Mail in SL name? Not email...snail mail???

Ok, is this where SL becomes RL? I'm now apparently receiving snail mail (ie credit card applications, adverts etc) in my Second Life name. Um, Just a question, wouldnt that have required SL to have SOLD my name and address to some list somewhere because I certainly dont use my SL name in RL, or at the very least handed out the address that matches the name. Anyone else have things like this turn up in your mailbox??

No I havent wow how funny. Yes either your info was sold or a spammer got hold of your sl name somehow and put it on a list with your address from something you posted on a message board ? Its a mystery ... if linden gives you and answer let me know I feel curious about this.

Elinah

I've sent LL an email asking about this, but I'm not all that sure I will ever get an answer. While I dont mind getting the mail, it just goes into the other pile of junk to get used under playdough around here, I am concerned about what other information might be vulnerable.

I cant be the only one that has received mail if lists are being handed out. I also cashed out some USD from my linden account for the first time about a month ago, I'm wondering if that had something to do with it or not. Guess I should be glad I didnt create a name out of a joke with the last name. There could be some interesting names on credit cards soon

Ever use Hippy Pay?

Nope. Never even checked it out after some friends says that they want personal info like that. Been racking my brain and cant find ANY site or instance where I have used the same name that has my address. *shrugs*

sounds like someone gave out your RL address somewhere

An email that uses your SL name?

LL themselves?

The security breech of Sept 06?

This new billing company?

What IS the new billing company, anyway?

coco

wtf?




Also, has any one noticed LL took the RL name slot out of our account page?

Did you create a throwaway email address with your avatar name? Perhaps this is where the info is originating from...

Why so they did. I guess they decided to make our private information super-safe by removing it from the website.

I haven't received any junk mail in the avatar name, although I have received phishing scams concerning SL. I noticed the blog in your profile, Ashlynn. Only thing I can think of is that someone tracked the SL name to the blog and done some digging? *shrugs*

I was glad to see they removed RL names. Not information most would want a hacker to see

Haven't received any snail mail for my SL persona. But yesterday I did get some junk mail for the pseudonym I use on websites I don't trust. You'd think SOMEONE would get it and clean the list. I mean Nunya Bizness...... come on its not hard to work that one out.

Unsurprisingly its from America. Reselling personal information is much more heavily controlled in the UK and much of Europe. You have to actively opt in to being put on a mailing list. And separately opt in to have your name passed on.

Did you make reference to your RL name and SL name on a website somewhere? Trawler bots pick up almost anything resembling a name or email address. If the website was registered in your RL name, they can find out certain levels of information via 'whois'.

I've gone through all the information from places people mentioned. The blog, no address included and the email address I use in SL is the same as the blog, not a throw away. From every site I've looked at, none have my avie name with my address information tossed in. Also, on sites I find iffy on trust, I put in a false address anyway (shhhhhhh!!). *taps chin* Just cant figure out any other way but from within SL and, surprise, they havent replied to the email I sent yet lol. I cant wait to see what other offers Ash gets

Only thing I could think of was perhaps the credit card I have on SL file...but thats charged to my RL name, not SL...so how on earth did Ashlynn Dawn escape from SL into RL? Beware if you dont give your avie and second life enough attention, they try and break free with credit cards!!! Sneaky lil wench lol

Scary thought, considering my AV can spend lindens like they grow on trees, when she's so inclined.

From the secret lab beneath Linden Lab... the clones are coming...

*snicker*

Seriously, I would have to guess that if LL didn't sell the data outright, then maybe this is related to the security breech that that had months ago, when they forced all residents to change their passwords. Maybe some of the data was sufficient to put avatar names and Player postal addresses together, even if credit card data remained secure.

One serious thought. Strictly a conjecture...

A certain large Real Estate firm from the Real World claimed recently to have access to a database that would allow them to determine who was and was not already a land owner in SL... Including the ability to identify alts of land owners.

Do you own any mainland property? If you do, and if LL gave that real world Realty company sufficient data... I wouldn't put it past such a company to sell the data themselves, or to have their own access to those lists hacked. Such a DB wouldn't need to know credit data, but might well link avatar names to postal addresses and to each other (for identifying alts). It also might concievably NOT have a real name associated with the postal address... Again, said realty company would not need to know either your credit card data or your real name to identify and weed out from their privately run First Land program those avatars and alts already known to be mainland land owners. A postal address and the associated avatar name(s) would be enough. A dishonest realator, or a thief that hacked that data, might not realize that the names associated with the postal addresses are not real people. Or might not care, as long as the companies buying the mailing list thought those names looked good.

As far as I can see it, that is still giving away my personal information. I own 3 private sims and about a full sims worth of mainland property. Imagine the amount of people that own mainland and their information was just handed over to another company without their permission? Oy, oy, oy.

I hadn't heard there was a new billing company, but I did hear that LL moved their billing department to the UK. Any truth to this? Anyone have any more information they can share? (sorry don't mean to derail)

I would SO take out a credit card in my AV's name! And a drivers license!!

No wonder credit processing takes so long now

"Can't do that, love. Regulations innit."

Blurry cheek!!

Gordon Bennett! Ya mean I pay pounds, to get converted into dollars, to get converted into pounds .. to get .. converted ... into .. dollars .. before I get me lindens?

Blimey! you're right .. no wonder!!!

Hey Ceera,

Do you have a reference link on this? Where did you get this info?

You can always petition the Court for a name change! I thought about it, but then it wouldn't look so good going to Back - To - School Night and introducing myself to a first grade teacher as MadamG Zagato (laughs).

O_O

Look here

Two SL residents went and talked to an employee of that realator, in-world. The report was that the realtor's cheap land sales program was "Going to be restricted to newbies, they claim to have an extensive database of land holders and alts." and "The person we talked to was very open and friendly, was was just an employee so couldn't provide many of the technical details behind the checks they intend to do to applicants."

Hence, my speculation. How could this realator have "an extensive database of land holders and alts"? What information would be required to do that. The least information I can imagine for that, which would enable them to also prevent someone from using a new alt to evade being deetected as a current land owner, would be a database that correlates avatar names and postal address. They wouldn't need real names or credit data. Just a list of alts associated with a given postal address.

Where they got this database, and what it actually contains, no one has publicly stated, to my knowledge. I can't see how they could have a useful database of that sort without LL cooperating and selling it to them.

There simply is no way of them having that information without LL's assistance in the matter. Even so, to me that is LL handing out personal information to a 3rd party that in no way is entitled to it. I dont care how many companies come into world with great ideas to help out only certain groups of people, they dont need my information to do that and they certainly dont need to then hand that information out to yet another party.

I know this is horrid to admit, but I havent gone into the TOS or looked into whether or not LL says they will or will not keep personal information (IE; addresses) private. Anyone have that? I'm horrid at searching for things.