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Martin Mounier

Laguna Nude Beach

Join date: 16 Jul 2005

Posts: 24

10-09-2006 04:05

Hello there,

Jeska wrote:
"2:30am PST: About a half hour ago we emptied out the grid and switched to Linden login only. We are currently investigating a potential exploit. I wanted to thank all of you for your patience on what has been a very long day."

Uhm... "investigating a potential exploit"? Is it a new exploit or the "old one" from last night (replicating objects given to citizens)? My sympathy to all the hard working Lindens... 2:30am... wow...

P.S.: LL, stop "open registration" to SL and thus grant a bit more sleep to your staff in the future.

Jakkal Dingo

Equal Opp. Offender

Join date: 16 Feb 2005

Posts: 283

10-09-2006 04:17

Has anyone noticed that her forum avatar seems to look more and more depressed everytime she makes a post?

Okay that's it, I'm going to bed now. I'm seeing things.

John Horner

Registered User

Join date: 27 Jun 2006

Posts: 626

10-09-2006 04:17

I think it is to do with file permissions, i. e. all have become full permission enabled.........

Jessica Elytis

Goddess

Join date: 7 Oct 2005

Posts: 1,783

10-09-2006 04:50

I would guess it's a new exploit. If John is correct, I'm extremely glad LL took the grid down. Given the speed at which it was dropped, I'm thinking whatever it is was very serious.

~Jessy

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Chosen Few

Alpha Channel Slave

Join date: 16 Jan 2004

Posts: 7,496

10-09-2006 04:53

Ouch! I hope you're wrong about that, John.

There was a bug a couple years back in an update that briefly caused all items inside vendors to go full perms. The results, as I'm sure you an imagine, were somewhat disastrous. LL fixed the problem pretty quickly, but not before a good deal of permanent damage had been done. Obviously, once an item goes full perms and someone gets a copy of it, there's no going back.

If the permissions system is once again in danger, there may be some dark skies ahead. I sure hope that's not what's going on.

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Elgyfu Wishbringer

The Pootler

Join date: 27 Nov 2004

Posts: 659

10-09-2006 05:01

If it was full perms inside vendors there was no danger to retailers - no one could use the blasted vendors because all the scripts have been disabled today

Jesseaitui Petion

king of polynesia :P

Join date: 2 Jan 2006

Posts: 2,175

10-09-2006 05:02

From: John Horner

I think it is to do with file permissions, i. e. all have become full permission enabled.........

Ehh I was wondering why i was able to transfer a house I wasn`t able to before...

Elgyfu Wishbringer

The Pootler

Join date: 27 Nov 2004

Posts: 659

10-09-2006 05:06

Hmm, I was just thinking further about the implications of retailer's stock going full perms.

I wonder where the Lindens would stand legally on this issue? A lot of people would stand to loose a lot of money. In-game shops are a strange, new concept, really.

I am going to have a closer look at the TOS - does any one know any websites with info about precedences/legalities of this type of retailing and the implications of such glitches?

Fade Languish

I just build stuff...

Join date: 20 Oct 2005

Posts: 1,760

10-09-2006 05:08

From: Jessica Elytis

I would guess it's a new exploit. If John is correct, I'm extremely glad LL took the grid down. Given the speed at which it was dropped, I'm thinking whatever it is was very serious.

Agreed. If it's what I've been reading, I'm glad it's down.

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Elgyfu Wishbringer

The Pootler

Join date: 27 Nov 2004

Posts: 659

10-09-2006 05:13

If it could be proved that someone had taken advantage of this situation before the grid was pulled, I assume the Lindens would do some sort of role-back to rectify that.

A friend has just informed me (nervously) that just before the grid went down, someone was buying up nearly all her skin textures. She was just about to go and have a look at their perms when the Lindens pulled the plug. Her textures are Copy/Mod. Obviously, if someone now has them full perms they could seriously threaten her, currently thriving, business

Jesseaitui Petion

king of polynesia :P

Join date: 2 Jan 2006

Posts: 2,175

10-09-2006 05:17

From: Elgyfu Wishbringer

A friend has just informed me (nervously) that just before the grid went down, someone was buying up nearly all her skin textures. She was just about to go and have a look at their perms when the Lindens pulled the plug. Her textures are Copy/Mod. Obviously, if someone now has them full perms they could seriously threaten her, currently thriving, business

The grid went down a few days ago and before it did I too had someone in my store buying everything.........thought it was a tad strange- now im worried

*Nervous laugh*

Mephisto Brennen

No Copy / Mod / Transfer

Join date: 20 Jul 2006

Posts: 84

10-09-2006 05:19

I seriously hope that it's not true about the full perm. It would partly ruin the work i did if I sell something, and somebody else is selling it because it is full permit, maybe even give away.... yes, if this is true, dark skies will come.

I was this mornign at school and haven't monitored my vendors..... but if this is all true and some lunatic just actually came buy and bought everything.... EEEEK !!!!

And the sim was up before they took off all the scripts... so I dunno anymore what to think....

Martin Mounier

Laguna Nude Beach

Join date: 16 Jul 2005

Posts: 24

Permission bug detected

10-09-2006 05:54

Holy Cow! quote: "5:30am PST: We’ve created a patch for the exploit, which involved a permissions bug, ..."

I am curious to know what exactly it was. We'll come to know after the Lindens got some sleep

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Elgyfu Wishbringer

The Pootler

Join date: 27 Nov 2004

Posts: 659

10-09-2006 05:56

Now we will all be stressing whether we have lost some of our precious stock to opportunists,heh

Dimentox Travanti

DCS Coder

Join date: 10 Sep 2006

Posts: 228

10-09-2006 06:26

A friend of mine does resell of thing they dont use anymore. And was xfering the stuff to a sell box, he noticed that it COPIED not moved. Ofcourse being honest people he destroied the copy. (he runs an honest resell shop not a thief shop)

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Raindrop Drinkwater

Globally Creative

Join date: 28 Jun 2006

Posts: 240

10-09-2006 09:38

... Does it mean ALL items have become full perms ? Or just the ones that were copied or transferred within the "window of opportunity" ?
Hopefully all the permissions have been rolled back (including on the items that were stuffed up), and any transfers or copies have been rolled back as well.

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Jeska: "investigating a potential exploit" - a new one?

Jeska: "investigating a potential exploit" - a new one?
Martin Mounier Laguna Nude Beach Join date: 16 Jul 2005 Posts: 24	10-09-2006 04:05 Hello there, Jeska wrote: "2:30am PST: About a half hour ago we emptied out the grid and switched to Linden login only. We are currently investigating a potential exploit. I wanted to thank all of you for your patience on what has been a very long day." Uhm... "investigating a potential exploit"? Is it a new exploit or the "old one" from last night (replicating objects given to citizens)? My sympathy to all the hard working Lindens... 2:30am... wow... P.S.: LL, stop "open registration" to SL and thus grant a bit more sleep to your staff in the future.
Jakkal Dingo Equal Opp. Offender Join date: 16 Feb 2005 Posts: 283	10-09-2006 04:17 Has anyone noticed that her forum avatar seems to look more and more depressed everytime she makes a post? Okay that's it, I'm going to bed now. I'm seeing things.
John Horner Registered User Join date: 27 Jun 2006 Posts: 626	10-09-2006 04:17 I think it is to do with file permissions, i. e. all have become full permission enabled.........
Jessica Elytis Goddess Join date: 7 Oct 2005 Posts: 1,783	10-09-2006 04:50 I would guess it's a new exploit. If John is correct, I'm extremely glad LL took the grid down. Given the speed at which it was dropped, I'm thinking whatever it is was very serious. ~Jessy _____________________ When your friend does somethign stupid: From: Aldo Stern Dude, you are a true and good friend, and I love you like the brother that my mom claims she never had, but you are in fact acting like a flaming douche on white toast with a side order of dickknob salsa..maybe you should reconsider this course of action and we go find something else to do.
Chosen Few Alpha Channel Slave Join date: 16 Jan 2004 Posts: 7,496	10-09-2006 04:53 Ouch! I hope you're wrong about that, John. There was a bug a couple years back in an update that briefly caused all items inside vendors to go full perms. The results, as I'm sure you an imagine, were somewhat disastrous. LL fixed the problem pretty quickly, but not before a good deal of permanent damage had been done. Obviously, once an item goes full perms and someone gets a copy of it, there's no going back. If the permissions system is once again in danger, there may be some dark skies ahead. I sure hope that's not what's going on. _____________________ . Land now available for rent in Indigo. Low rates. Quiet, low-lag mainland sim with good neighbors. IM me in-world if you're interested.
Elgyfu Wishbringer The Pootler Join date: 27 Nov 2004 Posts: 659	10-09-2006 05:01 If it was full perms inside vendors there was no danger to retailers - no one could use the blasted vendors because all the scripts have been disabled today
Jesseaitui Petion king of polynesia :P Join date: 2 Jan 2006 Posts: 2,175	10-09-2006 05:02 From: John Horner I think it is to do with file permissions, i. e. all have become full permission enabled......... Ehh I was wondering why i was able to transfer a house I wasn`t able to before...
Elgyfu Wishbringer The Pootler Join date: 27 Nov 2004 Posts: 659	10-09-2006 05:06 Hmm, I was just thinking further about the implications of retailer's stock going full perms. I wonder where the Lindens would stand legally on this issue? A lot of people would stand to loose a lot of money. In-game shops are a strange, new concept, really. I am going to have a closer look at the TOS - does any one know any websites with info about precedences/legalities of this type of retailing and the implications of such glitches?
Fade Languish I just build stuff... Join date: 20 Oct 2005 Posts: 1,760	10-09-2006 05:08 From: Jessica Elytis I would guess it's a new exploit. If John is correct, I'm extremely glad LL took the grid down. Given the speed at which it was dropped, I'm thinking whatever it is was very serious. Agreed. If it's what I've been reading, I'm glad it's down. _____________________
Elgyfu Wishbringer The Pootler Join date: 27 Nov 2004 Posts: 659	10-09-2006 05:13 If it could be proved that someone had taken advantage of this situation before the grid was pulled, I assume the Lindens would do some sort of role-back to rectify that. A friend has just informed me (nervously) that just before the grid went down, someone was buying up nearly all her skin textures. She was just about to go and have a look at their perms when the Lindens pulled the plug. Her textures are Copy/Mod. Obviously, if someone now has them full perms they could seriously threaten her, currently thriving, business
Jesseaitui Petion king of polynesia :P Join date: 2 Jan 2006 Posts: 2,175	10-09-2006 05:17 From: Elgyfu Wishbringer A friend has just informed me (nervously) that just before the grid went down, someone was buying up nearly all her skin textures. She was just about to go and have a look at their perms when the Lindens pulled the plug. Her textures are Copy/Mod. Obviously, if someone now has them full perms they could seriously threaten her, currently thriving, business The grid went down a few days ago and before it did I too had someone in my store buying everything.........thought it was a tad strange- now im worried Nervous laugh
Mephisto Brennen No Copy / Mod / Transfer Join date: 20 Jul 2006 Posts: 84	10-09-2006 05:19 I seriously hope that it's not true about the full perm. It would partly ruin the work i did if I sell something, and somebody else is selling it because it is full permit, maybe even give away.... yes, if this is true, dark skies will come. I was this mornign at school and haven't monitored my vendors..... but if this is all true and some lunatic just actually came buy and bought everything.... EEEEK !!!! And the sim was up before they took off all the scripts... so I dunno anymore what to think....
Martin Mounier Laguna Nude Beach Join date: 16 Jul 2005 Posts: 24	Permission bug detected 10-09-2006 05:54 Holy Cow! quote: "5:30am PST: We’ve created a patch for the exploit, which involved a permissions bug, ..." I am curious to know what exactly it was. We'll come to know after the Lindens got some sleep _____________________ Greets, Martin _______________________________________________
Elgyfu Wishbringer The Pootler Join date: 27 Nov 2004 Posts: 659	10-09-2006 05:56 Now we will all be stressing whether we have lost some of our precious stock to opportunists,heh
Dimentox Travanti DCS Coder Join date: 10 Sep 2006 Posts: 228	10-09-2006 06:26 A friend of mine does resell of thing they dont use anymore. And was xfering the stuff to a sell box, he noticed that it COPIED not moved. Ofcourse being honest people he destroied the copy. (he runs an honest resell shop not a thief shop) _____________________ LSL Scripting Database - http://lsl.dimentox.com
Raindrop Drinkwater Globally Creative Join date: 28 Jun 2006 Posts: 240	10-09-2006 09:38 ... Does it mean ALL items have become full perms ? Or just the ones that were copied or transferred within the "window of opportunity" ? Hopefully all the permissions have been rolled back (including on the items that were stuffed up), and any transfers or copies have been rolled back as well.