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Stand still for heaven's sakes!

Ephraim Kappler
Reprobate
Join date: 9 Jul 2007
Posts: 1,946
10-11-2008 08:49
Can anyone recommend a good set of subtle, almost stationary male stand poses for an animation overrider? Animators seem to be hell-bent on stamping their work with distinctive ticks (checking the time, ruffling hair, shifting from one foot to the next, behaving flirtatiously/thuggishly), which is perhaps understandable - they need to catch folk's attention to make a living after all.

But I would sure like to find a range of poses that look stylish and dignified, do not distort the avatar mesh and *don't* grate on my nerves after living with them for a time. Neck-free would be a desirable feature.
Dylan Rickenbacker
Animator
Join date: 11 Oct 2006
Posts: 365
10-11-2008 10:10
Hi Ephraim, I can't say I've got a full range of AO poses in my portfolio yet, but I'm adding new ones constantly, and the ones I have are aiming to do just what you want. Look up my picks in my profile and tp to my shop at Animations Universe to have a look.
Bree Giffen
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Join date: 22 Jun 2006
Posts: 2,715
10-11-2008 11:18
I use AO poses from a store called Second Frame I think. They are just basic non-moving stands. I'm not sure if they can be used by males but they have quite a few to choose from.
Ephraim Kappler
Reprobate
Join date: 9 Jul 2007
Posts: 1,946
10-11-2008 14:13
From: Dylan Rickenbacker
... the ones I have are aiming to do just what you want.

I checked out the three stand poses you have at Animation Universe, Dylan. They're very nicely done and reasonably priced so I bought all three. I look forward to using them although they're not really what I'm looking for: only one of the set is neck-free, for instance, which is important to me since I like to look directly at others while I'm talking to them.

Something else I should have mentioned is that I prefer copy/no transfer permissions because I maintain several HUDS for different situations. Perhaps you could offer the alternative as some animators do?

From: Bree Giffen
They are just basic non-moving stands.

Non-moving stands just don't work for me, Bree. Even the default stands in SL have motion in them. I guess they're easily dismissed because of the association with noobieness. Nevertheless the rise and fall of the avatar's chest was a deciding factor for me on my first day at Orientation Island. I stuck with Second Life because of that singular little detail.

Having made that point, the SL stands are still a little too active for my taste. To be more specific, I'd like a set of *really* subtle poses with smooth animation certainly but I envisage 'paint-drying' action here. Taking a breath, turning a foot *very* slightly outwards, a *slight* swing of an arm or perhaps an absentminded touch to a shirt or jacket button at the navel. I'd be happy with a set of 30 second animations that each did just one of those things and of course blended nicely together.

It isn't just a matter of moving an arm or a leg either: I would expect the shoulders to tilt slightly, the torso to have a little torsion as an arm bends. To give another example, weight should shift almost imperceptibly from one hip to another when a foot turns.

Folding arms would be acceptable - either across the chest or behind the back or even hands folded over one another like you might do at a funeral service. A gentle swing of the hips, perhaps rocking slightly on the balls of the feet would also work: the kind of things you might do when you have to stand still for an extended period of time.

In fact I've just realised that I'm thinking of just that: a set of poses for a very serious occasion.
Gaia Clary
mesh weaver
Join date: 30 May 2007
Posts: 884
10-18-2008 03:57
Ephraim, i second your opinion.

I tried out several AO's and although the animations are typically of very high quality, they typically do not serve my "everyday" purposes. I also would like to see more still pose sets and definitely i don't like all these girlish poses with head tilted or bended down. when i am just walking along and make conversation... Hey i want to look straight into your eyes when talking. This is especially true for meetings and when lips movement with voice comes into play... oh, and i also don't like the idea of "30 different poses in 2 minutes". That makes me crazy.

So any hint for subtle pose creations for women out there ?