Opensourcing only benfits the exploiter

SO far from what I have seen, opensourcing the viewer has done near nothing but hand tools to the exploiters and harm the population in general. Lets face it, no one but the land bot operators really want the landbots around, ESC's bot has caused a huge stir also. What benefits have the residents seen in general directly related to the opensourcing of the viewer code?

I think it might be time to ask LL to remove the opensource viewer and limit only official viewers to connect to the grid

Ideas?

You know for a fact that no one has submitted any bug fixes for the viewer from the open source that is not in the current version?

No I do not know for fact submitted code is not in the newest viewers, but even if there where some, where is the credit, recognition, and would this be the reason we are currently dealing with the worst Second Life we have ever dealt with before?

Do you know for fact that there is? so far the only opensourcing acheivments I know of are exploits, whether LL calls them exploits or not they have not been implemented correctly and have been generally unwelcomed in the community

In the blog posts where they give item-by-item updates of what's in the latest release (noting bugs fixed and such), they DO in fact say things like "Thanks to [name] for this bug fix." Those are fixes that have come in because of the open sourcing.

You've obviously been ignoring the patch release notes for the last several months. They're not always blatent about which fixes come from contributions from the open source community but they do flag some of them.

I'd wager that the recent batch of client-side memory leaks that LL has fixed were found and reported by their open source community as well.

I'd happily put up with a dozen searchbots of different types if it meant getting bugs fixed faster.

well now you do know, for a fact, open source has fixed many bugs.


thanks

Does my memory fail me, or weren't there libsecondlife-based landbots before the viewer was open-sourced?

The landowner whose parcel is purchased by a landbot benefits as their land has sold more quickly.

Yep. The SL Dev mailing list shows open source developers getting involved in bug triages, fixing memory leaks, working on processor optimizations, etc. Also, bots were here months before the client was open sourced, and I believe most of those in-world still use libSL.

Dear Sir,
"Nothing."
Thank you.

To say that open source only benefits exploiters is an ignorant position to take. I mean that in the nicest possible way, but you simply can't know the extent to which non-exploiters have benefitted.

I think that's the list of good bug reporters from the Beta Grid. It was there long before SL went Open Source.

I better stop using my Open Source Operating System to run the Open Source SL client. And Damn it I'.m viewing this forum with and Open Source web browser. I feel so exploited.

Jackson: it would be in your best interests to read up on what Open Source actually is and how it works before making such broad sweeping statements against it.

Wow, and gee, we might as well stop using Linux, and OpenOffice, and Mozilla Firefox, and the Gimp, Blender, and many, many other open source projects.

If Windows was open source, it wouldn't take 5 CD's just to install it, because open source programmers streamline stuff, they don't just add to it like Microsoft does.

Open source is great for SL; basically Linden Lab is getting a couple of thousand free programmers who are working on SL because they WANT to, not because they're getting paid. Basically it's not like every programmer out there is working on SL. What happens is that a bug is reported, 30,000 programmers look at it and agree that it's a bug, 10 programmers decide that they want to work on that bug, and 2 are crazy enough to stay up for 20 hours straight fixing it. Whether they choose to work on the bug that YOU think is the most important is totally irrelevant.

Bots were around before SL ever went open source, and if you look on JIRA, you'll see patches that different people have attached to help FIX SL.

It's just silly to say that open source is bad. Duh.

Well, you're on the list.. so i guess you'd know!
I'm a fool. Sorry!

Oh, wow!

a) I never knew that;
and b) Some people who I remember being on the list before, aren't there any more. So it may well be based on recent updates.

As an option so someone other than a landbot owner can profit from a bargain purchase, people can also look at the first page of the land for sale in search and then set their land for sale at $L.05 less per meter than the cheapest land on the list. It will sell instantly.

If Land was underpriced before land bots it sold nearly instantly also thats not benefit to the seller at all.

It seems some people are responding like I said for fact that patches havent been introduced thru opensourcing. Which of course is not the case, I just love how the bloodsucking vampires come out to attack anything someone says. As far as the recent bug fixes, COME ON PEOPLE!!! we have the worst functioning enviroment that has ever been in SL, but this isnt a SL sux thread. point is where are the huge benefits that where spose to come? all I see is alot of old land flippers out of a job because the power was taken away from the many, and given to the few who could program in the exploits



And to call me ignorant... in the best possible words you can use? You need to chill the F&$K out mister. And thats not a request, shame on you for throwing mud for absolutely no reason at all

How do you come to the conclusion that Open Source is to blame for instability problems? There could any number of causes, and a great many of the recent issues may well be due to problems on the server side of the equation. i.e the bit that isn't yet Open Sourced.

As for SL bashing.. I don't see a lot of that going on in this thread. In fact I'd say the exact opposite.


Where is your proof that this has got to do with Open Sourcing the client. It's just like wild speculation.

Its hardly wild speculation that alot of land agents, or so called barons (ask any of them)are out of a job now that opensource viewers have enabled the creation of land bots that snag land within a millisecond of it being listed, you only have to look at the 1001 threads about the subject, definately not any form of wild speculation.

Why does everyone feel the need to argue?

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