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16th and 18th Century Role Play Sims

Jig Chippewa
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02-12-2007 11:19
I am interested in 16th (Elizabethan London, for example) and 18th Century Role Play sims or groups. Does anyone have any information on this time period in SL?
Elyse Gaspara
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hmmm
02-12-2007 11:22
i think you could check out caledon thats the name of a sim
Ilianexsi Sojourner
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02-12-2007 11:36
Yeah, that'd be my first choice. Caledon has a whole group of sims now, the theme is steampunk Victorian-- but they're also a cool place to go if you're more into the Victorian part than the steampunk part. :) There's also a newer sim, Babbage, that's done in a similar style.
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Desmond Shang
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02-12-2007 12:49
Grins... thanks :)

I would also add that there is something out there called the "Arden" project - still being developed but I'm pretty sure it's a Second Life grid venture. Think: Shakespeare's world. Wow...

I'm dying to see it myself; wish I had more info for you.
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Virrginia Tombola
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02-12-2007 13:07
I am a happy Caledonian, and have "lived" there for about three months now. Please do have a wander over in our direction--there are 11 themed sims, all sharing the basic premise of Victorian Steampunk. As vague as the definition of such is, you will see everything from spot on reproductions of Victorian items/costume/buildings to Tesla towers arcing over the landscape, time machines, clockwork people and the occasional phantasie item such as the beloved Nessie of Port Caledon. Sim themes include the Highlands (castles and crags), Port Caledon (my home--boats and seaside, with a seedy dock area to the north), Victoria City (London of the 19th--don't miss the freebie carts downtown!) and the Moors (a gothic area with fog and very refined vampires)

As mentioned, Babbage has also started recently, and shows much promise. It seems a tad "edgier" than Caledon, with a huge factory belching smoke towering over the landscape and a bit more of an industrial feel. There is also the Western Sim of Steelhead for a American take on that time period. Sadly, Sigil is no more, but I understand there another Western Sim called "Dodge City" is in the works.

Despite this range of themes, we all get along fair well, and there is an active social "season" which has just begun. There is usually a ball at least on the weekends. While most of us don't RP, we do try to act like Victorians, and use the speech and courtesies of the time. Don't let that put you off, though--we don't expect anything other than politeness out of visitors (and we endeavor to return such courtesy in kind, of course!)

All that said, I personally am interested in the 16th through 18th centuries as well as the 19th. I should love nothing more than an excuse to make a 1760s polonaise or an Elizabethan dress (my Janet Arnold stands at the ready on my bookshelf! :). Do let us know if you find anything, either extant or hypothetical!
Wilhelm Neumann
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Posts: 2,204
02-12-2007 13:40
Yeah I have a lot of fun in caledon and visit the kennel often hehe (pet the dogs take out the walking stick) I even put on a suit (which for my avatar is something that is unusual).

Still haven't adopted a dog but am getting close one ran up to me the other day that I almost got. Probably next time I will weaken and be coming home with a dog hehe
Angelique LaFollette
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02-12-2007 18:42
The closest i've seen to Elizabethan London is one persons attempt a couple of years ago to recreate the Shakespeares Globe Theatre, But the creator was fairly Novice, and the effect was neither accurate, nor pleasing.
Beyond that, i think the 19th century (Victorian) flavor of Caladon is about it.

Angel.
Lincoln Lupino
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02-12-2007 19:52
The 17th century always get snubbed. Bah humbug.
Virrginia Tombola
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02-12-2007 20:48
From: Lincoln Lupino
The 17th century always get snubbed. Bah humbug.


Not at all! I should love to see a Restoration sim :) (Dream on....)


Wait! What about Pirates? There you have it--plug pirates and you can have all the 17th century paraphenelia you desire!
Soen Eber
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02-12-2007 21:29
Yup, as well as Cardinal Richelieu, the thirty years war, colonization of America, the introduction of black slavery, the Tokugawa Shogunate, the Manchu conquest, Dutch tulipmania, foundation of the Royal Society of London, the great fire of London, Sir Issac Newton, the glorious revolution (constitutional monarchy in England), and the salem witch trials as well. Oh, and don't forget Oliver Cromwell and his lot.

Sort of a mixed bag now that I reflect on it, a lot of beginnings and endings with no real glorious age except for the French and for pirates, which may be why it is ignored a lot. Oh, and also the golden age of dueling.
Kyrah Abattoir
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02-13-2007 02:20
well i am working on a strict victorian sim personally, but i do not expect it to be ready before a few months.
It's a hell of a job :/
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Erin Talamasca
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02-13-2007 04:20
From: Virrginia Tombola
Sadly, Sigil is no more

!! O.O
Hotspur Otoole
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17th Century??
02-13-2007 07:05
From: Virrginia Tombola
Not at all! I should love to see a Restoration sim :) (Dream on....)


Wait! What about Pirates? There you have it--plug pirates and you can have all the 17th century paraphenelia you desire!


Greetings, Virrginia.. :-D

Pirates?? What about the Musketeers?? Now that's adventure!

H.
Virrginia Tombola
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02-13-2007 08:46
Ah, mais si--Les Trois Mousquetaires! Vous est un tres bon D'Artagnan, mssr :)
Hotspur Otoole
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En Garde!!!
02-13-2007 09:50
From: Virrginia Tombola
Ah, mais si--Les Trois Mousquetaires! Vous est un tres bon D'Artagnan, mssr :)


Seulement si vous joueriez le rĂ´le de Constance Bonacieux...

;-)

There are, by the way, a few pirate or buccaneer groups out and about in Secondlife. I belong to one or two of them.
Angelique LaFollette
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02-13-2007 18:47
From: Lincoln Lupino
The 17th century always get snubbed. Bah humbug.

The Phrase "Bah, Humbug" was culled from Charles Dickens "A Christmas Carol", the events of which took place in the 1840's (Was written in 1843). I'm afraid that falls in the 19th Century.
But i agree with you, The Elizabethan Era was Facinating (And turbulent) and would make an Interesting subject for a Sim.

Angel.
Virrginia Tombola
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02-14-2007 00:18
From: Angelique LaFollette
The Phrase "Bah, Humbug" was culled from Charles Dickens "A Christmas Carol", the events of which took place in the 1840's (Was written in 1843). I'm afraid that falls in the 19th Century.
But i agree with you, The Elizabethan Era was Facinating (And turbulent) and would make an Interesting subject for a Sim.

Angel.


Um, if we ARE to nitpick, the majority of the Elizabethan era occurred in the 16th century, as Good Queen Bess passed on in 1603. The gentleman was bemoaning the lack of interest in the 17th. But let us not nitpick :)
Jig Chippewa
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02-15-2007 06:50
Thanks for all the comments. I am going to keep checking back on this Resident Site. Zounds!
Hotspur Otoole
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16 vice 17
02-15-2007 08:06
From: Virrginia Tombola
But let us not nitpick :)


Heaven forfend...

I was surprised not to see your efforts highlighted at the fashion show in Caledon last night, Miss Vee!

H.
Virrginia Tombola
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02-15-2007 14:00
From: Hotspur Otoole
Heaven forfend...

I was surprised not to see your efforts highlighted at the fashion show in Caledon last night, Miss Vee!

H.



Oh, come now, sir. Dr. Whittlesea (if it was his show you are speaking of) is a dear heart, and had nearly all my costumes for sale next door to the exhibit hall. I can't and shan't ask for more shameless plugging than that.

However, I do think a men's fashion show would be a good thing for the future--I enjoy a nice dress as much as the next girl, but as you well know, I think we ought be seeing more of the fairer sex (that's you lot) in uniforms and spiff coats with tails!

Oh, and to keep this vaguely on topic, I truly think the 17th century presents rather interesting possibilities for fashion, as well. It was a time when men were not afraid to wear lace, that is for certain!

The real question, though, when it comes to viability of a sim, is whether there is interest beyond just playing dress up. I think the success of the 19th century sims is due to the fact that they enjoy a robust society that has events such as balls, contests, art exhibits and RPs (the latter more in the Western Sims). If a earlier period sim were to be successful, I think it would have to have a dedicated core of at least ten people willing to host/encourage such things.
Desmond Shang
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02-15-2007 15:37
From: Virrginia Tombola
However, I do think a men's fashion show would be a good thing for the future--I enjoy a nice dress as much as the next girl, but as you well know, I think we ought be seeing more of the fairer sex (that's you lot) in uniforms and spiff coats with tails!


Fear not, as we take our presence to the global stage, you'll be seeing quite a bit of our Navy lads in uniform soon...

grins
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Hotspur Otoole
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02-16-2007 07:45
From: Desmond Shang
Fear not, as we take our presence to the global stage, you'll be seeing quite a bit of our Navy lads in uniform soon...

grins


I'm already kitted out in anticipation..

H.
Hotspur Otoole
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An excellent point
02-16-2007 08:00
From: Virrginia Tombola
The real question, though, when it comes to viability of a sim, is whether there is interest beyond just playing dress up. I think the success of the 19th century sims is due to the fact that they enjoy a robust society that has events such as balls, contests, art exhibits and RPs (the latter more in the Western Sims). If a earlier period sim were to be successful, I think it would have to have a dedicated core of at least ten people willing to host/encourage such things.


I couldn't agree more. I have played around with various RP sims here and there in my short time on SL. Many have disappointed me because of their limited scope. I think the reason some work is a small (growing larger) core group of dedicated individuals that bother to take the time to research, build and plan the stuff that makes the milieu pleasant and engaging. It's not just the fancy, somewhat authentic period clothing and accoutrements that does it (not that I'm arguing about wearing uniforms), it's the effort put in to making the world work that "puts them in the seats" as it were.

Call it "Critical Mass"

The other key to success is space.. a far more problematic issue. In my first weeks on SL, I wandered about looking for Barsoomian sims, as I am a fan of Edgar Rice Burroughs. I found one building that was decorated with Barsoom covers and that sold some items reminiscient of Barsoom. All very cleverly done, mind you, and a fine effort. But really, we're talking about a building here. There's only so much you can do if you don't have a private island all to yourselves. In that respect, the Caledon situation is a very fortunate outcome, and difficult to repeat.

H.