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Aliasi Stonebender

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Join date: 30 Jan 2005

Posts: 1,858

12-31-2005 19:29

Just a little something I found by my shop today. Y'know, I'll defend the right of "IMPEACH BUSH", given bush is a public figure, there's no law against ugly builds nor should there be, etc, etc... but this is a direct threat towards me and my group, who own much of the Eldora sim between us. (The squid is our logo.)

I can't name names, of course, but someday, perhaps, I'll be allowed to.

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Dianne Mechanique

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Join date: 28 Mar 2005

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12-31-2005 19:54

From: Aliasi Stonebender

Just a little something I found by my shop today. Y'know, I'll defend the right of "IMPEACH BUSH", given bush is a public figure, there's no law against ugly builds nor should there be, etc, etc... but this is a direct threat towards me and my group, who own much of the Eldora sim between us. (The squid is our logo.)

I can't name names, of course, but someday, perhaps, I'll be allowed to.

Garnet and I had this happen to us a long time ago (on a much smaller scale though). It's a direct TOS violation that should be AR'ed.

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Dragon Steele

Artist/conservationist

Join date: 3 Jan 2005

Posts: 183

12-31-2005 21:04

From: Dianne Mechanique

Garnet and I had this happen to us a long time ago (on a much smaller scale though). It's a direct TOS violation that should be AR'ed.

yup it is report it

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Daz Honey

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Join date: 27 Jun 2005

Posts: 599

12-31-2005 21:12

what kind of tard would do that? if you dont like a shop dont go there. of course there might be more to this story than you are telling us. I can tell you from my experience of having my little newbie shop completely wiped off the map by an oldbie I was renting from really hurt....

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Aliasi Stonebender

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Join date: 30 Jan 2005

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12-31-2005 21:41

From: Daz Honey

what kind of tard would do that? if you dont like a shop dont go there. of course there might be more to this story than you are telling us. I can tell you from my experience of having my little newbie shop completely wiped off the map by an oldbie I was renting from really hurt....

Well, there is, but nothing of these extent. My group sells off some land to meet tier, land gets bought by guy who puts ugly spinny FOR SALE signs up with loud, noisy chimes playing audible from across the sim and marks it for twice the going rate, I try to reason with guy, attempt fails as he pulls a Divine, I put up walls and a sign (on our land - we surround this plot, since we sold it off) warning off from buying the guy's land, he decides to try to intimidate everybody in the group on land he BOUGHT FROM US.

Given the account was created the very day the land was bought, it belongs to no groups, no ratings, etc, it's an obvious alt, and while there are people who, for one reason or another, might want to annoy the hell out of us, there's not a great deal of offensive action on our part.

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Jeffrey Gomez

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Join date: 11 Jun 2004

Posts: 3,522

12-31-2005 21:43

Pretty lame. Had a look in-world. Things are stacked from the ground all the way to 200-300m or so, land price set to extortion levels and, of course, salable. Yay, Capitalism.

Par for the course. Abuse Report the person - name and join date peg it an alt anyway. Past that... all that you can continue to do is build to the skyline around it, since it doesn't look like the things are physical or anything. If they were I would have *cough* blown them away personally.

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Daz Honey

Fine, Fine Artist

Join date: 27 Jun 2005

Posts: 599

12-31-2005 21:50

From: Aliasi Stonebender

Well, there is, but nothing of these extent. My group sells off some land to meet tier, land gets bought by guy who puts ugly spinny FOR SALE signs up with loud, noisy chimes playing audible from across the sim and marks it for twice the going rate, I try to reason with guy, attempt fails as he pulls a Divine, I put up walls and a sign (on our land - we surround this plot, since we sold it off) warning off from buying the guy's land, he decides to try to intimidate everybody in the group on land he BOUGHT FROM US.

Given the account was created the very day the land was bought, it belongs to no groups, no ratings, etc, it's an obvious alt, and while there are people who, for one reason or another, might want to annoy the hell out of us, there's not a great deal of offensive action on our part.

I'm not doubting your side of the story but it sounds like there must be a reason why someone buys land then doesn't want to sell (as it's twice the rate right?) then goes to the trouble to build ugly prims making him look like an idiot no one would trust to buy from anyway. Where's Scooby Doo when you need him, my guess is that one of your group is doing this...

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Garnet Psaltery

Walking on the Moon

Join date: 12 Apr 2005

Posts: 913

01-02-2006 16:07

From: Dianne Mechanique

Garnet and I had this happen to us a long time ago (on a much smaller scale though). It's a direct TOS violation that should be AR'ed.

Oh my, I'd forgotten about that! This brings back all the terrible feelings it gave me at the time. My sympathies, Aliasi.

A little while later .....

Ah, it's gone, hooray!

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Gabe Lippmann

"Phone's ringing, Dude."

Join date: 14 Jun 2004

Posts: 4,219

01-02-2006 16:25

From: Aliasi Stonebender

I put up walls and a sign (on our land - we surround this plot, since we sold it off) warning off from buying the guy's land, he decides to try to intimidate everybody in the group on land he BOUGHT FROM US.

I'm not condoning the person's little tower, but after this maneuver, did you expect the issue to die a nice, easy death?

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Aliasi Stonebender

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01-02-2006 16:37

From: Gabe Lippmann

I'm not condoning the person's little tower, but after this maneuver, did you expect the issue to die a nice, easy death?

Not particularly, no. Impulsive action has ever been a weakness of mine. There's a fair difference between a "this land is overpriced, don't buy it" and the sort of threat shown here, though.

But yes, after the Laz Divine issue, I admit I was hypersensitive to that kind of thing. OTOH, it's another in a series of actions that's turned me from a believer in the main grid to seriously considering a private sim. Although, given my involvement in Neualtenburg, I may just increase my holdings there.

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Dianne Mechanique

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01-03-2006 10:07

From: Aliasi Stonebender

...There's a fair difference between a "this land is overpriced, don't buy it" and the sort of threat shown here, though....

Yikes!
I agree there's a difference and also that this person started all the problems, but..

the "don't buy it" part is as much a violation as what he ended up doing.

"land is overpriced" = fact
"don't buy it" = grief

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Aliasi Stonebender Return of Catbread Join date: 30 Jan 2005 Posts: 1,858	12-31-2005 19:29 Just a little something I found by my shop today. Y'know, I'll defend the right of "IMPEACH BUSH", given bush is a public figure, there's no law against ugly builds nor should there be, etc, etc... but this is a direct threat towards me and my group, who own much of the Eldora sim between us. (The squid is our logo.) I can't name names, of course, but someday, perhaps, I'll be allowed to. _____________________ Red Mary says, softly, “How a man grows aggressive when his enemy displays propriety. He thinks: I will use this good behavior to enforce my advantage over her. Is it any wonder people hold good behavior in such disregard?” Anything Surplus Home to the "Nuke the Crap Out of..." series of games and other stuff
Dianne Mechanique Back from the Dead Join date: 28 Mar 2005 Posts: 2,648	12-31-2005 19:54 From: Aliasi Stonebender Just a little something I found by my shop today. Y'know, I'll defend the right of "IMPEACH BUSH", given bush is a public figure, there's no law against ugly builds nor should there be, etc, etc... but this is a direct threat towards me and my group, who own much of the Eldora sim between us. (The squid is our logo.) I can't name names, of course, but someday, perhaps, I'll be allowed to. Garnet and I had this happen to us a long time ago (on a much smaller scale though). It's a direct TOS violation that should be AR'ed. _____________________ . black art furniture & classic clothing =================== Black in Neufreistadt Black @ ONE Black @ www.SLBoutique.com .
Dragon Steele Artist/conservationist Join date: 3 Jan 2005 Posts: 183	12-31-2005 21:04 From: Dianne Mechanique Garnet and I had this happen to us a long time ago (on a much smaller scale though). It's a direct TOS violation that should be AR'ed. yup it is report it _____________________ Boycot the spam farms and the ads on them. Ban the spamers from your land. Look for the clocktower network for a blacklist to put on you land that is grid wide.
Daz Honey Fine, Fine Artist Join date: 27 Jun 2005 Posts: 599	12-31-2005 21:12 what kind of tard would do that? if you dont like a shop dont go there. of course there might be more to this story than you are telling us. I can tell you from my experience of having my little newbie shop completely wiped off the map by an oldbie I was renting from really hurt.... _____________________ All children are artists. The problem is how to remain an artist once he grows up. - Pablo Picasso
Aliasi Stonebender Return of Catbread Join date: 30 Jan 2005 Posts: 1,858	12-31-2005 21:41 From: Daz Honey what kind of tard would do that? if you dont like a shop dont go there. of course there might be more to this story than you are telling us. I can tell you from my experience of having my little newbie shop completely wiped off the map by an oldbie I was renting from really hurt.... Well, there is, but nothing of these extent. My group sells off some land to meet tier, land gets bought by guy who puts ugly spinny FOR SALE signs up with loud, noisy chimes playing audible from across the sim and marks it for twice the going rate, I try to reason with guy, attempt fails as he pulls a Divine, I put up walls and a sign (on our land - we surround this plot, since we sold it off) warning off from buying the guy's land, he decides to try to intimidate everybody in the group on land he BOUGHT FROM US. Given the account was created the very day the land was bought, it belongs to no groups, no ratings, etc, it's an obvious alt, and while there are people who, for one reason or another, might want to annoy the hell out of us, there's not a great deal of offensive action on our part. _____________________ Red Mary says, softly, “How a man grows aggressive when his enemy displays propriety. He thinks: I will use this good behavior to enforce my advantage over her. Is it any wonder people hold good behavior in such disregard?” Anything Surplus Home to the "Nuke the Crap Out of..." series of games and other stuff
Jeffrey Gomez Cubed™ Join date: 11 Jun 2004 Posts: 3,522	12-31-2005 21:43 Pretty lame. Had a look in-world. Things are stacked from the ground all the way to 200-300m or so, land price set to extortion levels and, of course, salable. Yay, Capitalism. Par for the course. Abuse Report the person - name and join date peg it an alt anyway. Past that... all that you can continue to do is build to the skyline around it, since it doesn't look like the things are physical or anything. If they were I would have cough blown them away personally. _____________________ ---
Daz Honey Fine, Fine Artist Join date: 27 Jun 2005 Posts: 599	12-31-2005 21:50 From: Aliasi Stonebender Well, there is, but nothing of these extent. My group sells off some land to meet tier, land gets bought by guy who puts ugly spinny FOR SALE signs up with loud, noisy chimes playing audible from across the sim and marks it for twice the going rate, I try to reason with guy, attempt fails as he pulls a Divine, I put up walls and a sign (on our land - we surround this plot, since we sold it off) warning off from buying the guy's land, he decides to try to intimidate everybody in the group on land he BOUGHT FROM US. Given the account was created the very day the land was bought, it belongs to no groups, no ratings, etc, it's an obvious alt, and while there are people who, for one reason or another, might want to annoy the hell out of us, there's not a great deal of offensive action on our part. I'm not doubting your side of the story but it sounds like there must be a reason why someone buys land then doesn't want to sell (as it's twice the rate right?) then goes to the trouble to build ugly prims making him look like an idiot no one would trust to buy from anyway. Where's Scooby Doo when you need him, my guess is that one of your group is doing this... _____________________ All children are artists. The problem is how to remain an artist once he grows up. - Pablo Picasso
Garnet Psaltery Walking on the Moon Join date: 12 Apr 2005 Posts: 913	01-02-2006 16:07 From: Dianne Mechanique Garnet and I had this happen to us a long time ago (on a much smaller scale though). It's a direct TOS violation that should be AR'ed. Oh my, I'd forgotten about that! This brings back all the terrible feelings it gave me at the time. My sympathies, Aliasi. A little while later ..... Ah, it's gone, hooray! _____________________
Gabe Lippmann "Phone's ringing, Dude." Join date: 14 Jun 2004 Posts: 4,219	01-02-2006 16:25 From: Aliasi Stonebender I put up walls and a sign (on our land - we surround this plot, since we sold it off) warning off from buying the guy's land, he decides to try to intimidate everybody in the group on land he BOUGHT FROM US. I'm not condoning the person's little tower, but after this maneuver, did you expect the issue to die a nice, easy death? _____________________ go to Nocturnal Threads
Aliasi Stonebender Return of Catbread Join date: 30 Jan 2005 Posts: 1,858	01-02-2006 16:37 From: Gabe Lippmann I'm not condoning the person's little tower, but after this maneuver, did you expect the issue to die a nice, easy death? Not particularly, no. Impulsive action has ever been a weakness of mine. There's a fair difference between a "this land is overpriced, don't buy it" and the sort of threat shown here, though. But yes, after the Laz Divine issue, I admit I was hypersensitive to that kind of thing. OTOH, it's another in a series of actions that's turned me from a believer in the main grid to seriously considering a private sim. Although, given my involvement in Neualtenburg, I may just increase my holdings there. _____________________ Red Mary says, softly, “How a man grows aggressive when his enemy displays propriety. He thinks: I will use this good behavior to enforce my advantage over her. Is it any wonder people hold good behavior in such disregard?” Anything Surplus Home to the "Nuke the Crap Out of..." series of games and other stuff
Dianne Mechanique Back from the Dead Join date: 28 Mar 2005 Posts: 2,648	01-03-2006 10:07 From: Aliasi Stonebender ...There's a fair difference between a "this land is overpriced, don't buy it" and the sort of threat shown here, though.... Yikes! I agree there's a difference and also that this person started all the problems, but.. the "don't buy it" part is as much a violation as what he ended up doing. "land is overpriced" = fact "don't buy it" = grief _____________________ . black art furniture & classic clothing =================== Black in Neufreistadt Black @ ONE Black @ www.SLBoutique.com .