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Rico Chernov

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02-21-2007 08:04

Anybody knows if the Linden Labs has plans to use any immersive hardware interface, like HMD's, gloves...?

Thanks.

Rico

Reece Gunawan

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Join date: 21 Dec 2006

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02-21-2007 08:11

They'll have to do such eventually or they'll certainly fall behind competitors. I'd imagine it won't be happening until after Mono is out however and all the current issues plaguing the system are resolved. I haven't come across any articles to suggest a "real VR" experience is anywhere near completion or even in development at the moment.

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Curtis Conacher

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02-21-2007 08:19

"Real VR" I thought those aspiraions died in like 1989 along with the rubik's cube lol.
But seriously, VR needs alot of development to be a viable "real" experience instead of something gimmicky as it has previously been.

Fade Languish

I just build stuff...

Join date: 20 Oct 2005

Posts: 1,760

02-21-2007 08:22

From: Rico Chernov

Anybody knows if the Linden Labs has plans to use any immersive hardware interface, like HMD's, gloves...?

If they did, I bet the experience would be somewhat like this.

(warning: if you're at work, or somewhere where the odd bit of bad language would not be appropriate, best not click.)

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Reece Gunawan

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02-21-2007 08:28

From: Curtis ConacherBut seriously, VR needs alot of development to be a viable "real" experience instead of something gimmicky as it has previously been.[/QUOTE

Exactly. And I'm certain the computer power to handle tens of thousands of concurrent users all using such equipment will require radically different technology than today. That's not to say it's far away -- germanium infused chips offer the potential for hundred fold clock speed increases. With the way flash memory is getting exceedingly larger, quicker, and allowing more rewrites, we may soon have flash virtual memories (Virtual RAM, not some aspect of Second Life) capable of delivering RAM-like performance from a SSD flash memory card. A quick look over at: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comparison_of_ATI_Graphics_Processing_Units suggests graphic cards are going to be getting much more powerful soon. We'll soon have a whole range of quad core cpu's from Intel... These are the kind of innovations that will need to be undertaken before VR can even have a chance.

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Conifer Dada

Hiya m'dooks!

Join date: 6 Oct 2006

Posts: 3,716

02-21-2007 08:52

I'm waiting until I can go holographic, then I can really surprise my RL-er!

Doing Something

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02-21-2007 09:55

From: Curtis Conacher

"Real VR" I thought those aspiraions died in like 1989 along with the rubik's cube lol.
But seriously, VR needs alot of development to be a viable "real" experience instead of something gimmicky as it has previously been.

Yep. We need atleast a 1024x768 pixel display. So far, the best affordable headsets have a max resolution of 800x600. Then it's questionable as to whether it's possible to avoid the side effects of using a headset, regardless of resolution. They're notorious for causing nausea, dizziness and headaches.

I once tried a headset myself and didn't feel too great after. Although I do think that it may be possible to adjust to it with a little perseverance. It's even possible to feel a little weird after using a large monitor if you're not used to it.

Lee Ponzu

What Would Steve Do?

Join date: 28 Jun 2006

Posts: 1,770

02-21-2007 12:56

if you google diligently, youcan find the plans for a home-brew hardware device that interprets chat and converts it into signals suitable for controlling a --- ahem --- well, a remote hardware device.

Kathrine Wirtanen

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Join date: 14 Nov 2006

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02-22-2007 05:01

From: Curtis Conacher

"Real VR" I thought those aspiraions died in like 1989 along with the rubik's cube lol.
But seriously, VR needs alot of development to be a viable "real" experience instead of something gimmicky as it has previously been.

My Rubik's cube is still alive, I even have the Irish green on 6 sides version too.

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Del Wellman

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Posts: 168

02-22-2007 07:12

One development in the pipeline that was mentioned in an article in PC Advisor by one of the creators was the ability to "Talk" in world instead of typing. Now that would edfinitly remove some of the mystery of SL.

Rockwell Ginsberg

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02-22-2007 07:17

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Immersive Hardware
Rico Chernov Registered User Join date: 10 Aug 2006 Posts: 1	02-21-2007 08:04 Anybody knows if the Linden Labs has plans to use any immersive hardware interface, like HMD's, gloves...? Thanks. Rico
Reece Gunawan .com wannabe, .mobi king Join date: 21 Dec 2006 Posts: 413	02-21-2007 08:11 They'll have to do such eventually or they'll certainly fall behind competitors. I'd imagine it won't be happening until after Mono is out however and all the current issues plaguing the system are resolved. I haven't come across any articles to suggest a "real VR" experience is anywhere near completion or even in development at the moment. _____________________ Evil Land Baron Currently does not own any land
Curtis Conacher Registered User Join date: 11 Sep 2006 Posts: 62	02-21-2007 08:19 "Real VR" I thought those aspiraions died in like 1989 along with the rubik's cube lol. But seriously, VR needs alot of development to be a viable "real" experience instead of something gimmicky as it has previously been.
Fade Languish I just build stuff... Join date: 20 Oct 2005 Posts: 1,760	02-21-2007 08:22 From: Rico Chernov Anybody knows if the Linden Labs has plans to use any immersive hardware interface, like HMD's, gloves...? If they did, I bet the experience would be somewhat like this. (warning: if you're at work, or somewhere where the odd bit of bad language would not be appropriate, best not click.) _____________________
Reece Gunawan .com wannabe, .mobi king Join date: 21 Dec 2006 Posts: 413	02-21-2007 08:28 From: Curtis ConacherBut seriously, VR needs alot of development to be a viable "real" experience instead of something gimmicky as it has previously been.[/QUOTE Exactly. And I'm certain the computer power to handle tens of thousands of concurrent users all using such equipment will require radically different technology than today. That's not to say it's far away -- germanium infused chips offer the potential for hundred fold clock speed increases. With the way flash memory is getting exceedingly larger, quicker, and allowing more rewrites, we may soon have flash virtual memories (Virtual RAM, not some aspect of Second Life) capable of delivering RAM-like performance from a SSD flash memory card. A quick look over at: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comparison_of_ATI_Graphics_Processing_Units suggests graphic cards are going to be getting much more powerful soon. We'll soon have a whole range of quad core cpu's from Intel... These are the kind of innovations that will need to be undertaken before VR can even have a chance. _____________________ Evil Land Baron Currently does not own any land
Conifer Dada Hiya m'dooks! Join date: 6 Oct 2006 Posts: 3,716	02-21-2007 08:52 I'm waiting until I can go holographic, then I can really surprise my RL-er!
Doing Something Registered User Join date: 17 Feb 2007 Posts: 120	02-21-2007 09:55 From: Curtis Conacher "Real VR" I thought those aspiraions died in like 1989 along with the rubik's cube lol. But seriously, VR needs alot of development to be a viable "real" experience instead of something gimmicky as it has previously been. Yep. We need atleast a 1024x768 pixel display. So far, the best affordable headsets have a max resolution of 800x600. Then it's questionable as to whether it's possible to avoid the side effects of using a headset, regardless of resolution. They're notorious for causing nausea, dizziness and headaches. I once tried a headset myself and didn't feel too great after. Although I do think that it may be possible to adjust to it with a little perseverance. It's even possible to feel a little weird after using a large monitor if you're not used to it.
Lee Ponzu What Would Steve Do? Join date: 28 Jun 2006 Posts: 1,770	02-21-2007 12:56 if you google diligently, youcan find the plans for a home-brew hardware device that interprets chat and converts it into signals suitable for controlling a --- ahem --- well, a remote hardware device.
Kathrine Wirtanen Registered User Join date: 14 Nov 2006 Posts: 74	02-22-2007 05:01 From: Curtis Conacher "Real VR" I thought those aspiraions died in like 1989 along with the rubik's cube lol. But seriously, VR needs alot of development to be a viable "real" experience instead of something gimmicky as it has previously been. My Rubik's cube is still alive, I even have the Irish green on 6 sides version too. _____________________ Need help sorting your inventory, Send me $20L and an IM then I will send you over 150 preorganised empty folders, for organising Landmarks, Clothinng, Animations, & Body Parts.
Del Wellman Registered User Join date: 24 Jan 2007 Posts: 168	02-22-2007 07:12 One development in the pipeline that was mentioned in an article in PC Advisor by one of the creators was the ability to "Talk" in world instead of typing. Now that would edfinitly remove some of the mystery of SL.
Rockwell Ginsberg Boss Join date: 3 Oct 2006 Posts: 560	02-22-2007 07:17 Does the jack in the back of my skull count?

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