Smart Skirts???

Hello,

I've been looking at posts and was wondering what a smart skirt was...and how to obtain the script for it (I'm assuming it's scripted, like the tear away skirts).

Thank you in advance for any information on it!

Ciao,
Jacq

I'd guess you mean the script that angles the skirt when you sit down so you get a slightly more natural appearance with some skirts instead of just seemingly sitting there in glitchpants and no skirt .

I think it's Nyte n Day that sells those? Not sure though .

(Found the link )
http://nytenday.blogspot.com/2007/09/prim-skirts-featuring-sensidress.html

Thanks much Kitty I'll go check them out.

Looks like I edited while you were replying .

Check out the link and included FAQ if you missed that part .

(Found this one too, but haven't personally used it:
http://raven-wear.blogspot.com/2007/09/sinister-scripture-new-smart-skirt.html )

Ahh read the blog...does anyone know who sells the script though? It's a great idea I'd love to put into my skirts as well.

Thanks again!
Jacq

Woo Kitty, you doll, rock!!!

Thank you much!

The script alone is for sale too...at least, the "semi automated' version.

I tried it on a very long, filmy overskirt, and was a bit disappointed. Apparently, the script understands if you edit the skirt as a whole...rotating it, for example. But if you edit individual prims in the skirt for fine positioning, the script doesn't put them back where they were when you stand up.

The idea's a good one...just not quite as good as I was hoping. Still worth it though.

I started to see dis in some of the kid clothing from Chelsea's Childrens' Clothes - it jes seems to adjust the skirt for sittin.

Mari

I've seen an automated version.... Made by a friend, just asked her and she's open sourced it.... she asked I not give out the LM until this w/e so she can tweak a few things.

customizes attachment positioning per user, per position.... so works with sits, ao's etc.... IM me inworld, and I'll drop it on you this w/e or at the very least a LM.

::been meaning to spam this to every prim/flexi skit maker around::

There is a script for sale in SL. You can buy it for your own personal use (to put in your own skirts) for 400L. If you want the LM to the shop that sells it send me an IM.
(Note I am not friends with the seller of the script or otherwise affiliated, I just like using it).


All the prim skirts I sell in my shop have it installed. It is great to be able to have the skirt position correctly when you sit.

I just realized everything i posted with the link I previously posted didn't show. The link above takes you to the page with the script posted for free. In case you didn't check it out. Sorry

Same for me, this script is available with all my flexi skirts and dresses products. In fact, I enclosed both versions ("Smart Skirt" scripted and non scripted version) in each items so the buyer have the choice to use it or not (but also, this script can be turn off with chat command).
I think that script is a really plus for girl in Second Life.

I purchased the script for individual use (to try it prior to paying the L$4000 for commercial usage) and it took me forever to figure out you had to rotate the skirt...NOT move the individual prims.

And you're right, while not a perfect solution, it sure is better than the old way.

~Ari

Its great to see the interest in these things.

I'm the author of the freeware "SkirtSitter" script that Lea linked to above. It was originally available at the Second Citizen forums, but they closed whilst I was away from SL for four weeks, and Lea's link became one of the few ways you could grab the script.

I've sinced uploaded the script (as source) and documentation/history to:

http://duchyofdarkmere.freeforums.org/viewtopic.php?t=538

There's an interesting discussion of the various skirt-scripts at:

http://www.slnn.com/index.php/article/about/sitting-pretty-deux/page/1.html

Hope that's useful information for you.

I also tried one of these miracle skirts and you know what? I went back to my old fashioned texture skirts.

I haven't seen it in action, but I'm going to make an educated guess that what's needed is to create the dress in two parts - an upper and a lower - and have a pivot prim in the lower part of it. Then you'd need to do a retrofit of a freebie swing script or door script and have it fire off with a set rotation on an animation change. I don't recall an event that detects this, so there's probably a timer in there as well - so it could be a bit laggy (which would explain why one of the scripts has an anti-lag feature) You might also need to calculate a vector offset for the pivot so it can shift about a bit too.

The tricky part would be knowing which animations need what kind of rotation. The script would require a dynamic list that stores the animation name (sit, stand, etc) and the positional and rotational offsets for each - or perhaps just a classification flag for "a sit", "a stand", "a walk", etc with fixed offsets for each general type.

Its a doable script, but its not something you can knock out in a couple hours - maybe a week of constant tweaking.

Other methods would offer better results...

(I am the author and seller of IntelliSkirt.)

IntelliSkirt allows you to move freely in a prim skirt. You'll be able to sit on objects or the ground, walk (backwards too), run, fly, and use pose stands.

To see it in action, check out Myllie Writer's PERSONA store blog and Nock Forager's Flickr photos here:
http://personasblog.blogspot.com/2007/10/nauka-umagas-intelliskirt.html
http://www.flickr.com/photos/26066359@N00/

IntelliSkirt comes with premade settings cards you can load, or you can fit the skirt yourself with Edit, IntelliSkirt will remember your fit. If you wish, you can save settings to cards and easily swap them in and out.

IntelliSkirt works in MOD skirts you already own, or MOD and NO MOD skirts you buy from designers who incorporate IntelliSkirt into their products.

L$50 - Individual Version, Single Skirt ( no mod / no copy / transfer )
L$200 - Individual Version, Multi Skirt ( no mod / copy / no transfer )
L$1000 - Business Version ( no mod / copy / transfer ) (October price)

IntelliSkirt is available here:
NU Gear - Kleene Corp ( 102, 103, 22 )
NU Gear - Touchwood Mall ( 142, 246, 21 )
NU Gear - Welcome Center ( 12, 87, 22 )

I tried a few other scripts (though not yet all) and wanted to make one that was more affordable, while allowing some things the ones I tried didn't, such as using pose stands and walking backwards.

Caveat Emptorium:

courtesy of Wind Meta Works

the Free & Open Source Attachment positioning script, as promised, is in the cart at the right of the doorway, marked "Free Things" in the striped box.

I pushed her to get this up, so the store itself is bare, but should be filled in this week. come back and check it out =)

gotta Plug for my talented friends

I believe Carricre Wind is also offering an open source Skirt Rotation thingee. I saw the beta version and it worked like a charm, but she wanted to polish it a bit. I have to give her a shout when next I'm in world to see if it's released yet.

EDIT: It's out on the freebie cart now in Endless Destruction at the Caveat Emporium.
http://slurl.com/secondlife/Endless%20Destruction/204/169/23
EDIT EDIT: You know, some of us are born airheads, and some of us remain so :/ Void Singer had posted the same blessed information right above this post......Ah well, the script deserves to be plugged twice.

It also can be used for any attachment. Carricre showed me a nice cane that demoed that effect with a walking and standing position.

The basic principle is fairly simple. The user moves the skirt into position, says "set sit" or what have you, then the script uses llGetRotate and llGetPos to read the parameters. A central root prim helps when setting the rotations. (if, like me, you use LoopRez to make your skirts, make the center ball the root prim).

Once on, the skirt works like an AO (with a relatively low speed timer event, IIRC), and uses llSetPrimitiveParams to rotate and move the whole skirt in response to the avatar's position.

Like all things, of course, the devil is in the details, that is, scripting it so it is nice, smooth, and low lag. What I saw looked pretty good.

I think it will be terrific for Victorian dresses, but less useful for some outfits (such as 17th/18th century overdresses) where the skirt would fall back and down naturally.

We should be running a sweep to see how many of these scripts are available by years end.

I'm shooting for 86 myself.

I had a go of some skirts with the script in it and... meh. The problem with prim skirts is that they don't move with the avatar and while this gives a bit of a "fix" for it, it's still not quite "natural." But then I like system skirts, so what do I know?

And am I right in assuming it uses a sensor for animations changes? Blingtards just got laggier, folks!

Well all the skirt scripts are going to add to the SIM load, that much is clear to me.

Not being an script expert I have no idea about the relative merits (in terms of execution efficiency) between the different scripts. Maybe someone could do a test ?

The one I use in my prim skirts (SmartSkirt) apparently senses when the SIM lag is getting too high and will turnoff in those situations. Again, how well this works I have no way of testing.

Looking at Carricre Wind's open source script, it uses a timer to poll the avatar state. In other words, it acts exactly like an AO, but with a slower timer than most. The llSetPrimitiveParams is called only when the avatar actually changes position. So, it should cause less lag than a typical AO. It can also be turned off if sim lag is an issue.

Mine is much the same, indeed its not obvious to me how else it could be done. So, I'd be surprised if any of these systems were big lag creators. If it was felt to be a concern, the obvious next step would be to tie them into one of the open-source AO's. Afterall, there's no need for both the AO *and* the attachment positioning script to run a timer-event-poll. And if you remove the poll from SkirtSitter, then 99.9% of the time it would be doing nothing apart for waiting for a link message.