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Cyd Woolley

Carpe Cerevisiam

Join date: 6 Jan 2007

Posts: 21

04-06-2007 20:37

I am experiencing object/prim behavior that has me baffled. Hopefully someone wiser than me can help out. Here's the scenario:

- I'm on land that I own. (Not group-owned land.)

- The land has a group set (not deeded). I am the owner of the group with default group owner permissions. I am wearing the group tag with Owner set as the active title.

- On the ground I can create a new prim, then take it into my inventory, then drag it from inventory back onto the ground to rez it. No problems.

- From that spot, I ride a cube straight up 600 meters to a sky platform I've built. In Edit mode the platform lists me as Creator and Owner, and the group is set to the same group as the underlying land. I am still wearing the group owner title.

- On the 600m-high platform, I repeat the process I went through on the ground: I create a new prim, then take it into my inventory. BUT, when I drag it from inventory back onto the platform to rez it, I get the message "Failed to place object at specified location. Please try again."

Can anyone enlighten me as to why this is failing? It doesn't appear to be a temporary situation as I've tried repeatedly over a several hour timespan.

Cocoanut Koala

Coco's Cottages

Join date: 7 Feb 2005

Posts: 7,903

04-06-2007 20:44

My experience is that this happens on the ground.

I try to rez something on a platform I have on the ground. Won't work. I try a bunch of angles. Finally I get sick of trying and just rez it on the GROUND. Then - no problem.

For some reason, this problem has gotten worse in past months. Rezzing likes the ground; rezzing doesn't like a tabletop. All I can suggest is trying different camera angles. I don't build in a skybox, so I don't have any other advice; maybe someone else does.

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Cyd Woolley

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04-06-2007 20:57

Thanks Coco, but I've been able to rez on the sky platform many times before during the days leading up to when this problem appeared. (It first appeared early today.) Perhaps it is a bug that was recently introduced into the grid by the Lindens.

Any other thoughts from others?

Faybot Foxley

Morgana Le Fey's Landbot

Join date: 3 Apr 2007

Posts: 166

04-06-2007 21:13

The "failed to rez object" is not a new bug. It is a very old server problem. I work up in the sky a lot on a platform around 600M in the air also. It is on a private island. I have been getting that message lately also. It is probably related to server issues, and there really isn't anything we can do about it. Make sure you do not rez anything no copy while this is happening. It might be best to rez an object that is copyable and free as a test before attempting to rez anything no copy. The weekends are known to put a lot of stress on the servers because of high usage.

Cyd Woolley

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04-06-2007 21:57

Thanks Faybot. I'm glad I am not alone in this experience. I am submitting a tech support email to LL.

One odd thing about my scenario is that my sky platform (it's actually a small sky mall I'm building) is comprised of multiple prims (all box shapes). Some are hollow and cut to form L-shaped wall/floor pieces, and some are non-hollow flat pieces. It seems that I can rezz on the non-hollow prims just fine; it's rezzing on the hollowed/cut prims that that is consistently failing.

More thoughts from others are still welcome.

Warda Kawabata

Amityville Horror

Join date: 4 Nov 2005

Posts: 1,300

04-06-2007 23:25

Is that platform made with a supersize (>10m) prim? There is a known issue with those prims not being recognised as valid objects when trying to rez something against them.

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Cyd Woolley

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04-06-2007 23:41

No, they're all 10m or less in all dimensions.

I've narrowed it down to being related to rezzing on the surfaces of hollow prims. When I take a hollow prim and 'fill it' (i.e., set Hollow=0), the problem goes away.

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Cyd Woolley Carpe Cerevisiam Join date: 6 Jan 2007 Posts: 21	04-06-2007 20:37 I am experiencing object/prim behavior that has me baffled. Hopefully someone wiser than me can help out. Here's the scenario: - I'm on land that I own. (Not group-owned land.) - The land has a group set (not deeded). I am the owner of the group with default group owner permissions. I am wearing the group tag with Owner set as the active title. - On the ground I can create a new prim, then take it into my inventory, then drag it from inventory back onto the ground to rez it. No problems. - From that spot, I ride a cube straight up 600 meters to a sky platform I've built. In Edit mode the platform lists me as Creator and Owner, and the group is set to the same group as the underlying land. I am still wearing the group owner title. - On the 600m-high platform, I repeat the process I went through on the ground: I create a new prim, then take it into my inventory. BUT, when I drag it from inventory back onto the platform to rez it, I get the message "Failed to place object at specified location. Please try again." Can anyone enlighten me as to why this is failing? It doesn't appear to be a temporary situation as I've tried repeatedly over a several hour timespan.
Cocoanut Koala Coco's Cottages Join date: 7 Feb 2005 Posts: 7,903	04-06-2007 20:44 My experience is that this happens on the ground. I try to rez something on a platform I have on the ground. Won't work. I try a bunch of angles. Finally I get sick of trying and just rez it on the GROUND. Then - no problem. For some reason, this problem has gotten worse in past months. Rezzing likes the ground; rezzing doesn't like a tabletop. All I can suggest is trying different camera angles. I don't build in a skybox, so I don't have any other advice; maybe someone else does. coco _____________________ VALENTINE BOUTIQUE at Coco's Cottages http://slurl.com/secondlife/Rosieri/85/166/87
Cyd Woolley Carpe Cerevisiam Join date: 6 Jan 2007 Posts: 21	04-06-2007 20:57 Thanks Coco, but I've been able to rez on the sky platform many times before during the days leading up to when this problem appeared. (It first appeared early today.) Perhaps it is a bug that was recently introduced into the grid by the Lindens. Any other thoughts from others?
Faybot Foxley Morgana Le Fey's Landbot Join date: 3 Apr 2007 Posts: 166	04-06-2007 21:13 The "failed to rez object" is not a new bug. It is a very old server problem. I work up in the sky a lot on a platform around 600M in the air also. It is on a private island. I have been getting that message lately also. It is probably related to server issues, and there really isn't anything we can do about it. Make sure you do not rez anything no copy while this is happening. It might be best to rez an object that is copyable and free as a test before attempting to rez anything no copy. The weekends are known to put a lot of stress on the servers because of high usage.
Cyd Woolley Carpe Cerevisiam Join date: 6 Jan 2007 Posts: 21	04-06-2007 21:57 Thanks Faybot. I'm glad I am not alone in this experience. I am submitting a tech support email to LL. One odd thing about my scenario is that my sky platform (it's actually a small sky mall I'm building) is comprised of multiple prims (all box shapes). Some are hollow and cut to form L-shaped wall/floor pieces, and some are non-hollow flat pieces. It seems that I can rezz on the non-hollow prims just fine; it's rezzing on the hollowed/cut prims that that is consistently failing. More thoughts from others are still welcome.
Warda Kawabata Amityville Horror Join date: 4 Nov 2005 Posts: 1,300	04-06-2007 23:25 Is that platform made with a supersize (>10m) prim? There is a known issue with those prims not being recognised as valid objects when trying to rez something against them. _____________________ I rent out land on private islands. Message me in-world for details.
Cyd Woolley Carpe Cerevisiam Join date: 6 Jan 2007 Posts: 21	04-06-2007 23:41 No, they're all 10m or less in all dimensions. I've narrowed it down to being related to rezzing on the surfaces of hollow prims. When I take a hollow prim and 'fill it' (i.e., set Hollow=0), the problem goes away.