Residents of My SIM need more prims ! How to ?
|
Rafaella Schumann
Registered User
Join date: 30 Mar 2007
Posts: 83
|
04-17-2007 18:38
Someone ask me if I can sold more prims to the parcel.
and everybody tell me that this is possible...
So, a SIM supports 15000 prims
When I sliced the SIM in parcels...a pre-defined SIM has been put on the prim.
What can I do to satisfy my citizens ?
I saw something about PRIM bonus...I don't udestand exactlly what that thing do..Maybe is this the way ?
|
Wilhelm Neumann
Runs with Crayons
Join date: 20 Apr 2006
Posts: 2,204
|
04-17-2007 18:49
you have to tack more land onto his account and well charge him for the space It doesn't have to be right beside him only on the same sim. If you have no more sim left then nothing you can do.
|
Zaphod Kotobide
zOMGWTFPME!
Join date: 19 Oct 2006
Posts: 2,087
|
04-17-2007 19:25
It may or may not be too late, but your sim should be designed from the beginning to support this. As Wilhelm points out, you have to tack more land onto his account. You do this by finding areas of your sim that you can carve parcels into, and selling those parcels to those who need additional prims. It's better, of course, to take this into consideration when first designing the sim. It's a bit more problematic to go back after the fact and figure out where you can add these prim reserve parcels. From: Wilhelm Neumann you have to tack more land onto his account and well charge him for the space It doesn't have to be right beside him only on the same sim. If you have no more sim left then nothing you can do.
|
Dnel DaSilva
Master Xessorizer
Join date: 22 May 2005
Posts: 781
|
04-17-2007 23:59
From: Rafaella Schumann Someone ask me if I can sold more prims to the parcel.
and everybody tell me that this is possible...
So, a SIM supports 15000 prims
When I sliced the SIM in parcels...a pre-defined SIM has been put on the prim.
What can I do to satisfy my citizens ?
I saw something about PRIM bonus...I don't udestand exactlly what that thing do..Maybe is this the way ? You can't add more prims to a sim, there are only 15000. Prim bonus lets you go over the prim limit on the parcel with the bomus, but does not let you surpass the 15000 sim limit.
_____________________
Xessories in Urbane, home of high quality jewelry and accessories.
Coming soon to www.xessories.net
Why accessorize when you can Xessorize?
|
Rock Ryder
Registered User
Join date: 6 Oct 2006
Posts: 384
|
04-18-2007 00:41
Prim Bonus, properly called Object Bonus, is a setting in the World, Region/Estate tools, is normal set at '1', and works like this.
A new sim comes complete with 15000 sims. With an Object Bonus set at '1' if you parcel your sim into 10 equal parcels, the About Land, Objects tab will report that the parcel supports 1500 prims. This is not the same as saying that 1500 cannot be exceeded. If you live on just one parcel, and there is nothing and no-one on the other 9, you can use as many prims as you like up to the maximum of 15000. This is the only physical limit on prims, this number can never be exceeded. If the Object Bonus was set at '2', each of the ten parcels will say in About Land, Objects tab, that the parcel supports 3000 prims. This does not mean that each parcel can now use 3000, because if they did, 30000 prims would be needed, and the 15000 limit can NOT be exceeded. So why set the Object Bonus to anything other than '1'?
The reason is that you might want to keep certain parcels for other purposes, such as landscaping, a beautiful park for your tenants, for example. In this way, the parcels with little on them can have their prim allocations shared by the parcels that do have people on them.
There is nothing stopping a sim owner from parcelling his sim into 4 equal parcels, keeping two parcels as just water, for water sports, and allocating 7000 prims to the other parcels, keeping 1000 prims for his beach hut, jetskis and surfboards etc. To allocate the 7000prims to the two parcels he intends to rent out, he would then change the Object Bonus from '1' (which would result in Prims Parcel Supports in About Land showing 3750) to '1.866' (7000/3750), resulting in 7000 being displayed for Prims Parcel Supports.
Hope that clears this up.
|
Rafaella Schumann
Registered User
Join date: 30 Mar 2007
Posts: 83
|
04-18-2007 11:53
Humm...let me see..
I've a scenario like this:
The minimum size of my parcels is 2048M2
Hower it's not possible to perform it, so if I count all unused area I've 3904 M2 of not usefull area spreaded on the sim.About 900 prims
I've a public area used by rivers, roads, fountains, etc.. about 2500 Prims in this area.This area is a single area on my behalf cuz I don't wanna ppls changing the stuffs.The stuffs consumes about 1500 prims.Maybe 1000 prims remaining
it means that there is about 3400 free prims that I like to give to my citizens.
Is there some way to give these prims to the citizens ?
Can I for example:
Create a parcel of 20x20 and sold it to a citizen that already got a 2048m2 parcel and the prims on the new parcel can be used on the 2048m2 ?
What about the Bonus Prim on region estate tool ? iT's set to 1 If I set it to 1.1 ; should my citizens receive 10% more prims on the parcel ? Is the right way to use the prims used my mi stuffs if I got a commitment to don't put anithing more ??
|
Katier Reitveld
M2 News Manager
Join date: 13 Sep 2005
Posts: 412
|
04-18-2007 12:00
Yep just set the prim bonus and they'll get more prims available ( but you won't be able to go over the 15,000 ) - not sure if the bonus is per parcel or not but that's the principle. Increase the bonus and the parcels can go over the normal 117/512.
|
Ceera Murakami
Texture Artist / Builder
Join date: 9 Sep 2005
Posts: 7,750
|
04-18-2007 12:37
Rock is close, but not accurate in his description.
Take a sim. It has 15,000 prims possible.
Make it into 10 equal parcels. Each would get 1,500 prims allocated to it. Each parcel owner could exceed that limit ONLY when the same owner owns more than one parcel in that sim, in which case he can use the total for all his parcels spread across his holdings. Own 2/10 of a sim and you have 3000 prims to play with, divided as you please. You could stack all 3000 of them on a 16 M2 parcel, as long as you have enough additional bare land elsewhere in the sim to cover the 2997 prims worth that the 16 M2 parcel does not support on its own.
In laying out a sim to support multiple cusomers, it's a good idea to allow for some 'growth room' in the sim. Don't sell every last M2.
I designed a sim with 20 parcels for sale, in various sizes. I bought one of them myself. The remaining land was the water around the edges, a lagoon, the ridge line of a hill down the center of the island, and several other odd-shaped areas, all comprizing maybe 5000 spare prims worth of land, after that area was landscaped. That was assigned to a land group owned by the sim owner.
So I want an additional 2048 M2 worth of prim count (468 prims). Easy. Carve a 2048 M2 parcel off of the group-owned excess, and sell it to me. It doesn't matter if that is a 4M wide strip of seawater at the edge of the sim. It's in the sim, and can add to my prim count. I used to own 2048 M2 of lagoon bottom, for that very reason!
To play with prim bonus, you need to set aside land somewhere else that won't use those prims. For example, let's say instead of 10 parcels for sale in the sim, I want to sell 5 parcels, same square M area, but with double prim count. I reserve 1/2 the sim as area that uses virtually no prims, like open ocean, a central lake, rivers... Then I carve out 5 parcels at 1/10 of a sim each, and set the sim object bonus to 2. Each parcel owner would be able to use 3000 prims on their land, instead of 1500. But the rest of the sim has to remain empty. If I fail to reserve empty land, and for example use 3000 prims of my own making a rain forest in the remaining area, that subtracts from the total for the sim. If all but one parcel owner used their full 3000 limit, parcel #5 would be told there were no more prims available, even though HE used none at all!
_____________________
Sorry, LL won't let me tell you where I sell my textures and where I offer my services as a sim builder. Ask me in-world.
|
Wilhelm Neumann
Runs with Crayons
Join date: 20 Apr 2006
Posts: 2,204
|
04-18-2007 14:03
From: Rafaella Schumann
Create a parcel of 20x20 and sold it to a citizen that already got a 2048m2 parcel and the prims on the new parcel can be used on the 2048m2 ?
This is just personal I guess in preferance but its easier and a bit safer for you to do it this way because then you know who is gonna use what amount of prims and its fixed. AT least it feels better to me safety wise cause you know who is going to use what amount.
|
DragonLady Merlin
Registered User
Join date: 2 Mar 2007
Posts: 59
|
04-18-2007 14:18
Forgive me for intruding with a newbie question, but why is there a prim limit at all? I don't understand the point or the purpose?
|
Ceera Murakami
Texture Artist / Builder
Join date: 9 Sep 2005
Posts: 7,750
|
04-18-2007 14:42
From: DragonLady Merlin Forgive me for intruding with a newbie question, but why is there a prim limit at all? I don't understand the point or the purpose? Because simulators are computer programs run by a database, and the database does not have infinite processing capacity. The base coding for a simulator imposes a hard limit of 15,000 prims, because the coders who wrote it determined that with the available software and hardware capabilities, they couldn't handle any more than that. It may also have to do with how much the physics engine can cope with, and other coding limitations.
_____________________
Sorry, LL won't let me tell you where I sell my textures and where I offer my services as a sim builder. Ask me in-world.
|
DragonLady Merlin
Registered User
Join date: 2 Mar 2007
Posts: 59
|
04-18-2007 17:02
Ah, thanks, Ceera. 
|