Second Life Forums Archive - Was she online or not?

Leslie Mimistrobell

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Join date: 29 Jan 2007

Posts: 8

03-19-2007 09:49

The other day, my friend was on and then it said off. I looked at the Friend List, she had off status. But when i looked at her profile, it said the status was Currently Online. I know people can change their preference to make them invisible to friends or the public in general. But here is what i am really confused. I then tried IM. When i started the IM window, it said shes Offline. This is common for people who want to be invisible even if they are online. But then i typed the message and sent it, i got the typical message saying shes offline and the message would be stored. I dont understand now. That seems she was truely offline. My understanding is that if she was online and just invisible to me, my IM would have gone through just like shes online. I wont have got this "offline and stored" message. So now my question is IS SHE online or Not? I hope shes not. Was that "Currently Online" status in her profile just a bug in SL, or she was actually online? I need to know before I say something to her. Thanks.

Gaybot Foxley

Input Collector

Join date: 15 Nov 2006

Posts: 584

03-19-2007 09:53

Unless it happens again, I wouldn't say anything. Probably just another lovely SL quirk/bug. Sometimes I will log in where lots of friends are online and my list says no one is online. Relogging fixes that for me.

Gillian Waldman

Buttercup

Join date: 1 Oct 2006

Posts: 697

03-19-2007 10:07

Sounds like your friend was offline. Unless the person took the extra steps to 1. make themselves invisible to you 2. go into busy mode and then 3. make their busy message match the offline message word-for-word, they were offline.

It happens all the time - SL shows you on when you're not and off when you're on.

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Atashi Toshihiko

Frequently Befuddled

Join date: 7 Dec 2006

Posts: 1,423

03-19-2007 10:08

I had it happen a few days ago where a friend was online, but she didn't appear as 'online' in my friends list. And I was not 'online' on her friends list. We were face to face, chatting, but all indications to each other were that we were both offline. And I can say with certainty that neither of us hide our online status from the other.

She was using First Look and I wasn't, she suggested it might have been a First Look related issue.

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Ace Albion

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Join date: 21 Oct 2005

Posts: 866

03-20-2007 02:25

Over the weekend, a couple of login session I had nobody online on my friend list except those who logged in after I was inworld.

Don't start thinking about friends hiding- it's more likely that SL is creaking again.

The Friends Online web page usually works ok though- maybe they should reroute the inworld friends list through that

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bilbo99 Emu

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Join date: 27 Oct 2006

Posts: 3,468

03-20-2007 02:32

yep - what everyone else says.
A friend got into a right tizz with me accusing me of turning off the 'see status' flag and then promptly apparently doing it themselves ... just good ol' cranky SecondLife

btw, is TP from profile ever going to work again?

Colette Meiji

Registered User

Join date: 25 Mar 2005

Posts: 15,556

03-20-2007 04:44

Online or not - doesnt neccesarilly mean they dont like you.

Although people often complain that everyone else IMs them while expecting everyone else to stay visible 100% of their online time - this is a pretty unrealisitc situation.

Its kind of like having a light on your cell phone that tells your freinds whenever you wake up. Some of us at least like to have our Coffee first.

Raudf Fox

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Join date: 25 Feb 2005

Posts: 5,119

03-20-2007 06:48

If your friend had just logged out, sometimes, SL can take ages to let go of the account and finish the log out process. I was standing in the same room as my husband's account, and the account was still there! I know he logged out, because he was cursing at the connection for a bit. But the friends list said he was online, while if I brought up the IM, he was offline.

It can also do this if you crash out of SL, and logging back in for this will cause the account to log out. If the concurrent users is high, the log out process is long.

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Porky Gorky

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Join date: 25 May 2004

Posts: 1,414

03-20-2007 07:16

From: Raudf Fox

If your friend had just logged out, sometimes, SL can take ages to let go of the account and finish the log out process. I was standing in the same room as my husband's account, and the account was still there! I know he logged out, because he was cursing at the connection for a bit. But the friends list said he was online, while if I brought up the IM, he was offline.

It can also do this if you crash out of SL, and logging back in for this will cause the account to log out. If the concurrent users is high, the log out process is long.

I had this yesterday, Logged out and logged in with an alt, and found myself standing next to the alt for a full 5 minutes before he disapeared. Profile showed him as being online etc so is down to lag/packetoss, the usual bollocks.

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Learjeff Innis

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Join date: 27 Nov 2006

Posts: 817

03-20-2007 08:15

Yesterday, nobody in my friends list appeared online. But looking in their profile, several were. And they responded to IMs, proving that they were.

Whenever the friends list disagrees with the profile results, it's an SL bug (or a temporary discrepancy due to them just coming on or leaving). When it's working correctly, the appearance on friends list should always match the profile results.

I'm not sure what's supposed to happen if you IM someone who's online but hiding status. I believe I've seen contradictory behavior here, but one never knows whether it was a temporary bug.

Was she online or not?
Leslie Mimistrobell Registered User Join date: 29 Jan 2007 Posts: 8	03-19-2007 09:49 The other day, my friend was on and then it said off. I looked at the Friend List, she had off status. But when i looked at her profile, it said the status was Currently Online. I know people can change their preference to make them invisible to friends or the public in general. But here is what i am really confused. I then tried IM. When i started the IM window, it said shes Offline. This is common for people who want to be invisible even if they are online. But then i typed the message and sent it, i got the typical message saying shes offline and the message would be stored. I dont understand now. That seems she was truely offline. My understanding is that if she was online and just invisible to me, my IM would have gone through just like shes online. I wont have got this "offline and stored" message. So now my question is IS SHE online or Not? I hope shes not. Was that "Currently Online" status in her profile just a bug in SL, or she was actually online? I need to know before I say something to her. Thanks.
Gaybot Foxley Input Collector Join date: 15 Nov 2006 Posts: 584	03-19-2007 09:53 Unless it happens again, I wouldn't say anything. Probably just another lovely SL quirk/bug. Sometimes I will log in where lots of friends are online and my list says no one is online. Relogging fixes that for me.
Gillian Waldman Buttercup Join date: 1 Oct 2006 Posts: 697	03-19-2007 10:07 Sounds like your friend was offline. Unless the person took the extra steps to 1. make themselves invisible to you 2. go into busy mode and then 3. make their busy message match the offline message word-for-word, they were offline. It happens all the time - SL shows you on when you're not and off when you're on. _____________________ http://www.deuxlooks.com/
Atashi Toshihiko Frequently Befuddled Join date: 7 Dec 2006 Posts: 1,423	03-19-2007 10:08 I had it happen a few days ago where a friend was online, but she didn't appear as 'online' in my friends list. And I was not 'online' on her friends list. We were face to face, chatting, but all indications to each other were that we were both offline. And I can say with certainty that neither of us hide our online status from the other. She was using First Look and I wasn't, she suggested it might have been a First Look related issue. -Atashi _____________________ Visit Atashi's Art and Oddities Store and the Waikiti Motor Works at beautiful Waikiti.
Ace Albion Registered User Join date: 21 Oct 2005 Posts: 866	03-20-2007 02:25 Over the weekend, a couple of login session I had nobody online on my friend list except those who logged in after I was inworld. Don't start thinking about friends hiding- it's more likely that SL is creaking again. The Friends Online web page usually works ok though- maybe they should reroute the inworld friends list through that _____________________ Ace's Spaces! at Deco (147, 148, 24) ace.5pointstudio.com
bilbo99 Emu Garrett's No.1 fan Join date: 27 Oct 2006 Posts: 3,468	03-20-2007 02:32 yep - what everyone else says. A friend got into a right tizz with me accusing me of turning off the 'see status' flag and then promptly apparently doing it themselves ... just good ol' cranky SecondLife btw, is TP from profile ever going to work again?
Colette Meiji Registered User Join date: 25 Mar 2005 Posts: 15,556	03-20-2007 04:44 Online or not - doesnt neccesarilly mean they dont like you. Although people often complain that everyone else IMs them while expecting everyone else to stay visible 100% of their online time - this is a pretty unrealisitc situation. Its kind of like having a light on your cell phone that tells your freinds whenever you wake up. Some of us at least like to have our Coffee first.
Raudf Fox (ra-ow-th) Join date: 25 Feb 2005 Posts: 5,119	03-20-2007 06:48 If your friend had just logged out, sometimes, SL can take ages to let go of the account and finish the log out process. I was standing in the same room as my husband's account, and the account was still there! I know he logged out, because he was cursing at the connection for a bit. But the friends list said he was online, while if I brought up the IM, he was offline. It can also do this if you crash out of SL, and logging back in for this will cause the account to log out. If the concurrent users is high, the log out process is long. _____________________ DiamonX Studios, the place of the Victorian Times series of gowns and dresses - Located at http://slurl.com/secondlife/Fushida/224/176 Want more attachment points for your avatar's wearing pleasure? Then please vote for https://jira.secondlife.com/browse/VWR-1065?
Porky Gorky Temperamentalalistical Join date: 25 May 2004 Posts: 1,414	03-20-2007 07:16 From: Raudf Fox If your friend had just logged out, sometimes, SL can take ages to let go of the account and finish the log out process. I was standing in the same room as my husband's account, and the account was still there! I know he logged out, because he was cursing at the connection for a bit. But the friends list said he was online, while if I brought up the IM, he was offline. It can also do this if you crash out of SL, and logging back in for this will cause the account to log out. If the concurrent users is high, the log out process is long. I had this yesterday, Logged out and logged in with an alt, and found myself standing next to the alt for a full 5 minutes before he disapeared. Profile showed him as being online etc so is down to lag/packetoss, the usual bollocks. _____________________
Learjeff Innis musician & coder Join date: 27 Nov 2006 Posts: 817	03-20-2007 08:15 Yesterday, nobody in my friends list appeared online. But looking in their profile, several were. And they responded to IMs, proving that they were. Whenever the friends list disagrees with the profile results, it's an SL bug (or a temporary discrepancy due to them just coming on or leaving). When it's working correctly, the appearance on friends list should always match the profile results. I'm not sure what's supposed to happen if you IM someone who's online but hiding status. I believe I've seen contradictory behavior here, but one never knows whether it was a temporary bug.

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