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Involuntary Exposure

Sue Mitchell
Registered User
Join date: 12 Sep 2006
Posts: 30
10-27-2006 00:21
Wondering if anyone has come across this. When wearing items of clothing, such as corsets as a top, rather than undergarment (some of them being way too nice to hide), if I then add a necklace, the corset disappears and I'm standing there topless! This is not good when trying on a new necklace in a jewellery store! Can't say I have tried this out with all my corsets, or indeed all my necklaces, but know for sure it happens with at least 3 of them. It does not happen with ordinary tops which are designed as "tops".

Could it be that the placement of the necklace, i.e. the chest, is over-riding the placement of the corset, and if so, is there a workaround?
Joseph Worthington
The Suntan Mega-Man
Join date: 29 Jul 2006
Posts: 563
10-27-2006 00:43
That's quite possible, as each item may attach to the stomach or spine to ensure that it stays lined up with the torso properly. If both items are indeed attaching to the same point (I'd suggest testing this at home :) )The only think I could suggest setting the necklace you want to attach to the chin, then hoping on a poststand and trying to realign it properly. But even then, if your avi moves her head up or looks side to side, the necklace may tilt in unexpected ways.

Someone else with a better knowledge of which attachment points work well for necklaces and which don't should be able to help you out. Currently the one necklace I have is set to Chest...and that seems to keep it stable, so try using that attachment point if the corsets are using spine.

!EDIT!
Sorry...just reread your post. If the corsets and necklaces are both attaching to the chest, try attaching one to the spine and then realigning it from there. Careful though, as if you change your mind and go to reattach to the chest, your corset/necklace may end up floating off your body :)
CJ Carnot
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Join date: 23 Oct 2005
Posts: 433
10-27-2006 03:44
From: Sue Mitchell
Wondering if anyone has come across this. When wearing items of clothing, such as corsets as a top, rather than undergarment (some of them being way too nice to hide), if I then add a necklace, the corset disappears and I'm standing there topless! This is not good when trying on a new necklace in a jewellery store! Can't say I have tried this out with all my corsets, or indeed all my necklaces, but know for sure it happens with at least 3 of them. It does not happen with ordinary tops which are designed as "tops".

Could it be that the placement of the necklace, i.e. the chest, is over-riding the placement of the corset, and if so, is there a workaround?


Hi Sue, it sounds like this is happening because the necklaces causing the problem are not prim jewelry but are textures and therefore created as items of clothing themselves. Tops for example may be undershirts, shirts or jackets so if your necklace was made as one of these it will replace whatever garment you were already wearing that was the same type.

Unlike prim attachments these cannot be attached to other points of your body so if your jewelry conflicts with some other item of clothing it is simply not possible to wear them at the same time.

Some clothing creators offer their clothes as different types in the same package, so for example your corset may exist as an undershirt, a shirt or a jacket, allowing you to choose which layer to wear it on to suit the other clothing that might conflict with it, so it's worth looking out for creators who offer this option.

Alternatively, find some prim jewelry you like. This attaches to the body and does not conflict with any of the clothing layers.
Raindrop Drinkwater
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Join date: 28 Jun 2006
Posts: 240
10-27-2006 03:44
Is your necklace made of prims, or is it painted ?

If it's made of prims : there's a little box next to the name, in your inventoy. When you wear the necklace, it attaches to your chest or your spine, usually. You can only wear one item on a particular attachment point at a time, so if your corset is also made of prims (I doubt it -- it would be highly unusual), then yes, one can replace the other. You could change the attachment point to fix that... but then you'll need to adjust the position of the necklace with the building tools.

If it's painted : you'll probably have the "undershirt" icon next to its name. Then, if your corset is also an undershirt... as soon as you wear the necklace (which is, really, an undershirt), *poof* the corset vanishes, leaving you a little bit exposed. :o I think that this is what's happening to you. I'm afraid there's not much you can do about that, apart from avoiding the deadly combinations.
Sue Mitchell
Registered User
Join date: 12 Sep 2006
Posts: 30
10-27-2006 04:57
Thanks for your replies. I think it's probably the "painted" necklace problem I have, so will look at it more closely later today when I get home from work.
Stephanie Abernathy
Susan Ivanova Wannabe
Join date: 8 May 2006
Posts: 352
10-27-2006 08:50
Sue,

The other posters touched on this already. I'll just give you a bit more detail on it. Upper torso clothing cosists of several layers: Skin, Undershirt, Shirt, Jacket. SL will bake all 4 layers into what you see as your AV. Jewelry can be a texture applied to one of those layers... OR... it can be a prim attachment. If it's applied to the skin layer, then it becomes a permanent part of the skin layer (like a tattoo) which clothing can't remove. But who wants to wear the same necklace all the time. :)

If it's a prim necklace, as Joesph pointed out, the chest and spine are the 2 best attachment points, with chest being the normal one. Stomach is slightly less good, and requires some editing to manipulate the prims to the neck area. Left & Right shoulders can also be used, but are worse (as the body turns, the item will disappear).

What you described, as CJ pointed out, you are wearing a clothing layer, rather than a prim. Both CJ & Raindrop gave you good info. The one thing hinted at is that many clothing makers already know about this issue, and willing to work with you if you IM them (not all, mind you). If you are buying a corset that is an undershirt layer and you want to wear a piece of jewelry. IM the 2 makers. Perhaps the jewelry maker can put the jewelry texture on a shirt layer... or maybe the corset maker can.

A general rule of thumb to help you identify what you are looking at in your inventory:
An undershirt layer icon looks like a tank top shirt
A Shirt layer icon looks like a blouse
A Jacket layer icon looks like a dark windbreaker jacket
A prim attachment icon will look like a box (so will an unpacked outfit)

Jackets always cover the other 2 layers
Shirts always cover Undershirt layer
Prims always appear outside clothing layers

Again, this is just generalizations, you will see nuances where a clothing maker will use 2 or more layers to achieve a certain look, like using the jacket layer to add a sash.