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Why cant I find some first land someone was talking about?

Sensual Anaconda
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Join date: 28 Jan 2007
Posts: 57
04-03-2007 21:05
Hello

I am trying to find some 1st land that I was told to buy so I can only pay 512 Linden Dollars instead of expensive prices. But i cannot seem to find any and cant get any help in the Live help window.
Piginawig Lock
Person
Join date: 11 Oct 2006
Posts: 56
04-03-2007 21:07
First land is gone.......



I allow someone else to elaborate.
Beebo Brink
Uppity Alt
Join date: 12 Jan 2007
Posts: 574
04-03-2007 21:07
From: Sensual Anaconda
I am trying to find some 1st land that I was told to buy so I can only pay 512 Linden Dollars instead of expensive prices.

Sorry to be the bearer of bad news, but the First Land program has been discontinued. That opportunity (slim though it may have been) is no longer available to new residents.
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Peggy Paperdoll
A Brat
Join date: 15 Apr 2006
Posts: 4,383
04-03-2007 21:09
First land is no more. Taken away by Linden Labs because it was not profitable and they could not manage abuses. You got screwed Sensual. :(
Kyrah Abattoir
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Join date: 4 Jun 2004
Posts: 2,786
04-03-2007 21:20
From: Peggy Paperdoll
First land is no more. Taken away by Linden Labs because it was not profitable and they could not manage abuses. You got screwed Sensual. :(


not exactly what i would call an objective (dis)information.

Oh yeah sorry guys "boo boo bad linden labs!" right?
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Peggy Paperdoll
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Join date: 15 Apr 2006
Posts: 4,383
04-03-2007 21:26
and what exactly is the non (dis) information reason? :)

Oh, and please don't link back the that line of horse manure posted in the blog a few weeks ago.
Something Something
Something Estates
Join date: 26 Sep 2006
Posts: 121
04-04-2007 00:54
And yet, even in the latest 1.14.0 (1) viewer, if you go to Search --> Land Sales, you can set "All Types" to "First Land". I wonder how many people who haven't got the memo are forlornly clicking away, refreshing the display several times a day.
Warda Kawabata
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Join date: 4 Nov 2005
Posts: 1,300
04-04-2007 01:43
From: Something Something
And yet, even in the latest 1.14.0 (1) viewer, if you go to Search --> Land Sales, you can set "All Types" to "First Land". I wonder how many people who haven't got the memo are forlornly clicking away, refreshing the display several times a day.


I think they've got their bots doing that for them by now. :p
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Ace Albion
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Join date: 21 Oct 2005
Posts: 866
04-04-2007 01:59
From: Beebo Brink
Sorry to be the bearer of bad news, but the First Land program has been discontinued. That opportunity (slim though it may have been) is no longer available to new residents.


It may still be available occasionally to the quickest bots though :D
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Amity Slade
Registered User
Join date: 14 Feb 2007
Posts: 2,183
04-04-2007 08:30
So you saw first land advertised in SL, came to SL, and found that first land had been 'discontinued,' sorry, but you're welcome to stay and spend your money?

I'd call that: Bait-and-Switch.

Someone should have thought to update the official information files when the decision to discontinue first land was made.
Gillian Vuckovic
Purple Power!
Join date: 4 Mar 2007
Posts: 176
04-04-2007 08:45
I have to admit part of the lure for me was First Land too. Don't get me wrong, I still find lots to enjoy and have picked up some "moderately" priced land but I can't help feeling that paying to upgrade my membership was a bit of a jip. :(
Alicia Sautereau
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Join date: 20 Feb 2007
Posts: 3,125
04-04-2007 09:00
same issue after several days in sl and wanted to get first land and finding non, instead i`ve bough some land and are upto 14336m2, if u really want land, 512 isn`t much :)
Nina Stepford
was lied to by LL
Join date: 26 Mar 2007
Posts: 3,373
04-04-2007 10:37
ahhh so firstland was indeed a lie.
i was wondering why i couldnt find any actual firstland.
Ann Launay
Neko-licious™
Join date: 8 Aug 2006
Posts: 7,893
04-04-2007 10:49
From: Nina Stepford
ahhh so firstland was indeed a lie.
i was wondering why i couldnt find any actual firstland.


Not a lie...it existed up until recently.
Nina Stepford
was lied to by LL
Join date: 26 Mar 2007
Posts: 3,373
04-04-2007 11:30
no, it is a lie because i was led by sl to believe if i went premium there would be a first-time land owners programme, even though there wasnt one at the time it was being promoted.
in fact, it is still being promoted.

i am planning to cancel premium and buy land from a private server.
Ann Launay
Neko-licious™
Join date: 8 Aug 2006
Posts: 7,893
04-04-2007 11:55
From: Nina Stepford

in fact, it is still being promoted.


Promoted where, and by whom? The Knowledge Base and official blog clearly state that the program was discontinued in February.

http://www.secondlife.com/knowledgebase/article.php?id=387

Premium members are still able to hold up to 512m without paying monthly tier, but that's the extent of the 'promotion' I've seen.

http://www.secondlife.com/whatis/landpricing.php

:confused:
Jopsy Pendragon
Perpetual Outsider
Join date: 15 Jan 2004
Posts: 1,906
04-04-2007 12:53
There's always been confusion over "Tier 0" entitlements.

Even back in 2003, I wasn't sure if I would have to pay $5 a month more on top of premium membership to own land.

The first 512sqm of "land allocation" (the right to own land) is included in the standard Premium membership. If you want more than 512sqm, you have to pay land use fees for additional "land allocation"

Used or not, you pay premium + tier, according to whatever subscription plan you have selected.

You Must downgrade your tier yourself, it does not automatically drop when the amount of land you hold goes below a tier level. If it did, people that buy and sell land regularly would probably have to re-confirm tiering up between purchases.

"FIRST LAND" was an opportunity, not a guarantee, to buy new land directly from LL at a discounted rate, IF it was available. They released new first land intermittantly... and unfortunately, most of it ended up in land baron hands rather quickly. Either they created alts and harvested it, or paid off landless players to buy first land and sell it to them at a slight mark-up.

In any case, the "FIRST LAND" system was, apparently, horribly abused, and ended because it wasn't helping newbies, and it was helping people that are already profiting off of SecondLife disproportionately.
Nina Stepford
was lied to by LL
Join date: 26 Mar 2007
Posts: 3,373
04-05-2007 01:15
first land is being promoted as a benefit of going premium.
if you do not believe me go register a new av like a noob would and see for yourself. firstland is used as an upsell and referenced in the tutorial/help island and is even mentioned in the client.