Poser 6 is out

Well I decided to try this and I find I have to get Poser 6 not 5. I guess it is brand new and improved. I downloded the files SL wants youto use and followed the instructions found from a link here for Poser 5 well it did not work exactly as it said it would, and when I went to upload the exported *.bvh file to SL I get "Unable to read animation file. Can't get rotation values" error.

Because I am new and it is so new I donot know what went wrong. I figure I did something wrong. But that error message does not help figure out what.

If anyone upgrades and gets thesame errors can you post it here. If there is something different can you post it also. This thing is not cheep and I would love to use it and make anaimationsfor SL.Right now I am stuck

Thank you in advance

Coos

I don't know Poser. So this could be useless.
But maybe try to find a option to save it as a poser 5 file.

I just tryed useing the file on the How to as a .pz3 file and Opened it and exported it to .bvh file and still get the error. Hmmm Now I am realy wondering if it is all my fault or not.

Could be SL may not like it! If that is the case then I am sure there will be an additional update to fix it to allow for the differences. In the mean time till someone who does this all the time trys it and has problems I have an expecive chuck of wasted hard drive space till I find out more.

Coos,

I reported this problem to Xenon Linden today and sent a sample BVH file to him - it appears that Poser 6 has made some change to the BVH export which is imcompatible with SL (which is frustrating because I like Poser 6 a lot more than 5). Hopefully there will be a solution soon.

eek, I have only used Poser 5, but was very interested in purchasing Poser 6... Thanks for posting this... I will not be upgrading until I know it works well with SL.

Cris,

What do you like better about Poser 6? Curious to know the differences

Thank you! Cristiano for letting me know that L Labs is awhare of this problem. I submitted a bug report with a picture of the error. When you are new, and the software is new. Not to mention you are uploading to picky software (SL) You have NO Idea what went wrong.

When I tryed the alredy made file and expoted it and it failed I did suspect the picky software was at fault. hehehe Oh well I will wait and see. I sure that L labs wants people to be able to use Poser 6 because people new to animations have to bye it now. Poser 5 is no longer avalable.

I am sure once it works in SL I will have fun with it.

Poser Artist is basically Poser 4 and it will still work just fine with SL. Poser 5 has some significant improvements over 4 but not many of them translate into being useful for SL. Look around and you may find copies of Poser 5 dirt cheap as 6 comes out. Since SL uses Poser 2 models, Poser 3 could probabaly be used and it was being given away in magazines.

If Poser 6 is anything like Poser 5, don't buy it right off. Give it a couple of months to see if it is worth buying. Poser 5 was basically junk when it came out and a couple of months after release you could pick it up for a fraction of the original price. After the release of several patches it finally became useful a year or so later.

ive made all my animations and poses with poser 4 and it works great

Poser 3 apparently does /not/ work, from what I understand. There were some issues with it, at least, when animations were first added. Maybe these have been worked out.

I thought if the reason you have standardized file formats is so this would not happen. So the make of the tool can improve there product but the user programs would be able to use the file no mater what tool made it. If you need to change the format come out with a new format.

Well then why should I get stuck with 6 if it is not going to be usefull to me? I could get an older ver. but then I am stuck with a gig of Poser 6 that does not work.

Now L labs is stuck to they will end up eather making it compatable. Or saying to the public "Well only the people lucky enough to have something that works can make animations." They want content. The more people makeing "it" for them. The better it is for them.

Standardized file formats are a myth, nearly.

Yeah, there are a few fairly standardized ones. As far as most people are aware. But even simple formats like .rtf have problems being exactly the same across programs. Or HTML, for that matter.

That said, I'm really surprised Curious Labs, if they were going to change the way poser exported to .bvh, didn't include a backwards compatability option.

That said, and I wish LL made this clearer... For SL animations, anything more than Poser Artist is overkill. Hell, Poser Artist is overkill. You will never touch 90% or better of the stuff in there. Or, let me rephrase that. You may, but you wouldn't need to.

I see I do have a useless Poser 6.0 I go and check the web site for crummy Oh a that curious labs and see they have Poser Artist Fourth edition will if you click the link it takes you to Poser 6.0 sales page. seems they are no longer selling that any more! I looked at there so called knolage base it is less than useless.

I see Amazon is selling it for $92 well that brings my grand total to do animations in SL to $375 US I will have to sell alot of stuff in SL to make up for that.

I did submit a bug report to them telling them there is a post on this foum Do not bye Poser 6 yet. So they will see they are not going to get upgrades from here unless they do something.

FYI my SL bug report # for this is 40778. If anyone cares. I love the wording on there letter they send us I like the part "Please concider the matter resolved" Hmm them I should be able to use Poser 6 now. Wrong! Oh well I guess Amazon will make some money from me soon. Ido not see this being "resolved" soon

You can get Poser5 at Renderosity here

Renderosity


I got Poser Artist from Curious Labs befer 6 was released, and it was there then.. maybe just give it a few days.. I also pre-ordered 6 from the site but havn't had a chance to play with it yet for SL... I've been too busy with product reviews and product testing for regular poser and bryce stuff... hahaha

It's very interresting to know that I won't be ableto do animations there... perhaps this would be a good time, with the next release of SL in beta, to upgrade the models in it to something a little more human looking.. as well as redo the UV mapping so clothing drawn between the legs dont' run half way down the thighs..


hehehe just a few thoughts.. Hope you can get 5 from Renderosity.. their purchasing system is pretty easy.. there is a small wait for new customers while a credit car's security numbers are checked. But if you're right on top of it and talk to Clint or Debbie directly, you could have yours in a couple hours.

Don't buy Poser 5 or Poser Artist just yet - I contacted Curious Lab this morning, and they escalated the problem to their engineers - it is something that slipped by in release. Hopefully I will get back an answer soon. It would be a shame for you to buy Poser 5 just to have Poser 6 become useable fairly quickly.

I called them this morning and when I said I took a known good Poser *cz3 file opened then exported it. Then I uploaded it to SL and SL choked on it I got an "Ohhhh thats bad" on the phone. So he said they would look into it. He said he had just replyed to one report about this for SL just before I called. (most likely yours) Sounds like they will have to eather change it back or put a menu selection Export to Old ver *.bvh file. Makes me no difference so long as it will work for SL.

At least it will get fixed. One way or another. I beleve sence it is a real incompatablity problem the fix will be there faster from them.

Like I said, you really need to wait before buying their high priced beta ware. They have a proven track record of blundering releases. Sigh, you try to tell 'em but them younguns just don't listen...

We should be used to paying to use betaware We do it everyday we log in to SL

Yep, I'm using Poser 6, too late now to go back (earlier version) since reading through this thread. Any solution/work around to this issue yet? I'm just trying to flap my freaking arms! It looks so great in poser, lol. That is a wonderful tutorial that has been posted. Also, are there any animation tips/classes in game? Thanks all!

Has anyone been using Poser 6 lately? Does it work for SL?

Ingrid,

Poser 6 works fine now with SL - it did not work with SL at release because of a change in how it exported BVH files. You could still get it to work with SL by running a script I posted, but it was a pain in the ass to do it on every single file you work on. Luckily, there has been a service release that fixes the problem, so 6 can be used with no problems now.

/52/2a/48930/1.html

There is the post with the link for the update.

Thanks Cris!

Also, you had a poser tutorial on SL Universe at some point no? I clicked on "knowledge base" and got an error.

Ingrid,

I was screwing around with something earlier and I messed up the whole site except Snapzilla it's back to normal now. However, I have never had a Poser tutorial - I keep meaning to make one. Perhaps I will sit down and do a simple one now and make a more complex one later. If I do, it will be there

Ingrid,

Ulrike has a good basic tutorial at:
http://www.ulrikasheim.org/animation/tutorial-basic.html

The intermediate and advanced tutorial that she has promised are still outstanding. Maybe she will offer them soon.

Also, the tutorial works fine with 6 eventhough it says it is for Poser 5.

There is a file you can use to cleanup the .bhv files, so that they are compatible with sl. its called bvhcleanup.py

its available at this link:

http://www.e-frontier.com/article/articleview/1393/1/596/

Its at the bottom of the page.

you use it, by saving the pose as a .bhv, then go to file, run python script, choose bvhcleanup.py, then choose the .bhv file you saved. you will get a window that tells you that certain lines of the code were removed(the parts that make it incompatible with sl), and then you can load your animation into sl, without any trouble.


I missed the link given above, so I just wound up reposting this info. oh well, lol.