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Zac Bunderfeld

Registered User

Join date: 19 Mar 2004

Posts: 16

09-05-2004 16:18

Today I got Poser 4, and started playing with it. I get one of two results when previewing the anim in SL:

"Failed to initialize motion..." or something like that.

AND

A female avatar that twitches slightly, no matter how I do the sliders.

What am I doing wrong? Ive read that I need to use Poser 2 figures but I dont have any...

-Zac

Daniel Jacobs

Registered Dork

Join date: 3 Jun 2004

Posts: 4

Poser 2 Figures?

09-06-2004 04:38

Hi -

I too am interested in this, as I have Poser 5 and version 5 export to bvh into SL causes weird actions. Version 4 figures seem more reliable, but still a little shakey with hand motions, etc.

I tried a version 2 figure and it did not work well either. Maybe there is something I am doing wrong. I try very hard to learn all options. Overwhelming at first, but getting easier as time goes by. Now, to just get them to animate correctly in SL

Any advice or assistance is greatly appreciated

Ghoti Nyak

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Join date: 7 Aug 2004

Posts: 2,078

09-06-2004 09:01

Must be something in the air. I got Poser yesterday as well, and I'm getting the same results.

I'm wondering if there's specific parameters that need to be met for an anim to import.

Any help would be appreciated.

-Ghoti

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Ghoti Nyak

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Join date: 7 Aug 2004

Posts: 2,078

09-06-2004 10:13

Search the forums, folks... the answers are here.

I got it to work on the fifth try. Part of the answer is to use Poser 2 figures due to certain bits we dont model the same in Poser and SL.

-Ghoti

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Chip Midnight

ate my baby!

Join date: 1 May 2003

Posts: 10,231

09-06-2004 17:33

Make sure there are no keyframes in your animation for fingers, toes, buttocks, genitals, or eyes. If there are, delete them.

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Ghoti Nyak

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Posts: 2,078

09-07-2004 07:36

Yes indeed... and as someone mentioned, the Poser 2 models do not have those bits to animate, so use Poser 2 models, and it seems to work great.

Now I jsut need to figure out Poser more. Hehehe... bought the online version with just the PDF manual... makes it hard to do and read at the same time, but that's what printouts are for! Yay!

Too much fun for words. Already making my first kissy furniture. =)

-Ghoti

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Zac Bunderfeld

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Join date: 19 Mar 2004

Posts: 16

09-07-2004 09:31

One problem...where can I GET some Poser 2 figures??

-Zac

Ghoti Nyak

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Posts: 2,078

09-07-2004 10:02

Well, in Poser 5, (and I got it Sunday so my terminology will be vague), you will see a control panel popup thing. Click it and its a pallette of things to open. I think the top one is 'figues'. Click on that one and it will expand. You'll see folders with different labels. Find Poser 2 and double click. A variety of figures are there. Male, female, adult and child... and various resolutions too, I think. Double-click the figure you want to use and it should load. There might be an easier way to get at these too.

Sorry for any inaccuracies... like I said, I'm a Poser newbie.

Hope this helps!

-Ghoti

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"Sometimes I believe that this less material life is our truer life, and that our vain presence on the terraqueous globe is itself the secondary or merely virtual phenomenon." ~ H.P. Lovecraft

Zac Bunderfeld

Registered User

Join date: 19 Mar 2004

Posts: 16

09-07-2004 11:46

Um...okay...I found a Poser 2 dude and made him in a pose then tried to upload...

Failed to initialize motion.

I dont get it...

-Zac

Jillian Callahan

Rotary-winged Neko Girl

Join date: 24 Jun 2004

Posts: 3,766

09-07-2004 19:12

I am under the impression Poser 4 fails to make a fully standard BVH file, and isn't compatible with SL. I never could get Poser 4 to make anything that worked, at any rate.

Ended up having to get Poser 5... expensive!

Daniel Jacobs

Registered Dork

Join date: 3 Jun 2004

Posts: 4

Using Poser 2 Characters

09-07-2004 21:00

I have discovered that using Poser 2 characters works quite well ... small problems have to do with my lack of knowledge of how things work. For example, raising a character off the ground by lifting the hips looks horrendous in Poser 5 character view ... looks like he's really stretched. But, when played back, it displays perfect. Export bvh or export to avi both display well.

I started exporting bvh files and importing into Life Forms 4 for checking. If I can successfully export to Life Forms 4, and the character is animated the way I want it, then it "should" work fine when uploaded to SL. So far, I've uploaded some pretty crazy anims, with only just a few that work like I expected. Things are getting better now, though.

I'm using a 14-day demo of Life Forms 4, and have little intention of buying at this point, but it has already helped me learn a lot about animating and exporting bvh files from Poser 5. It might help you too

I want to thank all of you here for helping me learn more about how to animate characters. When I first came here, I was at quite a loss. Now, I have a clue and a place to start working from, as well as some direction.

You guys are the best!

)

Ghoti Nyak

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Join date: 7 Aug 2004

Posts: 2,078

09-08-2004 07:06

Yeah, this is a blast! I made a couple cuddle pillows already. hehehe

-Ghoti

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Ghoti Nyak

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Join date: 7 Aug 2004

Posts: 2,078

09-08-2004 07:07

Oh! what is Life Forms 4? Ohhh.... I googled it... EXPENSIVE!! Holy mackerel! What does this add that Poser can't do?

-Ghoti

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Zac Bunderfeld Registered User Join date: 19 Mar 2004 Posts: 16	09-05-2004 16:18 Today I got Poser 4, and started playing with it. I get one of two results when previewing the anim in SL: "Failed to initialize motion..." or something like that. AND A female avatar that twitches slightly, no matter how I do the sliders. What am I doing wrong? Ive read that I need to use Poser 2 figures but I dont have any... -Zac
Daniel Jacobs Registered Dork Join date: 3 Jun 2004 Posts: 4	Poser 2 Figures? 09-06-2004 04:38 Hi - I too am interested in this, as I have Poser 5 and version 5 export to bvh into SL causes weird actions. Version 4 figures seem more reliable, but still a little shakey with hand motions, etc. I tried a version 2 figure and it did not work well either. Maybe there is something I am doing wrong. I try very hard to learn all options. Overwhelming at first, but getting easier as time goes by. Now, to just get them to animate correctly in SL Any advice or assistance is greatly appreciated
Ghoti Nyak καλλιστι Join date: 7 Aug 2004 Posts: 2,078	09-06-2004 09:01 Must be something in the air. I got Poser yesterday as well, and I'm getting the same results. I'm wondering if there's specific parameters that need to be met for an anim to import. Any help would be appreciated. -Ghoti _____________________ "Sometimes I believe that this less material life is our truer life, and that our vain presence on the terraqueous globe is itself the secondary or merely virtual phenomenon." ~ H.P. Lovecraft
Ghoti Nyak καλλιστι Join date: 7 Aug 2004 Posts: 2,078	09-06-2004 10:13 Search the forums, folks... the answers are here. I got it to work on the fifth try. Part of the answer is to use Poser 2 figures due to certain bits we dont model the same in Poser and SL. -Ghoti _____________________ "Sometimes I believe that this less material life is our truer life, and that our vain presence on the terraqueous globe is itself the secondary or merely virtual phenomenon." ~ H.P. Lovecraft
Chip Midnight ate my baby! Join date: 1 May 2003 Posts: 10,231	09-06-2004 17:33 Make sure there are no keyframes in your animation for fingers, toes, buttocks, genitals, or eyes. If there are, delete them. _____________________ My other hobby: www.live365.com/stations/chip_midnight
Ghoti Nyak καλλιστι Join date: 7 Aug 2004 Posts: 2,078	09-07-2004 07:36 Yes indeed... and as someone mentioned, the Poser 2 models do not have those bits to animate, so use Poser 2 models, and it seems to work great. Now I jsut need to figure out Poser more. Hehehe... bought the online version with just the PDF manual... makes it hard to do and read at the same time, but that's what printouts are for! Yay! Too much fun for words. Already making my first kissy furniture. =) -Ghoti _____________________ "Sometimes I believe that this less material life is our truer life, and that our vain presence on the terraqueous globe is itself the secondary or merely virtual phenomenon." ~ H.P. Lovecraft
Zac Bunderfeld Registered User Join date: 19 Mar 2004 Posts: 16	09-07-2004 09:31 One problem...where can I GET some Poser 2 figures?? -Zac
Ghoti Nyak καλλιστι Join date: 7 Aug 2004 Posts: 2,078	09-07-2004 10:02 Well, in Poser 5, (and I got it Sunday so my terminology will be vague), you will see a control panel popup thing. Click it and its a pallette of things to open. I think the top one is 'figues'. Click on that one and it will expand. You'll see folders with different labels. Find Poser 2 and double click. A variety of figures are there. Male, female, adult and child... and various resolutions too, I think. Double-click the figure you want to use and it should load. There might be an easier way to get at these too. Sorry for any inaccuracies... like I said, I'm a Poser newbie. Hope this helps! -Ghoti _____________________ "Sometimes I believe that this less material life is our truer life, and that our vain presence on the terraqueous globe is itself the secondary or merely virtual phenomenon." ~ H.P. Lovecraft
Zac Bunderfeld Registered User Join date: 19 Mar 2004 Posts: 16	09-07-2004 11:46 Um...okay...I found a Poser 2 dude and made him in a pose then tried to upload... Failed to initialize motion. I dont get it... -Zac
Jillian Callahan Rotary-winged Neko Girl Join date: 24 Jun 2004 Posts: 3,766	09-07-2004 19:12 I am under the impression Poser 4 fails to make a fully standard BVH file, and isn't compatible with SL. I never could get Poser 4 to make anything that worked, at any rate. Ended up having to get Poser 5... expensive!
Daniel Jacobs Registered Dork Join date: 3 Jun 2004 Posts: 4	Using Poser 2 Characters 09-07-2004 21:00 I have discovered that using Poser 2 characters works quite well ... small problems have to do with my lack of knowledge of how things work. For example, raising a character off the ground by lifting the hips looks horrendous in Poser 5 character view ... looks like he's really stretched. But, when played back, it displays perfect. Export bvh or export to avi both display well. I started exporting bvh files and importing into Life Forms 4 for checking. If I can successfully export to Life Forms 4, and the character is animated the way I want it, then it "should" work fine when uploaded to SL. So far, I've uploaded some pretty crazy anims, with only just a few that work like I expected. Things are getting better now, though. I'm using a 14-day demo of Life Forms 4, and have little intention of buying at this point, but it has already helped me learn a lot about animating and exporting bvh files from Poser 5. It might help you too I want to thank all of you here for helping me learn more about how to animate characters. When I first came here, I was at quite a loss. Now, I have a clue and a place to start working from, as well as some direction. You guys are the best! )
Ghoti Nyak καλλιστι Join date: 7 Aug 2004 Posts: 2,078	09-08-2004 07:06 Yeah, this is a blast! I made a couple cuddle pillows already. hehehe -Ghoti _____________________ "Sometimes I believe that this less material life is our truer life, and that our vain presence on the terraqueous globe is itself the secondary or merely virtual phenomenon." ~ H.P. Lovecraft
Ghoti Nyak καλλιστι Join date: 7 Aug 2004 Posts: 2,078	09-08-2004 07:07 Oh! what is Life Forms 4? Ohhh.... I googled it... EXPENSIVE!! Holy mackerel! What does this add that Poser can't do? -Ghoti _____________________ "Sometimes I believe that this less material life is our truer life, and that our vain presence on the terraqueous globe is itself the secondary or merely virtual phenomenon." ~ H.P. Lovecraft