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Delion Leroux

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04-01-2007 18:46

Could this mean trouble?
Creator of Leading 3D Virtual World - Linden Lab Caught Off Guard?

San Francisco, CA – April 1, 2007 – Linden Lab®, creator of 3D virtual world Second Life® (www.secondlife.com), is now faced with the prospect of losing it's own virtual real estate. What appears to be a mishap by "Governor Linden" could turn into something with far reaching consequences.

Apparently the Welcome Area land was being transferred during a planned maintenance operation, when it was accidentally set purchasable by anyone. Within 3 seconds the land was grabbed. The land ownership now appears owned by an automated computer program. Known to residents as the "Supreme Landbot Ninja", it has been causing havoc in this virtual world for the past several weeks. Rumors have spread that it was created by "Plastic Duck" in cohorts with another anonymous rogue scripter. As of today the land has been put back up into the market for sale, several land speculators have started creating 16 square meter plots known as "Sim Killers"....

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Gaybot Foxley

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04-01-2007 18:51

lol Did you know Phillip Linden is actually a bot?

Ylikone Obscure

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04-01-2007 18:56

Did this happen before or after SL was bought out by Blockbuster?

Raudf Fox

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04-01-2007 19:07

Is it wrong to kinda wish that this wasn't an April Fools Joke?

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Colette Meiji

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04-01-2007 19:09

From: Raudf Fox

Is it wrong to kinda wish that this wasn't an April Fools Joke?

I agree lol - would finally get them to go .. WOW .. we have a problem

Osgeld Barmy

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04-01-2007 19:27

lol hope its true, little taste of what everyone else has to deal with might be good for LL

Seth Ock

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04-01-2007 22:35

I bet something like this really happens within the next few months!

Dnate Mars

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04-01-2007 22:53

sure, but then LL will just reclaim the land.

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Yiffy Yaffle

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04-02-2007 06:55

Yea i doubt that LL will just let something like this happen. If it does ever happen, they will definitely roll all 4 sims back to a older state before it happened.

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Dekker Boa

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Bots are illegal, so why are they still around?

04-02-2007 07:30

Bots are illegal. It creates an unfair advantage for the other players.

LL can simply take the land back if they want to. Simple. They have every right to, while at the same time banning the bot account.

Raudf Fox

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04-02-2007 07:47

From: Dekker Boa

Bots are illegal. It creates an unfair advantage for the other players.

LL can simply take the land back if they want to. Simple. They have every right to, while at the same time banning the bot account.

Yes, but imagine the fun that we would have in being able to point at laugh at LL for it happening. And the feeling of triumph those who had it happen to them would feel, for all the times LL had not helped them. Maybe it would wake the company up to the actual issue that the regular user faces.

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Colette Meiji

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04-02-2007 07:55

From: Dekker Boa

Bots are illegal. It creates an unfair advantage for the other players.

LL can simply take the land back if they want to. Simple. They have every right to, while at the same time banning the bot account.

Actually no - bots are not illegal in Second Life.

Hence the Dozen or so recent landbots threads. IF landbots were illegal, then we could report them and get them removed. Unfortunately they are not, and thus we can not.

Dekker Boa

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LandBots are illegal

04-02-2007 08:46

From: Colette Meiji

Actually no - bots are not illegal in Second Life.

Hence the Dozen or so recent landbots threads. IF landbots were illegal, then we could report them and get them removed. Unfortunately they are not, and thus we can not.

Regardless, it creates an unfair advantage for other players -- because it's a bot with automated tasks. This applies to any other game, which has rules on the very same subject.

In addition, bots are using an unnecessary amount of LL's resources with the constant automatic queries it executes to LL's server every few seconds.

Pretty clear that they are illegal, and should be illegal for Second Life as well. The reason it's not illegal yet, is because LL doesn't have the man power (programmers) to create statistic bots that analyze player behavior to detect bot actions.

Why does it take dozens of landbots threads to get a point across to LL? Or maybe the point has been made, and I should be asking instead Why does it take dozens of landbots threads to get a response from LL? Wait, have we received a response from LL yet on this subject? I'm guessing not, since, hence the dozen of recent landbots threads. Right?

Har Fairweather

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04-02-2007 09:04

From: Dekker Boa

Regardless, it creates an unfair advantage for other players -- because it's a bot with automated tasks. This applies to any other game, which has rules on the very same subject.

In addition, bots are using an unnecessary amount of LL's resources with the constant automatic queries it executes to LL's server every few seconds.

Pretty clear that they are illegal, and should be illegal for Second Life as well. The reason it's not illegal yet, is because LL doesn't have the man power (programmers) to create statistic bots that analyze player behavior to detect bot actions.

Why does it take dozens of landbots threads to get a point across to LL? Or maybe the point has been made, and I should be asking instead Why does it take dozens of landbots threads to get a response from LL? Wait, have we received a response from LL yet on this subject? I'm guessing not, since, hence the dozen of recent landbots threads. Right?

Interesting question: Who exactly is running these landbots that are flipping properties? Gotta hope it's not somebody or somebodies with an LL connection...

Colette Meiji

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04-02-2007 09:10

From: Dekker Boa

Regardless, it creates an unfair advantage for other players -- because it's a bot with automated tasks. This applies to any other game, which has rules on the very same subject.

In addition, bots are using an unnecessary amount of LL's resources with the constant automatic queries it executes to LL's server every few seconds.

Pretty clear that they are illegal, and should be illegal for Second Life as well. The reason it's not illegal yet, is because LL doesn't have the man power (programmers) to create statistic bots that analyze player behavior to detect bot actions.

Why does it take dozens of landbots threads to get a point across to LL? Or maybe the point has been made, and I should be asking instead Why does it take dozens of landbots threads to get a response from LL? Wait, have we received a response from LL yet on this subject? I'm guessing not, since, hence the dozen of recent landbots threads. Right?

Well to define something as "illegal" Linden labs would have to do so. And right now they know about the bots and are not removing them.

Theres been a big push to GET linden labs to remove the bots. But until Linden Labs says they are illegal - they are not.

They dont need statistics, they know who the major bot owners are. Besides as soon as they declared bots illegal would be plenty of people turning them in.

Id be interested to know where you get your information. Since theres been literally hundreds of posts on this subject and no one has spoken with the certaintity you have on them being illegal in the TOS.

A lot would like to get it to that point. Some people have been quite vocal championing that landbots use excessive resources, etc.

But no one - Except you - has said that Linden Labs feels they are illegal but dont have enough programers to do anything about it yet.

NEWS FLASH: Landbot Buys Welcome Area, Lindens caught off guard!
Delion Leroux LVX Join date: 1 Nov 2006 Posts: 17	04-01-2007 18:46 Could this mean trouble? Creator of Leading 3D Virtual World - Linden Lab Caught Off Guard? San Francisco, CA – April 1, 2007 – Linden Lab®, creator of 3D virtual world Second Life® (www.secondlife.com), is now faced with the prospect of losing it's own virtual real estate. What appears to be a mishap by "Governor Linden" could turn into something with far reaching consequences. Apparently the Welcome Area land was being transferred during a planned maintenance operation, when it was accidentally set purchasable by anyone. Within 3 seconds the land was grabbed. The land ownership now appears owned by an automated computer program. Known to residents as the "Supreme Landbot Ninja", it has been causing havoc in this virtual world for the past several weeks. Rumors have spread that it was created by "Plastic Duck" in cohorts with another anonymous rogue scripter. As of today the land has been put back up into the market for sale, several land speculators have started creating 16 square meter plots known as "Sim Killers".... [snip]
Gaybot Foxley Input Collector Join date: 15 Nov 2006 Posts: 584	04-01-2007 18:51 lol Did you know Phillip Linden is actually a bot?
Ylikone Obscure Amatuer Troll Join date: 24 Jan 2007 Posts: 335	04-01-2007 18:56 Did this happen before or after SL was bought out by Blockbuster?
Raudf Fox (ra-ow-th) Join date: 25 Feb 2005 Posts: 5,119	04-01-2007 19:07 Is it wrong to kinda wish that this wasn't an April Fools Joke? _____________________ DiamonX Studios, the place of the Victorian Times series of gowns and dresses - Located at http://slurl.com/secondlife/Fushida/224/176 Want more attachment points for your avatar's wearing pleasure? Then please vote for https://jira.secondlife.com/browse/VWR-1065?
Colette Meiji Registered User Join date: 25 Mar 2005 Posts: 15,556	04-01-2007 19:09 From: Raudf Fox Is it wrong to kinda wish that this wasn't an April Fools Joke? I agree lol - would finally get them to go .. WOW .. we have a problem
Osgeld Barmy Registered User Join date: 22 Mar 2005 Posts: 3,336	04-01-2007 19:27 lol hope its true, little taste of what everyone else has to deal with might be good for LL
Seth Ock Registered User Join date: 3 Dec 2006 Posts: 35	04-01-2007 22:35 I bet something like this really happens within the next few months!
Dnate Mars Lost Join date: 27 Jan 2004 Posts: 1,309	04-01-2007 22:53 sure, but then LL will just reclaim the land. _____________________ Visit my website: www.dnatemars.com From: Cristiano Midnight This forum is weird.
Yiffy Yaffle Purple SpiritWolf Mystic Join date: 22 Oct 2004 Posts: 2,802	04-02-2007 06:55 Yea i doubt that LL will just let something like this happen. If it does ever happen, they will definitely roll all 4 sims back to a older state before it happened. _____________________ YouTube channel -+- Website -+- RezzedNet Profile
Dekker Boa Dekker Edmonton Join date: 21 Mar 2007 Posts: 54	Bots are illegal, so why are they still around? 04-02-2007 07:30 Bots are illegal. It creates an unfair advantage for the other players. LL can simply take the land back if they want to. Simple. They have every right to, while at the same time banning the bot account.
Raudf Fox (ra-ow-th) Join date: 25 Feb 2005 Posts: 5,119	04-02-2007 07:47 From: Dekker Boa Bots are illegal. It creates an unfair advantage for the other players. LL can simply take the land back if they want to. Simple. They have every right to, while at the same time banning the bot account. Yes, but imagine the fun that we would have in being able to point at laugh at LL for it happening. And the feeling of triumph those who had it happen to them would feel, for all the times LL had not helped them. Maybe it would wake the company up to the actual issue that the regular user faces. _____________________ DiamonX Studios, the place of the Victorian Times series of gowns and dresses - Located at http://slurl.com/secondlife/Fushida/224/176 Want more attachment points for your avatar's wearing pleasure? Then please vote for https://jira.secondlife.com/browse/VWR-1065?
Colette Meiji Registered User Join date: 25 Mar 2005 Posts: 15,556	04-02-2007 07:55 From: Dekker Boa Bots are illegal. It creates an unfair advantage for the other players. LL can simply take the land back if they want to. Simple. They have every right to, while at the same time banning the bot account. Actually no - bots are not illegal in Second Life. Hence the Dozen or so recent landbots threads. IF landbots were illegal, then we could report them and get them removed. Unfortunately they are not, and thus we can not.
Dekker Boa Dekker Edmonton Join date: 21 Mar 2007 Posts: 54	LandBots are illegal 04-02-2007 08:46 From: Colette Meiji Actually no - bots are not illegal in Second Life. Hence the Dozen or so recent landbots threads. IF landbots were illegal, then we could report them and get them removed. Unfortunately they are not, and thus we can not. Regardless, it creates an unfair advantage for other players -- because it's a bot with automated tasks. This applies to any other game, which has rules on the very same subject. In addition, bots are using an unnecessary amount of LL's resources with the constant automatic queries it executes to LL's server every few seconds. Pretty clear that they are illegal, and should be illegal for Second Life as well. The reason it's not illegal yet, is because LL doesn't have the man power (programmers) to create statistic bots that analyze player behavior to detect bot actions. Why does it take dozens of landbots threads to get a point across to LL? Or maybe the point has been made, and I should be asking instead Why does it take dozens of landbots threads to get a response from LL? Wait, have we received a response from LL yet on this subject? I'm guessing not, since, hence the dozen of recent landbots threads. Right?
Har Fairweather Registered User Join date: 24 Jan 2007 Posts: 2,320	04-02-2007 09:04 From: Dekker Boa Regardless, it creates an unfair advantage for other players -- because it's a bot with automated tasks. This applies to any other game, which has rules on the very same subject. In addition, bots are using an unnecessary amount of LL's resources with the constant automatic queries it executes to LL's server every few seconds. Pretty clear that they are illegal, and should be illegal for Second Life as well. The reason it's not illegal yet, is because LL doesn't have the man power (programmers) to create statistic bots that analyze player behavior to detect bot actions. Why does it take dozens of landbots threads to get a point across to LL? Or maybe the point has been made, and I should be asking instead Why does it take dozens of landbots threads to get a response from LL? Wait, have we received a response from LL yet on this subject? I'm guessing not, since, hence the dozen of recent landbots threads. Right? Interesting question: Who exactly is running these landbots that are flipping properties? Gotta hope it's not somebody or somebodies with an LL connection...
Colette Meiji Registered User Join date: 25 Mar 2005 Posts: 15,556	04-02-2007 09:10 From: Dekker Boa Regardless, it creates an unfair advantage for other players -- because it's a bot with automated tasks. This applies to any other game, which has rules on the very same subject. In addition, bots are using an unnecessary amount of LL's resources with the constant automatic queries it executes to LL's server every few seconds. Pretty clear that they are illegal, and should be illegal for Second Life as well. The reason it's not illegal yet, is because LL doesn't have the man power (programmers) to create statistic bots that analyze player behavior to detect bot actions. Why does it take dozens of landbots threads to get a point across to LL? Or maybe the point has been made, and I should be asking instead Why does it take dozens of landbots threads to get a response from LL? Wait, have we received a response from LL yet on this subject? I'm guessing not, since, hence the dozen of recent landbots threads. Right? Well to define something as "illegal" Linden labs would have to do so. And right now they know about the bots and are not removing them. Theres been a big push to GET linden labs to remove the bots. But until Linden Labs says they are illegal - they are not. They dont need statistics, they know who the major bot owners are. Besides as soon as they declared bots illegal would be plenty of people turning them in. Id be interested to know where you get your information. Since theres been literally hundreds of posts on this subject and no one has spoken with the certaintity you have on them being illegal in the TOS. A lot would like to get it to that point. Some people have been quite vocal championing that landbots use excessive resources, etc. But no one - Except you - has said that Linden Labs feels they are illegal but dont have enough programers to do anything about it yet.

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