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MarkByron Falta

Just an average bird

Join date: 16 Jun 2007

Posts: 168

05-02-2008 08:47

This is a first folks and borders on the miraculous. I used the new Release Candidate last night and did NOT, I repeat NOT crash at all! I cannot recall the last time that I used an SL official client for such a lengthy period without crashing....

Well it was a one time miracle. I'm back to crashing on a routine basis, often after teleporting and using the cam to pan around. I've also noticed the situation where I get sudden prim or surface patch graphic distortions (i.e. gross enlongations) and within 30 seconds, a crash occurs.

http://jira.secondlife.com/browse/VWR-6343

Yrrek Gran

Crackpot Inventor

Join date: 20 Oct 2006

Posts: 209

0 FPS worse than crashing

05-02-2008 08:59

I went from 23fps to 0 - 1fps.

Downloaded it to another slower PC and am getting 2fps.

Anyone else seen this?

Imnotgoing Sideways

Can't outlaw cute! =^-^=

Join date: 17 Nov 2007

Posts: 4,694

05-02-2008 09:11

RC4 and 5 have been nice to me. The region crossing blackouts, land texture loss, and prim flickers are all gone. I've had a couple of crashes, but no real memory overload or leak issue. I have been seeing more grayness than usual, but I'd sooner blame the servers or my internets for that. (^_^)y

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Edward Kyomoon

Registered User

Join date: 4 Dec 2006

Posts: 16

05-02-2008 10:36

I agree RC 5 is much more stable in many respects, i like the new camera controls, tap-tap-run is cool, and they seemed to have fixed a few annoying bugs, but the frame rates have definitely dropped. compared to 1.19.1.4 and the Nicholaz EyeCandy EC-e versions, performance goes from 15-30fps down to 2-10fps in RC 5. even just looking at the ground or sky i was only getting 10-15 fps on RC5 while other versions go to 30 fps or higher in same region with the same view, same settings.

2.4GHz Macbook Pro
2GB RAM
ndivia 8600m 256MB
bootcamped with Vista

MarkByron Falta

Just an average bird

Join date: 16 Jun 2007

Posts: 168

05-02-2008 11:20

On the low FPS, I usually unrender clouds and turn off atmospheric shaders and water reflections. Generally gives a sufficient bump on FPS and using sun/moon only on lighting, unrendering fog & particles, and reducing draw distance are the next steps. I'd rather use the Nicholaz client but it needs a fix to allow TP and edit above 768.

Yrrek Gran

Crackpot Inventor

Join date: 20 Oct 2006

Posts: 209

Resolved!

05-02-2008 11:34

Voice was enabled on default! I have heard of others having poor performance with voice but never used it so I did not realize how bad it can be.

Now I can move on my crappy system at work. Can't wait to get home and TURN OFF voice, lol!

Geeze!

Imnotgoing Sideways

Can't outlaw cute! =^-^=

Join date: 17 Nov 2007

Posts: 4,694

05-02-2008 11:52

From: Edward Kyomoon

...compared to 1.19.1.4 and the Nicholaz EyeCandy EC-e versions, performance goes from 15-30fps down to 2-10fps in RC 5...

WOW! (O_O)... I've been seeing the opposite. For me 1.19.1 has been running at 15-20 frames and 1.20.4/5 has been running 15-30 frames. I haven't tried AA this time around because I run at really hi-res so I don't get much stairstepping. (^_^)y

_____________________

Somewhere in this world; there is someone having some good clean fun doing the one thing you hate the most. (^_^)y

http://slurl.com/secondlife/Ferguson/54/237/94

Geister Pfeffer

Registered User

Join date: 5 Jan 2008

Posts: 28

05-04-2008 17:49

From: MarkByron Falta

This is a first folks and borders on the miraculous. I used the new Release Candidate last night and did NOT, I repeat NOT crash at all! I cannot recall the last time that I used an SL official client for such a lengthy period without crashing....

Well it was a one time miracle. I'm back to crashing on a routine basis, often after teleporting and using the cam to pan around. I've also noticed the situation where I get sudden prim or surface patch graphic distortions (i.e. gross enlongations) and within 30 seconds, a crash occurs.

http://jira.secondlife.com/browse/VWR-6343

Yes, no Crash, but everything in the Grid is so slow as never before.

And.. i cannot switch to my normal resolution, 1600 x 1200..
800 x 600 on 22" monitor is incredible

regards,...Geister

Bluesman Wycliffe

Registered User

Join date: 19 Feb 2008

Posts: 74

05-04-2008 20:04

Well think yourself lucky .. I've had nothing but crashes on 3X Linux machines with RC5, It really is doing my head in I hope they dont make this viewer mandatory until its sorted, BUT RC4 was fine hardly a crash at all.
So they fixed something for you but broke it for me.

Sometimes a crash every ten mins.. VERY FRUSTRATING !!

Suzan Littlething

Registered User

Join date: 30 Jul 2007

Posts: 14

05-05-2008 04:34

RC5 works very well on my Linux laptop, better then all versions before.

I am still investigating, if "bump mapping and shining" leads to more crashes or not. It feels for me, that I have a looooooot less crashes when I deactivate it. Anyone else can confirm this?

(Run SL RC5 on Ubuntu Linux 8.04, Nvidia GeForce Go 7300)

Bluesman Wycliffe

Registered User

Join date: 19 Feb 2008

Posts: 74

05-05-2008 07:51

From: Suzan Littlething

RC5 works very well on my Linux laptop, better then all versions before.

I am still investigating, if "bump mapping and shining" leads to more crashes or not. It feels for me, that I have a looooooot less crashes when I deactivate it. Anyone else can confirm this?

(Run SL RC5 on Ubuntu Linux 8.04, Nvidia GeForce Go 7300)

Well if I drop my graphics from Ultra to medium I get alot less crashes, but why should I , I like the way things look on Ultra. on RC4 I lived in ultra and hardly a crash.
Hopefully though these problems will be resolved before the mandatory update.
I'm guessing Hardy is alot to do with my personal problems though, Its pretty buggy to say the least for a LTS release as the Ubuntu forums will tell you .

Whatever happens though I'll work through it , not many problems are insurmountable.

toto Siemens

Registered User

Join date: 9 Feb 2008

Posts: 1

05-07-2008 07:47

I tryed the two latest relase 4 and 5. For my have same problems, they takes too much memory when you stay along into same place. I try to open task manager and see how much memory is taken by sl. It start about 200 MB and increase, increase, increase also you still in a empty sim. After 20-30 min arrive to 800-900 MB and all is freezed for me, I have 1-2 fps, only if I tp to other location I can solve this for anther 10 min. I think something is wrong to erase memory that still full of olds dates. I have centrino duo 1.66 Mhz
3 Gb ram and graphics ati x1600 512 Mb.
I'm back to 1.19 version that not have this big problem.

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MarkByron Falta Just an average bird Join date: 16 Jun 2007 Posts: 168	05-02-2008 08:47 This is a first folks and borders on the miraculous. I used the new Release Candidate last night and did NOT, I repeat NOT crash at all! I cannot recall the last time that I used an SL official client for such a lengthy period without crashing.... Well it was a one time miracle. I'm back to crashing on a routine basis, often after teleporting and using the cam to pan around. I've also noticed the situation where I get sudden prim or surface patch graphic distortions (i.e. gross enlongations) and within 30 seconds, a crash occurs. http://jira.secondlife.com/browse/VWR-6343
Yrrek Gran Crackpot Inventor Join date: 20 Oct 2006 Posts: 209	0 FPS worse than crashing 05-02-2008 08:59 I went from 23fps to 0 - 1fps. Downloaded it to another slower PC and am getting 2fps. Anyone else seen this?
Imnotgoing Sideways Can't outlaw cute! =^-^= Join date: 17 Nov 2007 Posts: 4,694	05-02-2008 09:11 RC4 and 5 have been nice to me. The region crossing blackouts, land texture loss, and prim flickers are all gone. I've had a couple of crashes, but no real memory overload or leak issue. I have been seeing more grayness than usual, but I'd sooner blame the servers or my internets for that. (^_^)y _____________________ Somewhere in this world; there is someone having some good clean fun doing the one thing you hate the most. (^_^)y http://slurl.com/secondlife/Ferguson/54/237/94
Edward Kyomoon Registered User Join date: 4 Dec 2006 Posts: 16	05-02-2008 10:36 I agree RC 5 is much more stable in many respects, i like the new camera controls, tap-tap-run is cool, and they seemed to have fixed a few annoying bugs, but the frame rates have definitely dropped. compared to 1.19.1.4 and the Nicholaz EyeCandy EC-e versions, performance goes from 15-30fps down to 2-10fps in RC 5. even just looking at the ground or sky i was only getting 10-15 fps on RC5 while other versions go to 30 fps or higher in same region with the same view, same settings. 2.4GHz Macbook Pro 2GB RAM ndivia 8600m 256MB bootcamped with Vista
MarkByron Falta Just an average bird Join date: 16 Jun 2007 Posts: 168	05-02-2008 11:20 On the low FPS, I usually unrender clouds and turn off atmospheric shaders and water reflections. Generally gives a sufficient bump on FPS and using sun/moon only on lighting, unrendering fog & particles, and reducing draw distance are the next steps. I'd rather use the Nicholaz client but it needs a fix to allow TP and edit above 768.
Yrrek Gran Crackpot Inventor Join date: 20 Oct 2006 Posts: 209	Resolved! 05-02-2008 11:34 Voice was enabled on default! I have heard of others having poor performance with voice but never used it so I did not realize how bad it can be. Now I can move on my crappy system at work. Can't wait to get home and TURN OFF voice, lol! Geeze!
Imnotgoing Sideways Can't outlaw cute! =^-^= Join date: 17 Nov 2007 Posts: 4,694	05-02-2008 11:52 From: Edward Kyomoon ...compared to 1.19.1.4 and the Nicholaz EyeCandy EC-e versions, performance goes from 15-30fps down to 2-10fps in RC 5... WOW! (O_O)... I've been seeing the opposite. For me 1.19.1 has been running at 15-20 frames and 1.20.4/5 has been running 15-30 frames. I haven't tried AA this time around because I run at really hi-res so I don't get much stairstepping. (^_^)y _____________________ Somewhere in this world; there is someone having some good clean fun doing the one thing you hate the most. (^_^)y http://slurl.com/secondlife/Ferguson/54/237/94
Geister Pfeffer Registered User Join date: 5 Jan 2008 Posts: 28	05-04-2008 17:49 From: MarkByron Falta This is a first folks and borders on the miraculous. I used the new Release Candidate last night and did NOT, I repeat NOT crash at all! I cannot recall the last time that I used an SL official client for such a lengthy period without crashing.... Well it was a one time miracle. I'm back to crashing on a routine basis, often after teleporting and using the cam to pan around. I've also noticed the situation where I get sudden prim or surface patch graphic distortions (i.e. gross enlongations) and within 30 seconds, a crash occurs. http://jira.secondlife.com/browse/VWR-6343 Yes, no Crash, but everything in the Grid is so slow as never before. And.. i cannot switch to my normal resolution, 1600 x 1200.. 800 x 600 on 22" monitor is incredible regards,...Geister
Bluesman Wycliffe Registered User Join date: 19 Feb 2008 Posts: 74	05-04-2008 20:04 Well think yourself lucky .. I've had nothing but crashes on 3X Linux machines with RC5, It really is doing my head in I hope they dont make this viewer mandatory until its sorted, BUT RC4 was fine hardly a crash at all. So they fixed something for you but broke it for me. Sometimes a crash every ten mins.. VERY FRUSTRATING !!
Suzan Littlething Registered User Join date: 30 Jul 2007 Posts: 14	05-05-2008 04:34 RC5 works very well on my Linux laptop, better then all versions before. I am still investigating, if "bump mapping and shining" leads to more crashes or not. It feels for me, that I have a looooooot less crashes when I deactivate it. Anyone else can confirm this? (Run SL RC5 on Ubuntu Linux 8.04, Nvidia GeForce Go 7300)
Bluesman Wycliffe Registered User Join date: 19 Feb 2008 Posts: 74	05-05-2008 07:51 From: Suzan Littlething RC5 works very well on my Linux laptop, better then all versions before. I am still investigating, if "bump mapping and shining" leads to more crashes or not. It feels for me, that I have a looooooot less crashes when I deactivate it. Anyone else can confirm this? (Run SL RC5 on Ubuntu Linux 8.04, Nvidia GeForce Go 7300) Well if I drop my graphics from Ultra to medium I get alot less crashes, but why should I , I like the way things look on Ultra. on RC4 I lived in ultra and hardly a crash. Hopefully though these problems will be resolved before the mandatory update. I'm guessing Hardy is alot to do with my personal problems though, Its pretty buggy to say the least for a LTS release as the Ubuntu forums will tell you . Whatever happens though I'll work through it , not many problems are insurmountable.
toto Siemens Registered User Join date: 9 Feb 2008 Posts: 1	05-07-2008 07:47 I tryed the two latest relase 4 and 5. For my have same problems, they takes too much memory when you stay along into same place. I try to open task manager and see how much memory is taken by sl. It start about 200 MB and increase, increase, increase also you still in a empty sim. After 20-30 min arrive to 800-900 MB and all is freezed for me, I have 1-2 fps, only if I tp to other location I can solve this for anther 10 min. I think something is wrong to erase memory that still full of olds dates. I have centrino duo 1.66 Mhz 3 Gb ram and graphics ati x1600 512 Mb. I'm back to 1.19 version that not have this big problem.