Can I change my last name?
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Yoshimoto Vandyke
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04-24-2007 02:39
Hiya guys! When I made my SL account I was in hurry and just used one I liked... but but now I have seen Japanese last names and I want Japanese last name. Is there a fee you pay for service? Where can I do it? I would create new account...but but I buy lots and lots of cloathes I cant transfer 
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Ricky Yates
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04-24-2007 03:44
From: Yoshimoto Vandyke Hiya guys! When I made my SL account I was in hurry and just used one I liked... but but now I have seen Japanese last names and I want Japanese last name. Is there a fee you pay for service? Where can I do it? I would create new account...but but I buy lots and lots of cloathes I cant transfer  Sorry, your name is fixed and cannot be changed. You will have to register an alt (and go buy the non-transferable stuff again, I fear).
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Amy Stork
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04-24-2007 09:07
I think Yoshi Vandyke is quite a cool name actually 
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Colette Meiji
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04-24-2007 09:10
you hear rumors that the Lindens can change your name.
I would think you need a reason though?
Something beyond not liking it =/
A lot of people wouls pay to change their name if the service was offered. Linden Labs is missing out on a decent source of income.
One potential excuse -
Start hanging out with crazy stalker types - get harrassed then plead for help.
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Ceera Murakami
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04-24-2007 09:15
Afraid you'll have to just create a new account, transsfer what you can, and re-purchase any non-transferrable items. LL Policy right now is that the only "name change" they will ever do is to correct a lower case first letter in a first name, making it upper case.
They can change names. Ask anyone who they have decided had a first name that was somehow inappropriate. But they won't change them just because you ask. Not even if you're willing to pay for it.
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Usagi Musashi
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04-24-2007 09:19
well your first name is a rl last name. Just for your information
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Elex Dusk
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04-24-2007 09:20
From: Colette Meiji you hear rumors that the Lindens can change your name. Yes, the Lindens can change names. In fact, if you ever detect someone on a scanner and they have an "unresolvable" key ID it's because a Linden changed the name of the avatar and its name now no longer resolves correctly under llKey2Name.
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Colette Meiji
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04-24-2007 09:21
I think they should charge $20 US to change name.
For anyone, whenever they want.
Theres a lot of people who reinvent themselves often after some major drama, as well as hate their name, whatever.
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Osprey Therian
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04-24-2007 09:47
But then the stalker would just change his name, wouldn't he?
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Colette Meiji
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04-24-2007 09:53
From: Osprey Therian But then the stalker would just change his name, wouldn't he? whats the big difference with that or just getting another account to stalk with?
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Osprey Therian
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04-24-2007 13:13
I suppose that's right.
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Itazura Radio
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04-24-2007 13:42
The problem is it plays hell with the ownership and permissions systems too. When John Doe changes his name to John Smith all of John Smith's things in world are still listed as belonging to John Doe, who no longer exists.
It sounds like it'd be simple enough to do and they just don't do it because they don't want to but it's actually more complicated than that and would open up a whole new can of worms. It's not worth the amount of headaches it causes just for the sake of residents who get a little fickle.
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Brenda Connolly
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04-24-2007 13:54
From: Itazura Radio The problem is it plays hell with the ownership and permissions systems too. When John Doe changes his name to John Smith all of John Smith's things in world are still listed as belonging to John Doe, who no longer exists.
It sounds like it'd be simple enough to do and they just don't do it because they don't want to but it's actually more complicated than that and would open up a whole new can of worms. It's not worth the amount of headaches it causes just for the sake of residents who get a little fickle. That's probably the best reason yet. Excellent explanation.
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Faybot Foxley
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04-24-2007 14:21
From: Elex Dusk Yes, the Lindens can change names. In fact, if you ever detect someone on a scanner and they have an "unresolvable" key ID it's because a Linden changed the name of the avatar and its name now no longer resolves correctly under llKey2Name. From: Itazura Radio The problem is it plays hell with the ownership and permissions systems too. When John Doe changes his name to John Smith all of John Smith's things in world are still listed as belonging to John Doe, who no longer exists.
It sounds like it'd be simple enough to do and they just don't do it because they don't want to but it's actually more complicated than that and would open up a whole new can of worms. It's not worth the amount of headaches it causes just for the sake of residents who get a little fickle. Well, I couldn't resist this thread. On April 1st, 2007 my name was changed from Gaybot Foxley to Faybot Foxley. I was given no notification via email and had to figure out what my name was changed to all by myself. A good friend of mine, who is proficient in LSL, told me that my key has remained exactly the same. An interesting thing about the permissions system and objects I had created as Gaybot is that when I right click on something in my inventory (that I created as Gaybot) it says there is no creator or "creator unknown". It says the owner is Faybot. When I rez this same object, it says that the creator and the owner is Faybot. Weird. One month and a dozen emails later, and not one reponse has been sent to me about this. I'm pretty much over it now and have changed my email to match my new SL screen name. lol 
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Colette Meiji
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04-24-2007 14:23
From: Faybot Foxley Well, I couldn't resist this thread. On April 1st, 2007 my name was changed from Gaybot Foxley to Faybot Foxley. I was given no notification via email and had to figure out what my name was changed to all by myself. A good friend of mine, who is proficient in LSL, told me that my key has remained exactly the same. An interesting thing about the permissions system and objects I had created as Gaybot is that when I right click on something in my inventory (that I created as Gaybot) it says there is no creator or "creator unknown". It says the owner is Faybot. When I rez this same object, it says that the creator and the owner is Faybot. Weird. One month and a dozen emails later, and not one reponse has been sent to me about this. I'm pretty much over it now and have changed my email to match my new SL screen name. lol 
so they never woudl admit why they changed your name .. Gee youd think that was the least they could do.
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Brenda Connolly
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04-24-2007 14:28
From: Colette Meiji so they never woudl admit why they changed your name ..
Gee youd think that was the least they could do. And never let it be said they didn't do the least they could do.
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Tegg Bode
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04-24-2007 15:32
Well I would be happy if we could just change our displayed name? how the hell are you supposed to become Batman with Bruce Wayne still stuck over your head? And who wants to be addressed as Paul345 becausel Paul is no longer available with any last name? Perhaps if your creation name stuck still in your profile but your title bar was changeable? $20 bucks to change each time, no thanks I'll create 20 alts instead for free 
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Brenda Connolly
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04-24-2007 16:01
For some people, they should be stuck with thier names. Take a couple of minutes and think up something halfway decent, will you? 
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Seth Ock
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04-25-2007 08:15
From: Itazura Radio The problem is it plays hell with the ownership and permissions systems too. When John Doe changes his name to John Smith all of John Smith's things in world are still listed as belonging to John Doe, who no longer exists.
It sounds like it'd be simple enough to do and they just don't do it because they don't want to but it's actually more complicated than that and would open up a whole new can of worms. It's not worth the amount of headaches it causes just for the sake of residents who get a little fickle. Oh ick. I'm amazed that things are done this way. A proper indexing system in their database would assign us all a unique userid ... a string of numbers not unlike the UUID already in place for objects. A table of accepted names could then be generated with the userid as an index. From that point on, all references to an avatar would be handled internally by the userid, with the actual avatar name displayed after looking it up. With this system, changing one's name would mean updating a single entry in a single table. I'd still charge to change names to discourage abuse, but it would be a simple thing. Instead, it sounds like the userid *is* the avatar name. Tegg Bode brings up an interesting case with Batman and Bruce Wayne. It would be nice if there was a system in place that would permit masked identities. Perhaps if all of one's alts supported a shared inventory that could be switched on the fly. If you're not careful when in public, you risk unmasking yourself and spoiling your secret identity. Shared alts could be charged on a tier-based system like land, with the first one free for premium users and each additional alt adds to your monthly fee ... discouraging abuse. Mind you, I'd rather see many other bugs fixed and features added first, but I'd love to be able to wear a mask.
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Ylikone Obscure
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04-25-2007 10:14
From: Seth Ock Instead, it sounds like the userid *is* the avatar name.
I think you've hit the nail on the head there! It is unbelievable that this is the case, but apparently it is so. Actually, I find it hard to believe they would be that stupid with the coding... my guess is that it IS a simple feature to implement because they DO have avatar names tied to a unique id and they are just too lazy to implement that feature. It's more important for them to focus on useless things like Voice... anything to bring in more newbies to pay for memberships and pay teir.
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Usagi Musashi
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04-25-2007 20:17
From: Faybot Foxley Well, I couldn't resist this thread. On April 1st, 2007 my name was changed from Gaybot Foxley to Faybot Foxley. I special linden rings a bell with this one. and the word "GAY" applies to him..... I sorry to here people don`t understand "GAY" is not always means homosexual......But to mean happy. OMG even myselve when i learned english "GAY meant Happy"....... With all the issues going around LLABS they pick on your name? Shows you that they have nothing better to do then causes problems themselves. 
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Tegg Bode
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04-26-2007 01:34
From: Seth Ock Tegg Bode brings up an interesting case with Batman and Bruce Wayne. It would be nice if there was a system in place that would permit masked identities. Perhaps if all of one's alts supported a shared inventory that could be switched on the fly. If you're not careful when in public, you risk unmasking yourself and spoiling your secret identity. Shared alts could be charged on a tier-based system like land, with the first one free for premium users and each additional alt adds to your monthly fee ... discouraging abuse. Mind you, I'd rather see many other bugs fixed and features added first, but I'd love to be able to wear a mask.
I played another game where masks were allowed and it was damn fun changing costume and walking back into a room full of people to here what they say about you and the intrigue of trying to workout who was behind the mask, people couldn't change bodyshape, but hair would be recolored and as you interacted with people there was a percentage known score that kept climbing so eventually you would see a masked figure and realise you know them 50% perhaps at 100% their identity would be revealed to you? We could still have our real name on our profiles and objects, and just trust other roleplayers not to look of course, so that way griefrs couldn't hide behind masked names either.
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