Would a Free-Play Casino Be Allowed in SL?

Would someone be able to create, operate, and advertise a "casino" that was filled solely with free-play machines? The machines would have two modes of operation:

Mode 1: Prior to visiting the machine, the player obtains an attachment that records how many credits that player has. The player plays the machine using those credits.

Mode 2: The player doesn’t have the attachment. The machine can be reset to a certain number of credits and played from there.

In all cases, credits are neither transferable nor redeemable for anything. They are for bragging rights only. They are obtained by initial allotment from getting the attachment, by daily request, or by winning at the machines. They are lost by losing at the machines. The credits are stored in the attachment only and not backed up on any external database. So, if the attachment gets broken or lost, the player’s only recourse is to get a new attachment and start over.

I’m no lawyer, but, as far as I know, this would not be illegal in any real-life jurisdiction. Would it be allowed in SL and would someone be able to advertise it?

I'm sure that could be done...but who would play for nothing? You'd better have items for sale that people could buy with those credits.

Half the excitement of gambling is the fact that you could really lose something!

You couldnt call it a "Casino"

Kasino is popular

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Cacino
Caseeno

maybe also

Kacino
Casina
Casine
Casio
Kaseno
Xasino
CasinX

1. Since L does not have any value the casino is ok in SL.

2. LL does not want you to advertise it anyway.

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I still think it would be neat to make a totaly rigged slot machine that pays out exactly what you pay in. It would be complete with an updated texture saying the 1:1 odds are 100% and the rest are 0%

"Kuseeneau" and "aij-plei" are gonna be hot property in the coming year!

I agree that the appeal of real-life casinos is the prospect of winning real money and the prospect of losing real money is what keeps the betting honest. The stored credits in the attachment are a weak attempt at recreating this legally. I point to sites like Yahoo! games or any hand-held electronic casino game as proof that there is some interest in playing casino games, even if it's not for real money. I think something like this would work best as a side attraction to draw traffic more than the main attraction, but who knows. I ask this question mostly hypothetically. What is the policy?

You could have prizes able to be 'bought' by these credits, the same way tickets at Putt Putt work. These donations could be made by affiliates that you give a free vendor space to at the casino.


As far as profit.. maybe ask 10% of the affiliates sales. If they make nothing, they don't have to pay, so they would be more likely to agree.

The Policy is the name Casino is not allowed.

Casinos by another name , however steal as sweet.

So you could either have a Kacino for Lindens or for fun. Both are allowed.

But You cant have a Casino for either.

I was thinking of doing something like this in my RP sim. Right now I have modded "Blackjack" tables which are there for ambience, but aren't scripted to do anything. I do have scripts which I plan to rewrite so they can be used without Linden Dollars. I've heard discussion of an RP HUD which would have an internal credit system, redeemable for RP and sometimes real stuff. Since I am a builder, I would eventually want to integrate this credit system and either have a store that redeems credits, or have the machines give out prizes.

All in all, the only investment is time. People are playing something for free and getting prizes I made, which may or may not work. In any case, I can really only see this kind of thing working in RP, as I really can't see people playing on such machines for fun.

If the policy is really that simple, that's, of coarse, silly. Maybe there's a vain hope that someone actually reads the description and understands what they're deleting before they delete it??

The credits would be even faker than the lindens so it would be legaller.

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Now that would be good.

Silly or not, I beleive that is the Policy.

How could they keep track of which ones were for money or not?

I think they automatically dont accept clasified ads with that name

My initial though is that the redeemable credits idea gives value to the credits and makes this gambling, but, since the player actually gets the credits for free, there would be no law broken. Sort of like when a company has a contest, they have to provide a free method of entry to make it not gambling.

I'm sure I'm preaching to the choir here, but if they're going to do something, they should do it right and not just ban a word from advertisements. Especially when the casinos themselves aren't illegal or are being removed.

Wasn't it Orwell's 1984 where the only words that anyone was allowed to say or think were compiled in the Newspeak Dictionary which got thinner and thinner each passing day (I think)?

Wait for a few more weeks and see how thin the sl dictionary becomes.

absolutely- they either should be banned outright, or allowed


If its an advertizing ban - then ALL advertizing for casinos should be banned, period.

They should define what a casino is too if thats the word that matters.

Thing is one of the most popular things in SL ever - Tringo, was a gambling game.

Hugsy, if you are going to do something like that, avoid using the word 'Casino.' Instead, use the word 'Arcade.' Allow people to play the games with a limited number of credits and allow them to redeem the credits for an item, just like most arcades (ppssttt, Arkansas doesn't allow gambling, but arcades were just fine!)

Then we reach the point that online gambling is not illegal in all countries in the world and all people in SL are supposed to be over the age of 18 anyhow...

What is the business with just not allowing the name "Casino"... if a place is a casino, no matter what it is called, it is still a casino... hmmmm

Arcade is probably a more accurate word than Casino, for that kind of establishment anyway.

If the games you have are fun enough on their own, you can charge a small amount for people to play even though there's no chance of winning anything. Just like all those RL quarters that went into the RL Pacman games. There is no law against providing games for free that have real prizes, or against providing games for free with no prizes, or against providing games at a cost with no prizes. SL does have some rules now about what words you can put in your place description and advertising text. Casino is one of the banned words. Just write the ad the way you want it, and if there's a word on the bad list, the automated system will let you know. It doesn't let you know all the words in the ad that are on the bad list, so you might have to try submitting your ad a few times until you get all the bad words replaced. It's a shame that they can't allow free play places to advertise however they want to, but as soon as they do that, other places will provide a couple free games and advertise those to lure people to the pay games.

Build what you want, and you can find a way to advertise it. If you aren't doing anything wrong, you won't have any trouble.

Is that really true?

I know nintendo have turned it into a gameboy game but the thing is i never ever see any tringo machines anywhere, just thousands and thousands of slingo machines (although it seems that zyngo is taking over) everywhere.

It was huge once. Was the first "big thing" in SL

Its more hosted in groups like slingo used to be primarily.