I do not consent to my privacy being raped

I am stunned, LL are officially insane. I have handed over my credit card number to them along with the accompanying information. That's all I have ever had to do to prove my adulthood and identity on any site anywhere on the internet.



Lets see - my credit card data, my name, my DOB, my address and now my passport number. All the most personal and private data that a hacker would love to have to completely steal my identity.

And I am expected to hand this over to an unknown entity in an unknown jurisdiction with whom I have no contract or enforceable legal relationship, completely outside the data privacy and confidentiality laws of my own country.

And I am expected to TRUST that this unknown entity will not abuse my data and will maintain it in a 100% safe way, a standard that no entity has met yet.

And for the really paranoid, since I don't know what jurisdiction this data is held in I have no idea in what circumstances the government of that jurisdiction can demand access to my most private data.

Basically, I am being asked to bend over, hand over everything I need to have my privacy raped, and trust that an unknown entity won't let it happen. Excuse me while I downgrade my premium account back to basic.

Good grief. Two threads about this already at least. If you do not want to be "bent over and raped" then simply stay out of adult flagged areas.

And - they didn't say ALL that infomation, they said one or more!

Which would include all the >18 areas I like to roleplay in along with every mall that has at least one shop selling an adult item.

And I am expected to pay for the privilege? Just what it is about SL that requires a level of intrusion into subscribers' privacy that goes FAR beyond anything anywhere else on the net? I can sign up for any sort of porn by providing a CC, yet the risk that I might see a naked avatar or buy a prim dildo means I need to provide my passport and DOB?

PS: read the post. They already have your CC, so that gives them your name and address. Now they want your DOB and, if you are a non-US resident like me, my passport number because my country doesnt have national ID numbers. If you are a US resident they want your drivers licence or SS number instead.

If you are premium, no you do not pay for it. And I don't think that staring at vid of shagging Koreans is quite the same as interacting live with another human being. There are legal issues involved here and I for one would feel better knowing that kids are off the grid.

And they don't already have CC info on many residents, they are unverified.

My point is that on the other 1,000,000 sites on the internet that are supposedly limited to adults you prove your identity by providing a CC. That includes adult chat sites.

What is it about the cartoon avatar sex and chat on SL that is so horrendous that you are expected to provide the tools for a complete destruction of your privacy as a condition of entry?

As a US subscriber you might be happy to hand over just the last four digits of your SS number, but as an Australian being asked to provide my passport details is just way too much. That's data which I am told when I sign up for a passport I should keep in the strictest confidence and not give to ANYONE because of the possibility of misuse. And here I am expected to just hand that over on good faith to an unknown company in a foreign jurisdiction?

I know that ultimately its my option to desubscribe from SL if I don't like the terms but I am a paying subscriber, or was until today, and the forums are here for us to express our disapproval over stupid decisions by LL.

Can we just please close & delete any raping & f*cking threads in the forums please?
Or we will ned age verification here too

stands at the door and hands out velveeta on ritzs.......

wewt!

I’m not exactly thrilled about this either. The vague blog isn’t telling us how frequent the fees are, how much higher the basic accounts will be, and what bothers me completely the most is their just saying “Third party” here, “Third Party” there. If a specialist and respectable identification group, why are they being shrouded anonymously? Are they terrified of hacking that gives me the exact reason I can’t trust them with any of this highly personal information?

It’s no secret the SL database was hacked once, and that alone completely prevents me from ever considering a premium account, if anything makes me feel secure, it is knowing that SL has none of my personal information, or any third party has seen it on their behalf.

I already feel bad enough that I have payment info on file.

Folks, you might want to try reading the Q&A on the blog before you start screaming about it. This new system will certainly bend some people out of shape - but come on, we're hardly being raped here. By the way, I find use of that term in this way to be extraordinarily offensive.

From the Q&A:
Do I have to submit to age verification?
No. You need only provide age verification if you choose to enter areas in Second Life that have been flagged as having adult content.

What if I want to remain anonymous?
Residents over the age of 18 can still remain anonymous if they wish to remain in areas of the World that do not contain adult content.

Do I have to pay for verification?
Premium Residents will access the verification system for a nominal fee (<L$10) as part of their subscription. Basic users will be charged a larger fee to verify their age, can upgrade to Premium to access the system, or simply decline to verify their age and continue enjoying the areas of Second Life that don’t contain adult content.

Uuuumm yes you do have to pay for it even if you are a premium member. Its just cheaper.

I just do NOT AT ALL get the screaming this has started.

You have to provide proof of identity for all kinds of things. That's life. What is the big freaking deal here?

No one will have this info but LL. They are NOT going to be spreading your info far and wide. It is just going to a company, which you have to do to get a checking account, get a job, rent a car, write a check, and about 10000 other things.

It is not an invasion of privacy. It's a legitimate use of info for a BUSINESS. What are you people SO afraid of?

My I just point out this paragraph for emphasis?

What personal information will you store about me?
Linden Lab will not store any personally identifying information about you as a result of the age verification process. We simply record that your avatar is age-verified.

i allready veryfied my age by paying LL. i will not give personal data like passport numbers etc to a third party. (whats next? 10 fingerprints like when you travel to the us? no thanks)
i create adult content and i am sure sells will stop at the day when this goes live
this will be the end for me in sl

bye bye

If this verification rubbish happens I will be returning to IRC using Mirc, which never crashes, is totally free, and the pictures are better

My World? My Imagination?

My acccount is already verified. I am an adult. I dont want to flag my land as adult content because it has some adult pose balls on it, and then become unable to access my own property, which i paid for, which i pay rent for, and which any unverified account holder can look at from a distance with cam.

I loved SL... I loved the concept, the execution, the freedom to be what i want to be. piece by piece its becoming unusable, and full of rules and regulations. Hell I can get that in real life.

Phil... you just shot yourself in the foot...

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WHICH SAYS ABSOLUTELY NOTHING ABOUT WHAT PERSONAL INFO THE THIRD PARTY AGE CHECKER WILL KEEP.


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Quote:

What documents do I need to prove my age?
Exact documents may vary depending on your country of residence but may include:
Passport
Driver’s license
Name
Address
National ID number, such as a Social Security number

I do have some reservations about this, even just as regards the possibility of identity theft. I am really not keen on the idea of two or more pieces of valuable and identifying information, such as credit card number, address, and Social Security Number (or Social Insurance Number, here in Canada) being wafted to an unnamed third party about whose security systems I know nothing.

There have been numerous instances of such sensitive information being lifted wholesale from databases in the past few years; being involved in such an event may mean a lot of grief for those affected. I speak from experience: my wallet was stolen earlier this year, and it contained not only credit and bank cards, but my driver's licence, insurance, and Social Insurance card (I know, I know -- it was dumb to have that in there ...) so that I had to undergo a wholesale credit-alert and potential identity theft fraud alert process.

I don't recommend this experience to anyone.

The request for passport numbers also intrigues me. How likely is it that the government of France, say, is going to release personal information about a French national to some third party? (For all I know, it's very likely -- I'm just putting the question out there.)

Anyway, while I understand LL's wish to verify ages, I take issue with the proposal as it is currently outlined.

Bye everyone, its been nice. I'll hang about for the rest of my subscription, camp my ass off for the first time and cash in my land & lindens when time's up. My age has been verified with enough satisfaction to take my money. Enough is enough.

couldnt of said it better myself
although i'll probly end up at there.com lol