Can you run a Skin shop in a PG sim?

I have just purchased a full sim and I am about to start selling Male and Female skins there. I have noticed other skin shops that show "everything" and they are in PG sims. Is this ok, are there any solid rules on this sort of thing? Can i make my sim PG and sell skins in it without breaking rules and without covering up the private areas?

No, it's not okay. No nudity in PG sims, period. People who do this are tempting fate.

You could probably get away with pasties and g-strings, if you wanted to push the limits - but I'd recommend coverage equivalent to a swimsuit that could be worn to a public beach in the U.S. I think that's in line with the official guidelines.

Coverage on a public beach in the US isn't always a whole lot of coverage these days

I'd cover up the private parts of the skins, either way, though.

You can't wear a g-string at a public beach over there? And/or go topless? Wow. Sometimes I really wonder why some Arab countries consider USA morals to be loose, sexual and generally evil. The morals in several European countries (for instance Holland and France) are so much more permissive of things like public 'nudity'.

You can have a skin shop, but you need to cover up the parts that would make it mature. I see this all over Sl.

I seen some very stupid people selling skins that were naked in PG sims.........

Yet many are much less permissive for things like ... Free Speech

Actually you can go topless in the United states as long as you dont display "lewd behavior". Not many women do of course. This was actually a supreme court decisions I believe over 10 years ago.

As for beaches they are not the same - The community that runs the beach sets the clothing restrictions. Basically like a park service. I dont think Ive ever seen a beach that wasnt under some Municiple or State Park juristiction.

In the United states the system wasnt intended for the Federal Government to control every tiny aspect of peoples lives, The states are supposed to have some powers and localities some (like controlling their local public peach)

Topless and Nude beaches would be private beaches. Just like Nudist Colonies/ Clubs are private.

Im pretty sure the Arab fundamentalists main worry with the United States is they want US troops out of the Mid East and to stop supporting Isreal. That way they can overthrow Saudi Arabia, Afghanistan and Iraq and drive Isareal into the sea.

The critiques on moral grounds (true or not) are just propaganda sent down from the leadership.

At the moment i'm not selling any skins in PG sims.. Though back a few weeks ago when an update caused Mature parcels not to be listed in search by default.. i changed my sim (which means i also changed my skin shop) to PG. The avatars on the adverts for the skins in my store have full nudity(though its not actually real nudity, because i painted those parts myself, they never were part of a real human) Would a hand painted skin fall into a PG category? There is only one avatar in each picture, theyre posing, but theyre not in sexual poses.

Of course everyone has a different opinion as to if nudity should be censored.. but my opinion would be that a naked body is not a 'Mature only' thing. You can make a body do something that would need censoring.. but the body itself is not something needing to be censored.

I set my land back to Mature when the search feature got updated because i wanted to put the Hip Hop stream i like back on there, which is certainly not PG ..not because i was worried about Linden Lab complaining or giving me a warning or ban for selling skins in my PG sim(not sure if they even find time to take action against anyone lately).

I didn't think it was 'stupid' to sell them in a PG sim, at worst you get a warning and told not to..? Then you will at least know know for sure someone was offended enough to take action.
I'm also hoping that it won't be a requirement to become verified as adult and adult flagged land just to sell skins without editing out the pics..

Considering that skins don't include genitals, save for a splash of hair "down there", I wouldn't consider a non sexual box photo to be "adult content". As for boobs, well, face it, a discriminate female shopper is certainly going to want to see the uh.. forgive me for not remembering the correct anatomical name for nipples.. If a resident goes out of their way to go -inside- of a skin shop, wait for all the textures to download and render, then look at them, and AR them as adult content in PG land, they have WAY too much time on their hands, and they're just being silly.

Yes many people do have their owb thoughts about nudity and censorship. But as long as the parts are covered in a thing and top as some others have said there is no problem selling skinds in a PG area. Goos luck you may you all work out for your business if you so choice

hehe - you obviously dont shop for female skins

Our skins do , in most cases, include painted on (or photoreal) genitals - as well. And thats something you look at carefully before buying.

In that case I take back everything I said before. Off to Matureland with the lot of yas!

I actualy got kicked out of a female skin shop once I was shopping for a skin for modelling and making female clothing .. needless to say I was uh speachless. Since avatars really can be either gender it still perplexes me to this day. Am I the only male avatar to need/want to buy a female skin and shape?

A shop threw out a potential customer?? What's the world coming to?

Besides your reason, a man might be in a female skin shop to look for a gift for a special friend. (It would have to be a pretty special friend, admittedly, to be buying such an intimate gift... maybe an SL partner, or somebody you already knew from RL. Or your alt Or he might want one for a costume event. Or be considering a sex change.

The shop owner may have a right to kick you out (that question has already been discussed to death in other threads), but I think it was unjustified. So long as they are polite and respectful, avatars of any size, shape, race, gender, or species will always be welcome in any shop I run. Oh yes, mechs are welcome too.

No, I don't sell skins. Yet.

Couldn't the OP have a PG sim, but set the skin shop parcel to mature? Would that cover the rules or is that not right?

Give it some style and put a fig leaf where appropriate.

Wonder why she threw you out? Thought you were being a "perv" for looking at the womens nude skins?

Kind of weird.

Stupid. What if he was shopping for his gf? I shopped plenty for male skins for a friend. If I had been thrown out, they would never have gotten his business. Dumb...

What gives you that idea? Are we talking about the same countries? Because I live in Holland and regularly visit France and in neither country are people being persecuted for voicing opinions. There are reasons why I might actually prefer living in the USA (the thought of moving there has actually crossed my mind on more than one occasion) but not being allowed to speak my mind in public is definitely not one of them.

I was more refering to the latest accusations on the forums.

The latest example of this Ageplay issue - the US has been painted as too permissive. The reason of course its allowed is becuase of US Free Speech protections.

Now in the course of a couple weeks the US is being described as too Represive on nudity becuase were too sexually repressive .

YET SOMEHOW - the US is too Permissive due to Free Speech on another sexual issue.


I was not refering to the ability not to speak your mind.

In the US Free Speech has broader implications than just people's opinions.

As well as back here. And I can't speak for France, but ageplay is legal in Holland. As it should be.

I know this because I was active in the public debate about ageplay in SL myself when it was a hot topic here. Contrary to what it might look like from across the pond, one Dutch socialist politician unable to see the difference between real children and grown-ups playing make-believe does not make Holland a country 'less-permissive' of free speech. On the contrary. That politician has every right to complain about ageplay, just like I have every right to call her a dumb little twit who doesn't know what she is talking about.

I wasn't calling the USA 'too repressive' by the way. I was just surprised. In many countries the USA is seen as some sort of symbol of indecency, while there is a lot more 'indecency' going on in some other countries (which I happily participate in by the way). Isn't that ironic?

But to get back to skin shops: in PG areas, I think a thong and pasties are the way to go. As long as you cover the 'naughty bits' (genital area, and to be safe also nipples) you should be okay.