a lot of lag .

Sorry I wasn't being specific, yeah I meant voice. I would love if there's a way to detect voice talking in the same way that you can use llGetAgentInfo to detect typing. If there isn't, I'll probably put it on JIRA because it shouldn't be hard to add a state; they already detect voice to trigger gestures after all.

yeah I TOTALLY wish we had a "llGetUserInfo(USER_SPEAKING)" or something. because GOSH how useful would it be to those of us WITHOUT voice, to be able to detect when others are speaking?

For that matter, I'd also like a feature to detect voice enabled/disabled. I mean sure visually IF we have voice enabled, we can see the little dots over people's heads, but it would be useful for some things to, perhaps, make scripts work differently if voice is enabled/disabled for a given user.

(I can see a huge use for this in my shop. Voice enabled user pops in, and gets a notice informing them that I can not use voice myself, and therefore am unable to provide customer support via voice)... or perhaps some sort of landmark giver that hands out a landmark to the "voicer's lounge" or nonvoicers... whatever.

I can see both such functions being useful. If you get JIRA's posted up, put links here, I'll go vots for em!

It would honestly be a shame for a rift like that to be allowed to form. If it's not already. (T_T)

I keep a link to a voice awareness for non-voicers JIRA in my signature... Please check it out and add to the vote count if it's not closed again. (^_^)y

Oh that rift, sadly, does exist, and is big enough to park 2 Corellian Freighters and probably nudge in a few snub-fighters as well. Unfortunately a LOT of my friends use voice, which leaves the non-voicers in the room sitting around staring at silence. (and therefore increases DRAMATICALLY the chances that any OTHER non-voicers might be afk... it's a vicious circle).

But all that said, there ARE some uses for the ability to discern who has voice enabled/disabled from a script's perspective.. from the basics of only delivering the "Voice Rulesheet" for an RP sim to voice enabled users... to the extremes of actually constructing "security systems". The politics and ethics of this divide, I agree, are disturbing.. as someone who is affected by it daily.

But I also know that there's use for the information. From "which escorts have voice enabled" to "which player on your team needs to see some chat because they CAN'T hear you". Special welcome kits for non-voicers, or whatever. I'm reminded of Ceera's comments on the jira.. such an LSL detectable piece of data would be heck of useful to send out a warning to voice enabled people that they are entering a no-voice zone. (just thought of one more).. imagine someone is giving a lecture via voice.. and therefore voice is enabled on the land. Let's say it's an important lecture/news conference, whatever. You could just as easily send out a periodic notice to all non-voice-enabled people that there is content going on in the voice channel, and they're encouraged to enable voice and participate.

There's two sides to the issue.. and having access to the data of who is or isn't enabled.. it's valuable, just like all sorts of detectable stuff in SL... I think the potential for practical development of tools and applications far outweighs the potential for drama... regardless of what individuals or groups might use it for.

Okay well it seems nobody knows, so there must not be a way. I'll make a JIRA and post it here.

Actually. We all confirmed that it's not possible. I keep the JIRA in my signature. Please check it out. (^_^)

it has occurred to me that we should ask to have the little green Voice blinky thing enabled, even for users who have voice disabled. After all, you can (almost) always tell when somebody is typing. You should be able to (almost) always see when someone is using public voice, too.

Am I muted? (T_T)

Technically it *IS* possible to detect when someone is talking on voice. MuzzleTalk does it for example. And I've also scripted something myself that does it.

The drawback: it only works when the avatar in question has a number of specific talking gestures active. (You can find them in the library and just drag them onto your avatar to activate them).

There is a total of 16 or so different animations that will play once these gestures are set active. Detect those to know whether your Avatar is talking or not.

Does it work if you have voice chat turned off? (^_^)

Technically it *IS* possible to detect when someone is talking on voice. MuzzleTalk does it for example. And I've also scripted something myself that does it.

The drawback: it only works when the avatar in question has a number of specific talking gestures active. (You can find them in the library and just drag them onto your avatar to activate them).

There is a total of 16 or so different animations that will play once these gestures are set active. Detect those to know whether your Avatar is talking or not.

Not to dig up a dead thread or anything, but I don't exactly understand how one would detect the gestures being played.

You can't detect gestures directly, but you can detect some of their effects. For example, you can detect chat output that they send on a particular channel (llListen()) and you can detect animations that they might play (llGetAnimationList()).

Right, but how does one connect that to detecting voice chat? Say like an Agent playing an anim when someone uses voice.

I'm guessing some of the gestures (and thus whatever chat messages and animations they play) are played automatically by the client when you are speaking. Look at the gestures and see if you can infer what chats to listen for or what animations to test on. Of course, the poster might have also said "gestures" when they meant "animations", which would make it a little simpler.

I have looked into it and the stock SL voice anims are in fact gestures though I am finding a split between animations and gestures inside pieces that use gestured detected voice chat, or whatever you wish to call it. Furries, like myself, call it muzzle talk.