Second Life Forums Archive - Can I Join Lots to Deed to Group when they are NOT Adjacent?

Robin Ivory

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07-20-2007 10:46

I have two lots, one is a 1024m and the other is a 512m, they are in the same sim, However they are Not adjacent to each other.

I have them rented (set to group) and I want to deed them to group.

However, my renter has used around 346 prims (his business is all on the 1024m, the 512m is just for prims) and so I cannot do one and then the other because some of his items will be returned to him and he has put a lot of effort into his place and it will be almost impossible for him to get to 234 prims on the 1024.

So, my question is: Can I somehow join the lots and then deed them as a 1536m?

Thanks!

Xplorer Cannoli

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07-20-2007 10:49

From: Robin Ivory

I have two lots, one is a 1024m and the other is a 512m, they are in the same sim, However they are Not adjacent to each other.

I have them rented (set to group) and I want to deed them to group.

However, my renter has used around 346 prims (his business is all on the 1024m, the 512m is just for prims) and so I cannot do one and then the other because some of his items will be returned to him and he has put a lot of effort into his place and it will be almost impossible for him to get to 234 prims on the 1024.

So, my question is: Can I somehow join the lots and then deed them as a 1536m?

Thanks!

just click and drag to join as you normally would.

I would be extremely careful deeding to group. Turn off Autoreturn beforehand. Be sure every single prim is set to group.

Rhaorth Antonelli

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07-20-2007 10:54

if they are not adjacent to one another you can not join the land plots

not sure how you will work around the prim situation.

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Robin Ivory

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07-20-2007 10:59

lol, now which answer is correct?

Rhaorth Antonelli

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07-20-2007 11:15

mine cuz if you think about it, if they are not adjacent how can you drag the outline across them and join them???

look it up on knowledge base I am sure it is there somewhere

I have been joining and subdividing land long enough to know it can not be done unless they are touching each other

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Dytska Vieria

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07-20-2007 11:38

From: Rhaorth Antonelli

mine cuz if you think about it, if they are not adjacent how can you drag the outline across them and join them???

look it up on knowledge base I am sure it is there somewhere

I have been joining and subdividing land long enough to know it can not be done unless they are touching each other

Just yesterday I joined 2 parcels separated by Linden Roadway with no problems. Then, I joined that new parcel to my main parcel separated by Linden RR and another individual's parcel. If there is a parcel inbetween that is not yours, it ignores it but joins your own land.

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Ann Launay

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07-20-2007 11:42

Knowledge Base says no (step 2):

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Joining Land

Joining land is a very similar process, once again using the yellow land selection.

1. Stand on one of the parcels you wish to join to another. From the View Menu turn on Property Lines.
2. Ensure that both parcels of land are adjacent (they share a border at some point).
3. Ensure that both parcels are within the same region. You cannot join land across a region boundary.
4. Ensure that both parcels have the same owner. You cannot, for example, join your group land to your personal land.
5. Okay so far? Then right-click the ground and choose Edit Land or hit Ctrl+5 on your keyboard.
6. Now you're able to drag the yellow land select box. What you're aiming to do here is to drag the yellow selection such that it spans the border between the two parcels you want to join (see the image below). You need to have selected a little land from both parcels that are to be joined. You do not need to select all of both parcels, just some from both.
7. With that done, you should now be able to click the Join button from the Edit pane. If you can't see this option but can see a More button, click that first and you should see the Join option appear.
8. With both parcels now joined into one, check the About Land window (right-click the ground and choose About Land) to make sure that your settings are correct.

Note: The combined parcel will take its name and settings from the parcel you first selected.

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Rhaorth Antonelli

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07-20-2007 11:55

ty ann

and ty dytsky I never knew about the ignores linden land as I have not been around linden land to join or divide parcels

OP did not mention if the land was separated by linden land so the thought never entered my mind

good to know

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Alicia Sautereau

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07-20-2007 12:45

if both land pieces have the same owner (u or group), u don`t have to join them
land with the same owner in the same region automaticly combine their prims

Calveen Kline

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07-20-2007 12:57

Yes, you can join non-adjacent parcels. The difficulty depends on how far apart they are. You need to be high enough to see both and be able to select them both at the same time. Go to Edit Land, then draw a square from one parcel onto the other one and click JOIN. You don't need to select all of the parcel, only any 2 squares on both parcels. The system will ignore any land located in between that is not yours or your group's. I have done this already, that's why I know it's possible. NOTE: When selecting, it'd best to select your first square from the larger parcel, so that the parcel settings are copied onto the smaller parcel, not the other way around.

Johan Laurasia

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07-20-2007 13:05

From: Rhaorth Antonelli

if they are not adjacent to one another you can not join the land plots

not sure how you will work around the prim situation.

Sure you can, as long as you can drag select from one lot to another, you can join them. Simply drag your selection across the lot(s) you dont own, and join.

Rhaorth Antonelli

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07-20-2007 13:26

never used to work as far as I know

I stand corrected, good to know

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Ann Launay

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07-20-2007 14:13

From: Johan Laurasia

Sure you can, as long as you can drag select from one lot to another, you can join them. Simply drag your selection across the lot(s) you dont own, and join.

Someone should inform the Lindens, since they apparently weren't aware of that when putting the Knowledge Base together.

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Calveen Kline

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07-20-2007 14:49

That option probably was changed at some point in the recent past and the Lindens never bothered updating the KDB... as many other things.

Robin Ivory

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07-20-2007 15:00

Thanks everyone!

Ann Launay

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07-20-2007 15:06

From: Calveen Kline

That option probably was changed at some point in the recent past and the Lindens never bothered updating the KDB... as many other things.

Silly Lindens! No cookies!

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I am bumping you to an 8.5 on the Official Trout Measuring Instrument of Sluttiness. You are an enigma - on the one hand a sweet, gentle, intelligent woman who we would like to wrap up in our arms and protect, and on the other, a temptress to whom we would like to do all sorts of unmentionable things.

Congratulations and shame on you! You are a bit of a slut.

Reitsuki Kojima

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07-20-2007 15:29

Its not new. It's been like that as long as I can remember.

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Can I Join Lots to Deed to Group when they are NOT Adjacent?
Robin Ivory Registered User Join date: 20 Jan 2007 Posts: 443	07-20-2007 10:46 I have two lots, one is a 1024m and the other is a 512m, they are in the same sim, However they are Not adjacent to each other. I have them rented (set to group) and I want to deed them to group. However, my renter has used around 346 prims (his business is all on the 1024m, the 512m is just for prims) and so I cannot do one and then the other because some of his items will be returned to him and he has put a lot of effort into his place and it will be almost impossible for him to get to 234 prims on the 1024. So, my question is: Can I somehow join the lots and then deed them as a 1536m? Thanks!
Xplorer Cannoli Cache Cleaner Join date: 18 Sep 2005 Posts: 1,131	07-20-2007 10:49 From: Robin Ivory I have two lots, one is a 1024m and the other is a 512m, they are in the same sim, However they are Not adjacent to each other. I have them rented (set to group) and I want to deed them to group. However, my renter has used around 346 prims (his business is all on the 1024m, the 512m is just for prims) and so I cannot do one and then the other because some of his items will be returned to him and he has put a lot of effort into his place and it will be almost impossible for him to get to 234 prims on the 1024. So, my question is: Can I somehow join the lots and then deed them as a 1536m? Thanks! just click and drag to join as you normally would. I would be extremely careful deeding to group. Turn off Autoreturn beforehand. Be sure every single prim is set to group.
Rhaorth Antonelli Registered User Join date: 15 Apr 2006 Posts: 7,425	07-20-2007 10:54 if they are not adjacent to one another you can not join the land plots not sure how you will work around the prim situation. _____________________ From: someone Morpheus Linden: But then I change avs pretty often too, so often, I look nothing like my avatar. They are taking away the forums... it could be worse, they could be taking away the forums AND Second Life...
Robin Ivory Registered User Join date: 20 Jan 2007 Posts: 443	07-20-2007 10:59 lol, now which answer is correct?
Rhaorth Antonelli Registered User Join date: 15 Apr 2006 Posts: 7,425	07-20-2007 11:15 mine cuz if you think about it, if they are not adjacent how can you drag the outline across them and join them??? look it up on knowledge base I am sure it is there somewhere I have been joining and subdividing land long enough to know it can not be done unless they are touching each other _____________________ From: someone Morpheus Linden: But then I change avs pretty often too, so often, I look nothing like my avatar. They are taking away the forums... it could be worse, they could be taking away the forums AND Second Life...
Dytska Vieria +/- .00004™ Join date: 13 Dec 2006 Posts: 768	07-20-2007 11:38 From: Rhaorth Antonelli mine cuz if you think about it, if they are not adjacent how can you drag the outline across them and join them??? look it up on knowledge base I am sure it is there somewhere I have been joining and subdividing land long enough to know it can not be done unless they are touching each other Just yesterday I joined 2 parcels separated by Linden Roadway with no problems. Then, I joined that new parcel to my main parcel separated by Linden RR and another individual's parcel. If there is a parcel inbetween that is not yours, it ignores it but joins your own land. _____________________ +/- 0.00004
Ann Launay Neko-licious™ Join date: 8 Aug 2006 Posts: 7,893	07-20-2007 11:42 Knowledge Base says no (step 2): From: someone Joining Land Joining land is a very similar process, once again using the yellow land selection. 1. Stand on one of the parcels you wish to join to another. From the View Menu turn on Property Lines. 2. Ensure that both parcels of land are adjacent (they share a border at some point). 3. Ensure that both parcels are within the same region. You cannot join land across a region boundary. 4. Ensure that both parcels have the same owner. You cannot, for example, join your group land to your personal land. 5. Okay so far? Then right-click the ground and choose Edit Land or hit Ctrl+5 on your keyboard. 6. Now you're able to drag the yellow land select box. What you're aiming to do here is to drag the yellow selection such that it spans the border between the two parcels you want to join (see the image below). You need to have selected a little land from both parcels that are to be joined. You do not need to select all of both parcels, just some from both. 7. With that done, you should now be able to click the Join button from the Edit pane. If you can't see this option but can see a More button, click that first and you should see the Join option appear. 8. With both parcels now joined into one, check the About Land window (right-click the ground and choose About Land) to make sure that your settings are correct. Note: The combined parcel will take its name and settings from the parcel you first selected. _____________________ ~Now Trout Re-Re-Re-Certified!~ From: someone I am bumping you to an 8.5 on the Official Trout Measuring Instrument of Sluttiness. You are an enigma - on the one hand a sweet, gentle, intelligent woman who we would like to wrap up in our arms and protect, and on the other, a temptress to whom we would like to do all sorts of unmentionable things. Congratulations and shame on you! You are a bit of a slut.
Rhaorth Antonelli Registered User Join date: 15 Apr 2006 Posts: 7,425	07-20-2007 11:55 ty ann and ty dytsky I never knew about the ignores linden land as I have not been around linden land to join or divide parcels OP did not mention if the land was separated by linden land so the thought never entered my mind good to know _____________________ From: someone Morpheus Linden: But then I change avs pretty often too, so often, I look nothing like my avatar. They are taking away the forums... it could be worse, they could be taking away the forums AND Second Life...
Alicia Sautereau if (!social) hide; Join date: 20 Feb 2007 Posts: 3,125	07-20-2007 12:45 if both land pieces have the same owner (u or group), u don`t have to join them land with the same owner in the same region automaticly combine their prims
Calveen Kline In pursuit of Happiness Join date: 5 Jan 2007 Posts: 682	07-20-2007 12:57 Yes, you can join non-adjacent parcels. The difficulty depends on how far apart they are. You need to be high enough to see both and be able to select them both at the same time. Go to Edit Land, then draw a square from one parcel onto the other one and click JOIN. You don't need to select all of the parcel, only any 2 squares on both parcels. The system will ignore any land located in between that is not yours or your group's. I have done this already, that's why I know it's possible. NOTE: When selecting, it'd best to select your first square from the larger parcel, so that the parcel settings are copied onto the smaller parcel, not the other way around.
Johan Laurasia Fully Rezzed Join date: 31 Oct 2006 Posts: 1,394	07-20-2007 13:05 From: Rhaorth Antonelli if they are not adjacent to one another you can not join the land plots not sure how you will work around the prim situation. Sure you can, as long as you can drag select from one lot to another, you can join them. Simply drag your selection across the lot(s) you dont own, and join.
Rhaorth Antonelli Registered User Join date: 15 Apr 2006 Posts: 7,425	07-20-2007 13:26 never used to work as far as I know I stand corrected, good to know _____________________ From: someone Morpheus Linden: But then I change avs pretty often too, so often, I look nothing like my avatar. They are taking away the forums... it could be worse, they could be taking away the forums AND Second Life...
Ann Launay Neko-licious™ Join date: 8 Aug 2006 Posts: 7,893	07-20-2007 14:13 From: Johan Laurasia Sure you can, as long as you can drag select from one lot to another, you can join them. Simply drag your selection across the lot(s) you dont own, and join. Someone should inform the Lindens, since they apparently weren't aware of that when putting the Knowledge Base together. _____________________ ~Now Trout Re-Re-Re-Certified!~ From: someone I am bumping you to an 8.5 on the Official Trout Measuring Instrument of Sluttiness. You are an enigma - on the one hand a sweet, gentle, intelligent woman who we would like to wrap up in our arms and protect, and on the other, a temptress to whom we would like to do all sorts of unmentionable things. Congratulations and shame on you! You are a bit of a slut.
Calveen Kline In pursuit of Happiness Join date: 5 Jan 2007 Posts: 682	07-20-2007 14:49 That option probably was changed at some point in the recent past and the Lindens never bothered updating the KDB... as many other things.
Robin Ivory Registered User Join date: 20 Jan 2007 Posts: 443	07-20-2007 15:00 Thanks everyone!
Ann Launay Neko-licious™ Join date: 8 Aug 2006 Posts: 7,893	07-20-2007 15:06 From: Calveen Kline That option probably was changed at some point in the recent past and the Lindens never bothered updating the KDB... as many other things. Silly Lindens! No cookies! _____________________ ~Now Trout Re-Re-Re-Certified!~ From: someone I am bumping you to an 8.5 on the Official Trout Measuring Instrument of Sluttiness. You are an enigma - on the one hand a sweet, gentle, intelligent woman who we would like to wrap up in our arms and protect, and on the other, a temptress to whom we would like to do all sorts of unmentionable things. Congratulations and shame on you! You are a bit of a slut.
Reitsuki Kojima Witchhunter Join date: 27 Jan 2004 Posts: 5,328	07-20-2007 15:29 Its not new. It's been like that as long as I can remember. _____________________ I am myself indifferent honest; but yet I could accuse me of such things that it were better my mother had not borne me: I am very proud, revengeful, ambitious, with more offenses at my beck than I have thoughts to put them in, imagination to give them shape, or time to act them in. What should such fellows as I do crawling between earth and heaven? We are arrant knaves, all; believe none of us.

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