SecondLife Morality Police Opinions
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SouLDK Simpson
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Join date: 1 Jul 2006
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06-03-2007 01:00
http://blog.secondlife.com/2007/05/31/keeping-second-life-safe-together/i think this a serious issue for the adult grid in secondlife ® they can keep that *beep* inside the kids grid. half of the world ingame protest for it because its overreacting and will loose alot of players in nearby future , because the LL staff go ingame telling us what dress code we can have lets take a example a kid showing his mum SL for the 1st time he OOPPS Accidently* note i said accidently written in profile hes over 18 and poofs he can get into adult grid and his parents goes nuts and bonkers over the toons they see their child playing is havine virtual sex .. dresses challening .. aka AR = Abuse Report. i think linden lab should first have the age verification oon track before they can tell adult human beings how to dress weither or not. else this Morality controle is good for 1 thing if retarded players throwing cocks all over the place thats logic for cage chickens that need to be under controle . but i dont think they shall tell us what PICTURES we may upload, think we can controle that our selves. else keep this controle in Kids grid and let Adults grid be Adults grid. morality police protesting shirts been around for ages by now wearing by many toons can be mostly found in glow esates / temptress falls 123, 186, 26 (mature) SouLDK Simpson Mentor/Supporter/Customer/Player
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AcidRaven Harrington
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Join date: 18 Jun 2005
Posts: 86
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06-03-2007 01:07
From: SouLDK Simpson http://blog.secondlife.com/2007/05/31/keeping-second-life-safe-together/i think this a serious issue for the adult grid in secondlife ® they can keep that *beep* inside the kids grid. half of the world ingame protest for it because its overreacting and will loose alot of players in nearby future , because the LL staff go ingame telling us what dress code we can have lets take a example a kid showing his mum SL for the 1st time he OOPPS Accidently* note i said accidently written in profile hes over 18 and poofs he can get into adult grid and his parents goes nuts and bonkers over the toons they see their child playing is havine virtual sex .. dresses challening .. aka AR = Abuse Report. i think linden lab should first have the age verification oon track before they can tell adult human beings how to dress weither or not. else this Morality controle is good for 1 thing if retarded players throwing cocks all over the place thats logic for cage chickens that need to be under controle . but i dont think they shall tell us what PICTURES we may upload, think we can controle that our selves. else keep this controle in Kids grid and let Adults grid be Adults grid. morality police protesting shirts been around for ages by now wearing by many toons can be mostly found in glow esates / temptress falls 123, 186, 26 (mature) SouLDK Simpson Mentor/Supporter/Customer/Player Unfortantly Yes some pictures should not be Uploaded to SL. LL is reposible for the server space. They will get in Legal Troble in the state of california or Texas for haveing some types of pictures on there servers. But that dose not excuse them saying how we can think, feel or act. People are always free to Mute, teleport or otherwise desided to not partisipate in what they feel is wrong. Acidraven Harrington Child Avatar Height detector 1.0.4: AcidRaven Harrington is 1.191803 m (3 feet 11 inches) tall. (counting your shoes) Yo, ho, haul together, hoist the Colors high… Heave ho, thieves and beggars, never say we die. Freedom is for Everyone. http://www.gopetition.com/petitions/full-reign-of-self-expression-for-consenting-adults-in-second-life.html
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SouLDK Simpson
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Join date: 1 Jul 2006
Posts: 3
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06-03-2007 01:14
From: AcidRaven Harrington Unfortantly Yes some pictures should not be Uploaded to SL. LL is reposible for the server space. They will get in Legal Troble in the state of california or Texas for haveing some types of pictures on there servers [/url] yes if its only a problem in The US of A why make the rest of world suffer the changes ? i dont think its right because a group of people startet this then rest of 5mill residental ingame adult players shall get hitted aswell, its like saying a woman died of Playing too much World Of Warcraft then they all get picky and puts oon a timer weither how many hours a day she/he can play to not get 2 many fatalities. altho not ment racisme .. but most problems comes from the US because majority there are sensitive or aggressive to make all kinds of remarks/excuses .. and end up suing like that cat lady killed her cat in the microwave because the TOS of the microwave never said about live pets drying was good or not
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Atashi Yue
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Join date: 24 Jan 2007
Posts: 703
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06-03-2007 01:52
From: SouLDK Simpson yes if its only a problem in The US of A why make the rest of world suffer the changes ? i dont think its right because a group of people startet this then rest of 5mill residental ingame adult players shall get hitted aswell, its like saying a woman died of Playing too much World Of Warcraft then they all get picky and puts oon a timer weither how many hours a day she/he can play to not get 2 many fatalities.
altho not ment racisme .. but most problems comes from the US because majority there are sensitive or aggressive to make all kinds of remarks/excuses .. and end up suing like that cat lady killed her cat in the microwave because the TOS of the microwave never said about live pets drying was good or not The problem began from a country. NOT the USA.
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Tegg Bode
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Join date: 12 Jan 2007
Posts: 5,707
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06-03-2007 02:34
Well if they are going to have an inworld police force I suggest they have no LInden powers but do have access to talk to all Lindens online or direct contact LL staff on duty via email perhaps. They should asses the problem, attempt to fix the problem or negotiate the parties to a resonable result or if not possible or beyond their knowledge powers then summon a Linden to deal with things.
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Ciaran Laval
Mostly Harmless
Join date: 11 Mar 2007
Posts: 7,951
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06-03-2007 02:39
From: Atashi Yue The problem began from a country. NOT the USA. Did it though? The child porn issue was in Germany but the gambling issue is a US issue. The child porn issue would also be a problem in the US, maybe not the pixel AV's (although it wasn't clearly defined whether that did or didn't break US laws) but the RL pictures are surely illegal in the US, aren't they?
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Tod69 Talamasca
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Join date: 20 Sep 2005
Posts: 4,107
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06-03-2007 02:43
From: Ciaran Laval Did it though? The child porn issue was in Germany but the gambling issue is a US issue. The child porn issue would also be a problem in the US, maybe not the pixel AV's (although it wasn't clearly defined whether that did or didn't break US laws) but the RL pictures are surely illegal in the US, aren't they? Yep! RL Child Pornography IS illegal in the USA. So is Online Gambling. This is also a problem of being "global". What's legal/illegal here might be Illegal/Legal elsewhere. Because of this there really is NO possible way to cover everyones ass. Heh- Just wait till a Muslim country or such starts bitching 
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Ciaran Laval
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Join date: 11 Mar 2007
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06-03-2007 02:43
Well I have no intention of ID verifying via the proposed system. If LL don't believe whom I am then they should make a compulsory purchase of my land, refund the remainer of my membership and turn my account back to a basic one. They shouldn't allow me to buy any Lindens from them because when they do they are accepting that I'm over 18 as they are trading with me in an 18+ arena.
As for the Police force, heaven help us if it's anything like Livejournal's. This needs some serious clarification. Having people who are encouraged to go around seeking out what may or may not be violations of the TOS is not the environment I'd like to see.
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Ciaran Laval
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Join date: 11 Mar 2007
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06-03-2007 02:46
From: Tod69 Talamasca Yep! RL Child Pornography IS illegal in the USA. So is Online Gambling. This is also a problem of being "global". What's legal/illegal here might be Illegal/Legal elsewhere. Because of this there really is NO possible way to cover everyones ass. Heh- Just wait till a Muslim country or such starts bitching  Well as far as I'm aware, users have a responsibility too. If something is illegal in the UK and I view it, it's no defence for me to say that it's legal in Denmark. We're not yet really at the one worldwide market stage.
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SouLDK Simpson
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Join date: 1 Jul 2006
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06-03-2007 03:04
From: Tod69 Talamasca Yep! RL Child Pornography IS illegal in the USA. So is Online Gambling. This is also a problem of being "global". What's legal/illegal here might be Illegal/Legal elsewhere. Because of this there really is NO possible way to cover everyones ass. Heh- Just wait till a Muslim country or such starts bitching  1st i hardly doubt any muslim country goes online because its surely unholy for them but child pornography is illegal any where ithink that blog is made totally overreacting. also its against TOS interfere in private matter and listen im's even for the staff. its ok they come check whos wearing a 2meters long cock suit just aslong they not holy nuns going all meh about it
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Ciaran Laval
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Join date: 11 Mar 2007
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06-03-2007 03:10
From: SouLDK Simpson 1st i hardly doubt any muslim country goes online because its surely unholy for them
Don't be absurd.
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Matthew Dowd
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Join date: 30 Jan 2007
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06-03-2007 04:16
Personally I think that the intention of the blog was to say keep adult content out of the public PG areas and some extreme content (e.g. RL paedophilia pictures) have no place anywhere in SL. But whoever wrote the blog worded it extremely badly, and probably needs to have their future blog entries proof read by others in advance, in that it a) contradicts the community standards b) contradicts previous statements about age verification c) can be read to mean that all adult content (from sex to gun violence) is prohibited on the grid d) encourages people to go on witch hunts against anything they don't like - be that BDSM, same gender sex, any sex or sexual act/content, violence, guns, combat sims etc. I have a lot of sympathy for those who would like to clean up SL so that it became an art gallery of peoples' creativity - it sounds a wonderful ideal. However, I know of plenty of other virtual 3D worlds which came before SL and also some which are around now which are precisely galleries to people's creativity - no, I'm not going to mirror what some have said on the forums and suggest that those who want a clean sanitised 3D world should go there  but I would like to point out that people didn't/aren't flocking to those worlds in anywhere near the numbers that people are flocking to SL (despite the fact many of those are far more stable and open in terms of technology).
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errUh Oh
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Join date: 1 Mar 2007
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06-03-2007 04:28
"I have a lot of sympathy for those who would like to clean up SL so that it became an art gallery of peoples' creativity - it sounds a wonderful ideal."
Im a fine art painter in real life but i dont want to live in an art gallery. Not in real life and not in my Second Life. Gallerys are nice places to visit and view art but you cant lean on the statues and you cant eat grilled cheese then touch your greasy hands on anything. I think its a very poor ideal and highly boring. Would you build the waterfall just to put it on display and look at it or are you gonna actually immerse yourself, get in there and swim. After all isnt that whats fun about having a waterfall, actually using it? Well apparently not for some of you. And thats ok if thats what you like to do. My problem is that you cant say the same thing to me. I want you to say "Thats ok if thats what you like to do." I want you to say it because its the right thing to do.
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Nina Stepford
was lied to by LL
Join date: 26 Mar 2007
Posts: 3,373
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06-03-2007 10:44
you may be shocked. weblogs for a site i own indicate regular traffic from countries such as lebanon, iran, pakistan, afghanistan, even iraq. dont mindlessly swallow what youre being told. remember iraq was a 'secular muslim' nation before the usa destroyed it. the taliban does not rule over the entire middle east. i also cannot resist to point out that perhaps the harshest and most censor-happy nation in the middle east is an american ally, saudi arabia (most of the 9/11 terros were saudi too hey). From: SouLDK Simpson 1st i hardly doubt any muslim country goes online because its surely unholy for them
but child pornography is illegal any where ithink that blog is made totally overreacting. also its against TOS interfere in private matter and listen im's even for the staff.
its ok they come check whos wearing a 2meters long cock suit just aslong they not holy nuns going all meh about it
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Flavian Molinari
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Join date: 1 Aug 2004
Posts: 662
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06-03-2007 10:55
From: SouLDK Simpson but most problems comes from the US because majority there are sensitive or aggressive to make all kinds of remarks/excuses .. and end up suing like that cat lady killed her cat in the microwave because the TOS of the microwave never said about live pets drying was good or not AR sent for bashing.
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Jorus Xi
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Join date: 27 Dec 2006
Posts: 14
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06-03-2007 11:27
From: AcidRaven Harrington Unfortantly Yes some pictures should not be Uploaded to SL. LL is reposible for the server space. They will get in Legal Troble in the state of california or Texas for haveing some types of pictures on there servers. Thats not how it works.
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