Non-Transfering Items to your alt

I'm wondering if there is some sort of gadget or a way to give my alt objects that are non trans. Some things I can probably sell to myself, but I do have objects that are non transfer that I'm not allowed to sell. Anybody have a remedy to this?

Nope theres not. If there was think of all the rips there would be in SL. There is just no way to do it.

The only other thing that occurs to me is to create a group with your alt, then share/deed items to that group - at least either of you will be able to use it, although obviously it has to stay rezzed........

would that work for 'no trans boots'

if i put them on the ground deed to group

could other group members wear them>?

thats a interesting hack if it works

No. What part of the phrase "No Transfer" is unclear to you?

Your alt will have to buy their own items. In most cases, we're only talking about a few pennies each in real money.

Seemed like an honest question to me - certainly not deserving of a snide response.

A more productive answer might be that SL considers alts to be entirely separate people where permissions are concerned.

Which is why I regard "No Transfer" as do not buy.

ok..and thanks for being a dick about it

Won't work -- no transfer items will have the deed-to-group greyed out.

Damn, that would've been awesome if it did work... Not that it matters now, but I coulda gotten everything off of my old deleted account.

Ah well. Good thing it doesn't work, or I'd just be sore about it

From what I've seen most items for sale are "No Transfer". I wouldn't think there is much for you to buy if you are limiting your self to items with "Transfer". All the avatars I've bought are "No Transfer".

Weapons, hair... Anything that is left so you can copy/mod it (for personalization) is going to be a no-trans item.

Almost -all- of my clothing are trans. Some are not, usually the copy/mod ones for tintable fun and making specific outfits. Skins typically annoy me at being both non-trans and no-mod, but they are usually copy so you can create folders for specific avatars, of which I have yet to do >.>;

So pretty much clothes... A lot of eyes, shoes usually too, are trans, but most things are not. At least... Most of the things you'd want to be, are not.

Thats a little obvious. Trans objects can't be copy objects too...or someone will start easily selling the stuff you make.

Anything you wear and possibly need to copy in several folders, especially things you might want to modify (prim body attachments) and therefore need backup copies of, should be copy / mod / no trans. Everything you place on the ground usually has transfer rights (other than decoration objects like a patch of grass, prim water and such, where the user would get poor if he had to buy it a thousand times for a project; those should be copy- and therefore not transferable as well).

Many people view it the other way round when it comes to clothes and body attachments. No copy = useless, if it isn't something that one wears on xmas only.

I'd contact the creator. First before you buy something that has no transfer rights, but know you might want to transfer it; many content creators will send you a transferable version instead of a copyable.
Second chance is after you accidently bought a not transferable item that you wish to transfer to an alt or to give away as a gift. Many content creators are generous and will send another copy to your alt / the gift recipient.

Sorry some of you took my comment as being snide or rude.

Look, most items that are no-transfer are set that way so the maker can allow the item to be *copyable*. That means you can use those no-transfer boots in 20 different outfits, or can make six copies of a chair and place them on your home. Lots of people like to be able to do that sort of thing.

If the item is copyable, and you can also break the no-transfer restriction somehow and give it to someone else, then the content creator loses control of the product distribution. There is nothing preventing you, at that point, from keeping a copy for the original buyer, giving or selling other perfect copies to friends, and in general destroying the retail value of the products by making them freebies, or by reselling them to others at a profit. Breaking the ability to restrict transfer on merchandise would destroy the SL economy, by devaluing goods to the point where no one would bother making things for sale.

Personally, I wouldn't mind if there was a *Linden-operated* method to transfer all or part of an inventory to an alt. I made a new alt a while back, to get a different surname, and I would have loved to be able to transfer most of my assets to her. But such a transfer would have to be strictly controlled, with assurances that the transferred items were eliminated from the original owner's inventory AND in-world placed items 100%. And LL isn't likely to offer that any time soon.

I won't say most, but quite a few items are no-transfer simply because of the creator's paranoia.

If it was mere convenience there should be no problem handing out a NC/T copy on-demand (obviously "I can't be bothered" is still a valid reason). As it stands, the reasons I hear are "I don't want my items resold", "Transfer means you can steal my items" and "Then people come ask for a replacement, sell the original and scam me".

I've only heard "Most of my customers prefer it that way" once in all the times I've asked. And part of me has to wonder how people who need C/NT manage to get dressed in RL at all where everything is NC/T .

It used to be possible, but LL took it out a few updates back.

Personally, I sell most of my clothes as "copy OK / No transfer", *because that is what most clothing buyers have made it clear that they prefer*. It allows them to use the clothes in multiple outfits.

But I am quite happy to offer the same items as "No copy/ Transfer OK", if they prefer the option of passing it along or even reselling the single, non-copyable item later. All they have to do is contact me and ask.

If they want to give a dress or other no-trans item as a gift, with the "copy OK / No transfer" permissions for the gift recipient, I'll be willing to allow them to do that too, by having them pay me for the item and I then drop the purchased item on the recipient's inventory, or by setting it up so they can buy it on SL Boutique and specify someone else to recieve it.

I sell all my clothing and animations as NC/T. I find that quite a lot of customers like to but them as gifts (I know that because I recently had a bunch of people buying 2 identical items at the same time and I IM'd them as I thought maybe it was an SL "feature". I have never been asked for C/NT (though I'd be happy to supply the clothing as such) nor have I ever had anyone ask for a replacement as they had broken an item whilst modifying it.

Don't know about you, but its easier to find things in my closet where I can *see* the items I want to pull out and put on. Not to mention that I can afford a *much* larger wardrobe here than I can in RL. Being able to have different outfit folders complete with shoes and accessories is *very* convenient in a world where trying to figure out what to wear could take two hours or more of 'oh, what did this look like?' At least in RL its 'oh, gee, I've put on a few pounds since I wore this last' but at least you knew it was a little black dress before you tried it on. <G>

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That's the wonderful thing about competition. Do people prefer copy or transfer for their clothes? Well, some stores offer one, some stores offer the other, and the sales decide (or show that there is room to provide for both).

There is no way for anyone other than a Linden to determine whether the holders of two different accounts are the same person in First Life, or two different people. And, for privacy reasons, most Second Life users wouldn't want any other Second Life user to have access to that kind of information. We are thus stuck with non-transfer being a limit on avatars rather than users.

The solution to changing your avatar name would not be some way of transferring inventory from one to another. The solution would be for Linden Labs to just change the darn name associated with the avatar. For the right money, you can buy your own last name anyway. I'm guessing that something is coded into the Second Life database to make the avatar ID # and the name permanently linked.

If the ability to transfer an avatar's non-transferable inventory were created as a name-change workaround (old avatar and new avatar quarantined; all inventory stripped from old avatar and given to new avatar; old avatar deleted), then I for one would be visiting a lot more Lucky Chairs.

I do prefer stores that include the ad texture . & I did mostly add that comment as a joke .

All we actually need is "shortcut" inventory items that point to the actual inventory item and you can drop a pair of shoes under Shoes and then create shortcuts to it under specific outfits. When the original item gets deleted/transferred the shortcuts either stop working, or get auto-deleted.

That would only leave M/C/NT as the only legitimate need for C/NT clothing.

Hmm, I prefer Copy/No-Transfer to No-Copy/Transfer. That why I have can have several copies of the item when SL invariably starts screwing up my inventory. This has saved several expensive weapons.

If I want to buy someone something as a gift, I either find it on SL Boutique or SL Exchange which have "gift" options, or escort them to the store and hand them the money.

I sell an item that some people want to copy for their own use, and others want to modify and give away. As a result, I created two different versions. One is copy/no-transfer, and the other is transfer/no-copy (this one is also cheaper, so people who know they only want one can also buy this version). Doing it this way has helped my sales quite a bit as everyone can get what they want/need.