A day as island owner...

No, not another thread...but the another thread?



being nice and all is good and keeps ppl happy and builds some great relationships but some times u just have some wich clearly does what he wants with not much regard to others.

less then 36 hours ago, some one decided to move into my island, while he was looking around he was anything but quiet and i just kept being nice and offer modified plots as he was determent to move in.

late night he moved in and the moment of accepting the land built a giant dick to "dick" his friend around, as a joke fine, made a 100m pit for him to fall in to keep my promise and show i`m not kidding.
next day my best friend and manager found him on the beatch with his gf engaging in sex animations, sent me a pic and gave him a warning even tho he had clothes on and no "attachements" but still in plain view, wich was worse as some one else was looking for land and might have been turned off.

got a nice msg and half a day rant of how he pissed off my friend and manager so bad he doesn`t wants to hear a signle word out of him or he`ll snap his neck, no kidding on this...

hour after the warning he decided to read the covi again and try to argue the warning again, no sex in pub view, land in the center of the island = pub view, clothing or not

so all is fine after for an couple of hours and 1 of the residents shows her friends a nice plot behind her house and asks me to come to answer some questions when they had some, almost at the end and he drops in and interfears with the sale (thankfully all financial info handled allready).

so i leave them to be and he goes do what ever he does with the new residents,
after they left, he drops in at my place while i was stamping an house out of the ground so i could get back my real work and give him a short msg that i was busy and didn`t like him dropping into sales.

at this stage he has been here for less then 24... wich makes my friend, another resident and me be abit worried
time for the final test, leave him an IM applologising AGAIN of being busy and have crapload to do then chitchat like best friends(even asked how many prims where in a coral pack in a shop wich is displayed on a box(told him to look and closed IM))



1. he just moved in so brag bout being helpfull?
2. the resident who invited her friends(the buyers) allready bought it and have been helping her with everything she doesn`t know(even alpha texture flicker) so a good word is done nway
3. manipulating me (wtf)

day goes on abit more quietly and get the house half done in a rush and get some sleep (yay)
wake up, get some coffee and return to work on the house, i see him start building a skybox platform just abouve his hut (+-20m) so gets my attention right away (hard to miss a 50x20 plank hoovering that low) and he makes a box out of it and leaves it at 108m hight and dissapears for hours
so a resident in the corner logson and wates a giant box and 10x10 flat prims at 10m intervals hoovering outside, she wasn`t happy and didn`t stay long(made my blood boil even more)
my friend logson and with the crap of the previous day, by the time i realized we were half a day further as we both had steam coming out of my ears at wich i set a time of 3am to get the crap out of everyone`s view
he confirmed reading the covi twice, as mentioned previously, and that piece of crap is still in plain view just abit higher.

so here u have it folks, for once another side of the story of why ppl do get evicted,
he has broken all the damn rules set in the covi and still didn`t get kicked untill residents would back me up with the potential rep loss wich this will cause as this guy is manipulative as hell
with the sex animation crap, the person who was looking at the land, was interrested in buying a 2048sqm plot wich he discarded and moved on and got land some where else

didn`t expect to actually do this anytime time soon, but it`s either him or every one else, didn`t like it 1 tiny bit tbh and yes, returned his $12 tier and L$15,000 - L$5,000 to be
devided between the 6 residents (excluding me and manager) for the crap they had to endure

not bad for an 48h time span right? ....
lesson: being nice payes, just not the bills, neither being firm...

A day out of the life of an island owner, ffs...gimme the goddamn mainland PLEASSEEEEeeeee....

You waited about 36 hours too long. I would have warned him after the "Dick" and Booted him after the On the beach Sex (If that was against my lands Rules)

Make sure they Read the covanant BEFORE they take up residency.

Angel.

Maybe, to be fair to the op I think she handled it well, she gave the person a chance, he was a new tenant, some tenants don't know the rules or don't read them and yes it's probably best to nip it in the bud early but you don't want a rep for being someone who evicts tenants, that sort of mud sticks way too easy.

I would of booted him after the sex thing, telling him the next time he moves in anywhere he should Learn to read.

thx

perhaps i should or have done it like now
the issue is as cairan said, u don`t want to kick ppl out right away, but u don`t want to have a rep of kicking ppl for nothing

this issue left me no choice with the other tenants, either him or them and they supported it,
unlike all the other stories out there, returning his money (specially after just 2 days) was the only decent thing to do aswell

also this post was made abit out of preemptive self defense incase it went public initiated by him and not me, as with the other stories aswell, ppl tend to lean to the evicted as the landlord makes no reply and easy to find out where it was

must say that this has been the first time i had to do this and tweak the rules abit to make a few lessons clear
a friend of him contacted me about his items wich weren`t returned as he forgot about the non group stacked items and no hard feelings, decided to return him the 5000 aswell and give the others a small compensation from my own pocket for some peace of mind, it was over and no sort of revenge taken (better not anytime soon or i get really pissed and make the devil look like an angel)

really no fun to do this, sucks as much as anything can suck ingame

Should have kept that prime mainland Drakul property . <grins>
<-- new island owner as well less then 2 weeks ( the work never ends)
good luck

lmao

butthen i wouldn`t have met some great ppl i met now

Never had an experience that bad, or even close to, in a year and a half!

Wow.

Your very kind to have refunded anything.

After multipe warning and multiple violations of the covenant (or even your rental notecard), is reason enough to have ejected with NO refund. It is well within your rights.

A partial refund was what i would have done myself, you were just a little more generous than i would have been.

I can just read the headlines now "I was kicked out of my rented landFOR NO REASON AT ALL, and she robbed me of 5000 lindens!!!!!"

You were right to boot him as he wasnt suitable for your land.

I am glad to decided to return the full amount of money in the end. It shows you are a good trustworthy person which is extreemly important for people who buy land on islands.

(Truthfully I wouldnt recommend anyone to buy on an island where the owner doesnt return land purchase money if things go sour since that's not a true purchase)

I'd gently disagree, for this reason:

Basically when someone wants a refund, they *cause* things to go sour, usually affecting just about everyone who lives there.

Then I suggest they should be allowed to sell it back as part of the agreement. That way they wont need to cause things to go sour to be able to get out.

I also applaud your decision to refund the money even if that was not required. To me that shows you are a trustworthy person who wants to do the right thing, and those types of actions very often benefit you much more in the long run.

Maybe, Desmond, but one of my friends just yesterday told me she was homeless again, after her home sim was sold/transfered. She had paid money for her plot of land.

"Truthfully I wouldnt recommend anyone to buy on an island"

You can stop there, that pretty much covers it.

If someone is ripped off cold, then sure, they better get their money back. No arguments there!

But if land *is* delivered and the tenant simply gets bored, that's different.

There's no refund on the mainland. You have to find your own buyer, or simply abandon and lose everything.

I have the same policy with respect to rental. Find someone to assume the rental for monies paid to you, or abandon the lot.

thx all for the kind words

island land is a debate that will never stop i guess as every one and their dog is doing it and while more ppl do it, more rotten apples get mingled between us who try to do our best efforts to help with anything

refunding the full amount of money was mainly as it was only 2 days, 20 days and it would have been a different story
after the guy got booted, 1 of the residents moved to a 8192sqm plot from a 4096 so bit more confidence that i did the right thing
trust worthy rep is sure something nice to have along with active forum history for not being a landlord alt to hide under a diff av when feeling like it

to not buying land on an island i agree and disagree, talk to the ppl who live there to know who the landlord is from their point of view, but if u find a good place with a good landlord it will be a good expirience

on the mainland u allways have it directly under ur control but the chance of a neighbour devalueing(sp) ur land are very high, also the increase of LL sim aren`t doing any good for land prices while island land is pritty much set

it`s for every one to decide for their own in the end tho

i dont own an island ... nor do i rent on one and certainly commend your patience and very good customer service.

I hear the Mainland Island argument all the time and yes there are arguments for both but sometimes I think that renting out islands for residential use CAN be a nightmare. A lot of users forget that you are NOT LL.... if you wanted you could boot them out without a penny should you be so incliined and they would have a single argument.

All you ask is to be courteous to your neighbours ... and some cant even do that.. so it seems that islands have scurge on them too.

Glad you sorted it out well and it shows credit to your business ethos

Marty

well to add my SL tuppence worth.....

I ended up buying an island after some considerable time (or it seemed like it!) owning mainland, with the specific intention of having space to create a home for myself and my partner (- eh and she did all the work! lol) and providing homes/spaces for others to rent. We decided on a theme (English village around 1900) and took it from there. So far it has worked so well that I've just ordered up a second island! But I do have to say that I think part of it has been the way my partner and I help and support our residents, and (I like to think) treat them honourably... certainly I would never boot someone without a refund unless for the most dire behaviour... to me that's akin to stealing their money. I'm not in SL to make a living or a profit... I'm here to have a good time and interact in a positive way with as many of SL's people as I can.

To me the benefits of island living and owning far outweigh the drawbacks.

Inc

nice, ur post almost passed till u had to show off some arrogance and advertise in other ppl`s threads


u are as proven abouve, blatant advertisment spamming and thread hijacking, u are in it for the money, good interaction? doubt it

this is the reason i don`t advertise and let the residents tell their friends and reffer them to me unlike the ignorance u ppl have instead of making myself look desperate lil git

if u can`t leave that shit out of ppl`s threads, why bother posting at all... wonder how long it will take befor we see a stroy bout u up here...

i don`t have a 2nd island but sure hope to get some, with not doing crap like u do, i still have some empty plots left but i trully do it for fun and hope to make a living from a real product in development instead of a wannabe continent owner

go spam ur shit else where

Fair enough, Alicia, edited it out. I didn't have that specific intention, but yes I accept it could be seen like that.

I just realised it was your original thread too, so apologies for that.

could be??? it was...


get out of bed with a good mood every day, it`s ppl like u who piss others off and try to blame them while trying to look innocent...

It should just be a straight rental agreement, in my opinion. Using the buy mechanism to benefit tenants to manage their land is great (sell to avatar X for 0, no resell allowed), but when it comes to paying someone "market value" for a plot of land there, I don't see the sense in that.